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From: Greg Hudson <ghudson@MIT.EDU> To: Oliver Thomas <othomas@mit.edu> Cc: release-team@mit.edu In-Reply-To: <5FAC12A1-9B08-4E30-9665-35025B5561CB@mit.edu> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sun, 11 May 2008 23:45:51 -0400 Message-Id: <1210563951.2048.34.camel@error-messages.mit.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.00 I have no issue with it if Garry doesn't. On Sun, 2008-05-11 at 22:16 -0400, Oliver Thomas wrote: > Hi Greg, > > Would it cause any problems to add the .generation file to the moira > copy of the prototype user dotfiles now? It seems like that would work > with your proposed change, and once the patch release goes out the > right thing would happen for the class of 2012. They are starting to > register en masse now, and if we wait with the whole change until the > end of May, I suspect we will miss the majority. > > Alternatively I suppose we could place a .generation file into their > homedirs retroactively, but I'm a little more wary about doing that. > It's something we've traditionally steered away from. > > Garry, if there are no objections, would it be possible for you to add > the .generation file with the value 1 into the moira copy of the > prototype user homedir contents? > > Thanks, > > Oliver > > On May 7, 2008, at 8:52 AM, Greg Hudson wrote: > > > Earliest we can do a patch release to get this out is late this month. > > I'll plan to have one then. > > > > On Wed, 2008-05-07 at 08:48 -0400, Jonathan Reed wrote: > >> This sounds fine with me. Can this happen in time to catch the bulk > >> of the class of '12 registrations? > >> > >> I assume we'd have to decide as a matter of policy that if you nuke > >> your account, you don't get "your" .generation back, you get the most > >> recent one, and are then subject to any changes that have happened > >> since you registered for your account. Which is fine, since it's no > >> different than getting the latest .cshrc, I suppose. > >> > >> I can take care of updating our stock answers, and can send updated > >> text to Heather Anne for the Dotfiles olh document, once we have a > >> date. > >> > >> -Jon > >> > >> > >> On May 7, 2008, at 5:54 AM, ghudson@MIT.EDU wrote: > >> > >>>> I will discuss this at the release team meeting tomorrow and try to > >>>> resolve it then. > >>> > >>> Scratch that plan; I'll discuss it in email. > >>> > >>> My idea is to introduce some kind of counter which increases every > >>> time we change a preference for new accounts. For lack of a better > >>> term, I'll call this a generation. Currently we are in generation > >>> 0, > >>> which is marked by the lack of a .generation file. The components > >>> of > >>> this change are, then: > >>> > >>> * Install a .generation file containing "1" in /usr/prototype_user > >>> and configure Moira to install it for new accounts. > >>> > >>> * In the environment setup of the global cshrc and bashrc, read the > >>> epoch. Set LPROPT to -Zduplex if the epoch is at least 1. > >>> > >>> To change this preference, users can just set LPROPT to another > >>> value > >>> in their .environment files. > >> > > > > ______ > Oliver Thomas > Information Services and Technology > Massachusetts Institute of Technology > > +1-617-253-9682 > +1-617-835-9682 /m > othomas@mit.edu > >
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