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Re: Emacs 19

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (dryfoo@MIT.EDU)
Fri Dec 15 10:52:55 1995

From: dryfoo@MIT.EDU
To: Dorothy Bowe <dot@MIT.EDU>
Cc: release-team@MIT.EDU
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Fri, 15 Dec 1995 10:25:06 EST."
             <9512151525.AA20774@pianoforte.MIT.EDU> 
Date: Fri, 15 Dec 1995 10:52:40 EST


First of all, I do understand _why_ we have to change, because of this
Solaris wedgie and all.

} Let's also get some facts out on the table so that we make a decision
} based on something other than feelings.  I've been using emacs 19 for a
} while now and have noticed a few changes.  I'm sure I could make a list
} of things in 15 minutes or so.

That would be a good document to see.  I have not been able to find a
single explanatory document about the _idea_ of Emacs19 _is_ -- what is
the concept behind all these changes, and how it's different, etc.

From _my_ point of view, not yours, the most stable and extensible tool
I have, one that I have used for hours every day for a decade, has been
mysteriously altered for no stated reason, in no discernable pattern.

} Gary, *what* breaks in your dotfiles?
} It's hard to fix unspecific problems, but I'm sure your files will be
} useful in testing.

A few things come up right away, and I don't know how many others won't
show up until I try to use them:

The line:

} (define-key TeX-mode-map                "\C-x\C-m" 'c-mode)

in this sequence:

} ;================================================================
} ;circle of major-modes on ^X-^M
} ;================================================================
} (global-set-key                         "\C-x\C-m" 'text-mode)
} (define-key text-mode-map               "\C-x\C-m" 'LaTeX-mode)
} (define-key TeX-mode-map                "\C-x\C-m" 'c-mode)
} (define-key c-mode-map                  "\C-x\C-m" 'emacs-lisp-mode)
} (define-key emacs-lisp-mode-map         "\C-x\C-m" 'lisp-interaction-mode)
} (define-key lisp-interaction-mode-map   "\C-x\C-m" 'fundamental-mode)

stops the file-loading with "Symbol's value as variable is void:
TeX-mode-map" -- is there no longer a tex mode?  Yes there is.  But no
tex-mode-map to accompany it?  This I can't figure out because...

...C-h i now gives the quite helpful "Can't find the info directory
node"

Also, "inhibit-local-variables" has been replaced by
"enable-local-variables", however that works.

Also, the whole "x-set-*" paradigm seems to have changed to something
else, for which the internal _help_ functions do not.

And that's just what I found yesterday afternoon.

Let's just admit that this _is_ a Big Change, (bigger, affecting more
people than Frame v3 vs V4, please) and get our explanatory ducks in a
row ahead of time.

-- Gary


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