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Re: Making duplex via LPROPT the default for new accounts

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Greg Hudson)
Sun May 11 23:46:30 2008

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I have no issue with it if Garry doesn't.

On Sun, 2008-05-11 at 22:16 -0400, Oliver Thomas wrote:
> Hi Greg,
> 
> Would it cause any problems to add the .generation file to the moira  
> copy of the prototype user dotfiles now? It seems like that would work  
> with your proposed change, and once the patch release goes out the  
> right thing would happen for the class of 2012. They are starting to  
> register en masse now, and if we wait with the whole change until the  
> end of May, I suspect we will miss the majority.
> 
> Alternatively I suppose we could place a .generation file into their  
> homedirs retroactively, but I'm a little more wary about doing that.  
> It's something we've traditionally steered away from.
> 
> Garry, if there are no objections, would it be possible for you to add  
> the .generation file with the value 1 into the moira copy of the  
> prototype user homedir contents?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Oliver
> 
> On May 7, 2008, at 8:52 AM, Greg Hudson wrote:
> 
> > Earliest we can do a patch release to get this out is late this month.
> > I'll plan to have one then.
> >
> > On Wed, 2008-05-07 at 08:48 -0400, Jonathan Reed wrote:
> >> This sounds fine with me.  Can this happen in time to catch the bulk
> >> of the class of '12 registrations?
> >>
> >> I assume we'd have to decide as a matter of policy that if you nuke
> >> your account, you don't get "your" .generation back, you get the most
> >> recent one, and are then subject to any changes that have happened
> >> since you registered for your account.  Which is fine, since it's no
> >> different than getting the latest .cshrc, I suppose.
> >>
> >> I can take care of updating our stock answers, and can send updated
> >> text to Heather Anne for the Dotfiles olh document, once we have a  
> >> date.
> >>
> >> -Jon
> >>
> >>
> >> On May 7, 2008, at 5:54 AM, ghudson@MIT.EDU wrote:
> >>
> >>>> I will discuss this at the release team meeting tomorrow and try to
> >>>> resolve it then.
> >>>
> >>> Scratch that plan; I'll discuss it in email.
> >>>
> >>> My idea is to introduce some kind of counter which increases every
> >>> time we change a preference for new accounts.  For lack of a better
> >>> term, I'll call this a generation.  Currently we are in generation  
> >>> 0,
> >>> which is marked by the lack of a .generation file.  The components  
> >>> of
> >>> this change are, then:
> >>>
> >>> * Install a .generation file containing "1" in /usr/prototype_user
> >>>   and configure Moira to install it for new accounts.
> >>>
> >>> * In the environment setup of the global cshrc and bashrc, read the
> >>>   epoch.  Set LPROPT to -Zduplex if the epoch is at least 1.
> >>>
> >>> To change this preference, users can just set LPROPT to another  
> >>> value
> >>> in their .environment files.
> >>
> >
> 
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