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Re: [APO-L] Phrases from Rituals concern
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Michael Gallagher)
Sat Nov 15 14:36:57 2003
Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2003 14:36:33 -0500
Reply-To: Michael Gallagher <famtree@UDel.Edu>
From: Michael Gallagher <famtree@UDel.Edu>
To: APO-L@LISTSERV.IUPUI.EDU
I've been in the OA for over 2 years now (yeah, I know...I was elected my
senior year of high school & I am now in my 3rd year of college). Obviously
(for most people anyway :) ) I haven't been heavily involved due to college,
but I did go to a sectional & several weekends (at least 1 a year). The
NOAC & NE4C themes so far weren't from the rituals that I could tell, but
related to our purposes. The OA has only been the BSA's NHS since '98.
LFS,
Michael Gallagher
Zeta Sigma (U of DE) Historian
Brotherhood Member, Nentego Lodge #20 (Del-Mar-Va Council)
----- Original Message -----
From: "Justin Martin" <arvid@soltec.net>
To: <APO-L@LISTSERV.IUPUI.EDU>
Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2003 12:13 PM
Subject: Re: [APO-L] Phrases from Rituals concern
> I thought about this a bit, and I disagree. Back in the Days of Yore, I
was
> heavily involved in the Order of the Arrow (the BSA's National Honor
> Society), and every section conclave or NOAC I went to all had themes that
> were one line of of either the Pre-Ordeal or Ordeal ceremonies. Taken out
> of their context, they mean nothing to an outsider, but to an OA Brother,
> they know the significance behind the words.
>
> Our rituals have a lot of meaning behind them, and I think that to take
one
> line from them, and use it as a building block for a conference would be a
> great motivational thing, as well as stress that people do take the
meaning
> behind the rituals seriously. However, if whole paragraphs of the Ritual
> start appearing on webpages, then I would take issue.
>
> LF&S,
>
> -Justin
>
> --
> Justin "Arvid" Martin |
> Section 50 Vice-Chair |
> Alpha Phi Omega |
> Nat'l Service Fraternity |
>
>
> On 11/14/03 11:28 AM, "Finder, Randolph J Mr NGB-ARNG"
> <Randolph.Finder@ngb.army.mil> wrote:
>
> > I've noticed on a couple of web sites phrases being used by brothers
that
> > only occur in the rituals. This sort of disturbs me. Any feelings?
> >
> > (For example if the Phrase "A Service Fraternity without Pink Elephants"
was
> > only used in the brotherhood ritual, and section 10 decided to use it as
> > their sectional conference theme or a chapter made "A Service Fraternity
> > without Pink Elephants" as the top and bottom text for the chapter web
page.
>
