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Re: [APO-L] -L format

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Peri Nelson)
Wed Nov 6 09:06:54 2002

Date:         Wed, 6 Nov 2002 09:06:51 -0500
Reply-To: Peri Nelson <pmnelson@BUFFALO.EDU>
From: Peri Nelson <pmnelson@BUFFALO.EDU>
To: APO-L@LISTSERV.IUPUI.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <F32001085EA6D211B61B00805F6FE69E04EAD605@exchsv2.ogsnet.ogs.state.ny.us>

In this case, I would agree with Packy.

This list is for all individuals, no matter what platform or mail program
that they use. The easiest way to hit every individual is to use plain
ASCII. For my mail, at present, I use either pine or Mulberry (the mail
client supported by U@Buffalo) and every message sent to APO-L comes
through clearly. Other mail that I receive with formatting (from other
lists) comes in garbled in pine and is not always legible in Mulberry.

Perhaps it is better to keep it at a status quo that everyone can read
and not tinker with things. I'm sure there would be more problems
when you try sending messages with formatting.

YiLFS,
Peri
S89 Communications Coordinator


On Wed, 6 Nov 2002, Vehlow, Richard wrote:

> With all due respect, this is almost 2003 and no longer 1988 (when APO-l was
> founded) or 1993 (when APOSOC was founded). How much longer before we can
> get with the times? If someone out of 500 subscribers still reads email on a
> vintage TRS-80 with 300 baud modem, do we still have to keep the list at
> their level, or can we encourage them to finally move up in technology
> level?
>
> I do a newsletter in Word format for my engineering society and send it out
> as an attachment to over 200 people- some at home. I have yet to receive one
> complaint that said newsletter can't be opened. I venture to say that a vast
> majority of APOSOC people here are capable to receive rich mail and
> attachments.
>
> In my chapter, years ago i was laughed at when I first suggested that
> chapter newsletters be sent by email. "Who would read their email" was the
> quote. Within about 3-4 years, email newsletters became the standard in our
> chapter, and are now widely done in most chapters at least. Likewise who
> knew anything about the web in APO 10 years ago? So, I think it's not a
> question of if we should upgrade but when.
>
> -REV
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Packy Anderson [mailto:packy@daffy.dardan.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2002 8:44 AM
> To: Vehlow, Richard
> Cc: APO-L@LISTSERV.IUPUI.EDU
> Subject: Re: [APO-L] -L format
>
>
> Vehlow, Richard [Richard.Vehlow@OGS.STATE.NY.US] writes:
> > Right now, APO-L is in text-only mode. In Digest at least, more and more
> > messages are becoming garbled due to web and word control characters and
> > rich text.
> >
> > I have been on a couple of recent email lists where the Digest sends the
> > messages out as separate email attachment files in the daily post. When
> > you open them, they appear as they should be. Attachments, font styles
> > and all.  Isn't it about time to go to this format for the list?
> >
> I'd vote a hearty NO.  It's bad enough that individual messages are coming
> through in HTML and RTF, but if the entire digest came through as a bunch
> of MIME attachments it would make this list nigh-impossible to read for
> people who aren't using Microsoft Outlook to read their email.  Personally,
> I am unable to read almost half the email messages on APO-L from work
> because of the way they are formatted; I have to save them and wait until I
> get home.
> -
> I'd say the better response would be to remind people that APO-L is a text
> only list, and that they should turn off Rich Text Formatting when they
> send messages to the list.  Yes, it means that they're not able to select
> the font size and color for their messages, but it does ensure that
> everyone on the list is able to read their messages.
> -
> YiLFS,
> -packy
>
> --
> Packy Anderson                                              packy@dardan.com
>
> Science Fiction Geek Pickup Line: "I'm the droid you're looking for."
>

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