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Re: 3 Novell Formatted ST41200NM's ( Follow up )

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (James W. Laferriere)
Sat Nov 23 01:27:49 1996

Date: 	Fri, 22 Nov 1996 23:29:27 -0800 (PST)
From: "James W. Laferriere" <babydr@nwrain.net>
To: "Stephen E. Shipman" <seshipma@wixer.syrinx.org>
cc: linux-scsi@vger.rutgers.edu
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.3.91.961121091926.4796K-100000@wixer.syrinx.org>


On Thu, 21 Nov 1996, Stephen E. Shipman wrote:
> On Thu, 21 Nov 1996, James W. Laferriere wrote:
> > 	Did some testing on a SunOs4.1.3u1 system using
> > 	the 'scsiinfo -F' command & found that somehow
> > 	the Novell format had 'LOCKED' the ending Cyl
> > 	at 1911 instead of 1931 & 20 Cyl's are gone.
> > 
> > 	Again, is there a tool available to recover the
> > 	lost Cylinders ?  I have done -some- rudimentary
> > 	searchs on 'scsi,tools' with the results being 
> > 	a list of tools which I am already aware & don't
> > 	seem to have the options I need for the above
> > 	problem.
> > 
	Stephen,

> 
> Have you tried a low-level formatting utility?  (Or, a 'destructive' 
> diagnostic -- one that will do write/read tests across the whole disk -- 
> a great way to vaporize things.  Compaq's diags have a 'destructive' 
> option if you have access to a Compaq system w/SCSI.)

	Yes I tried the formating utility that came with the NCR Card
	but to no avail. It formatted fine but still wouldn't see the
	20 missing cyl's.

	Under the sunos formatter I tried to format it with the 
	Cyl's 1929/2, Hds 15, S/T 71, all it got me was the (approx.)
	error ,
	'drive reports 1528.... blocks & is configurred for 1537.....'
	and lots of Sense code data from the format utilty.

	Speaking of low level formatters are there any in the PD ?
	Failing that the aft mentioned 'destructive test suite' ?
	
> Just a footnote, having dealt with SDI products, it's not the "Novell" 
> formatting, it's proprietary work that SDI does so that the drives will 
> work with SDIs controllers (BusLogic boards w/SDI proprietary BIOS) and 
> SDI drivers under NetWare -- it's supposed to yeild a performance 
> increase.  What all this 'proprietary' work does get you is a price 
> increase, and forces you to use SDI-prepared drives when you use an SDI 
> controller under NetWare (SDI controllers will work fine under 
> Linux with the BusLogic driver and not show any preference for whose 
> drives you use).

	Darn, don't that sound familiar.

			Tnx, JimL


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