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Re: [Tlhingan-hol] Words from "The Klingon Art of War"
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Felix Malmenbeck)
Sun Nov 16 08:44:28 2014
From: Felix Malmenbeck <felixm@kth.se>
To: Lieven <levinius@gmx.de>
Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2014 13:43:59 +0000
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chong!
Some comments:
ngengroQ
a mythical huge creature, ten times as large as Kortar; extinct now, amphib=
ic animal and may be up to one kellicam large. Some people believe the meas=
ure of one kellicam was named after the creature.
Speled with a space (ngeng roQ) in the book, I believe.
This could possibly be a fruit of Bing Translator; entering "sea creature" =
yields =ABngeng roQ=BB.
Or has this been added to the corpus since then?
qo=92 Sor
The big "Tree of the worlds", where the ancient klingon gods used to live i=
n.
Spelled as one word in the book, I believe.
qorvIt
Korvit, type of animal which farmers try to capture with korvit-traps. Thes=
e animals come at night and eat the fruits from the fields. They can destro=
y entire fields.
These animals are apparently native to Qo'noS, since Kahless knew of them.
However, they are also found on a subject world, Pheben III (in "Klingon Em=
pire: A Burning House").
I asked DeCandido about this, and he says he believes that they are the sam=
e species; native to Qo'noS, but somehow translsplanted to Pheben III.
=92a=92Setbur - Azetbur
I recently asked Marc about the *'atlhetbur* spelling which has been floati=
ng around.
He'd seen it, but thought it was strange.
Nice to have this settled!
16 nov 2014 kl. 10:44 skrev Lieven <levinius@gmx.de<mailto:levinius@gmx.de>=
>:
Marc Okrand was so kind to vet some of the words used in Keith RA DeCandido=
's book "The Klingon Art of War", which happens to be released in German at=
this year's qepHom.
Please note that all of the descriptions of the klingon words are written b=
y me, they are no canon descriptions. The true meaning of the words are exp=
lained in the Klingon Art of war, a book I can definitely recommend, also f=
or non-klingon speakers. Okrand only approved the klingon spellings:
batqul
B'aht Qul challenge, a klingon game
chuSwI=92
type of rodent that lives underground and makes annoying noise
Da=92ar
Dahar-Master
DIr rop
a specific skin disease from the time of Kahless (not a general term for di=
seases)
jInjoq
type of klingon bread
ngengroQ
a mythical huge creature, ten times as large as Kortar; extinct now, amphib=
ic animal and may be up to one kellicam large. Some people believe the meas=
ure of one kellicam was named after the creature.
qaDrav
a place in the first city, "place of challenges"
qeS=92a=92
"big advice" - the title of the book
qInlat
Quin'lat, the city where the story of Kahless happens, where a man stands o=
utside to wait for the storm to come and then dies.
qo=92 Sor
The big "Tree of the worlds", where the ancient klingon gods used to live i=
n.
qorvaq
Qorvaqk, a warrior without honor, who had killed somebody while sleeping. T=
hat=92s why klingons use this name as a synonym for "coward".
qorvIt
Korvit, type of animal which farmers try to capture with korvit-traps. Thes=
e animals come at night and eat the fruits from the fields. They can destro=
y entire fields.
Qa=92taq, mI=92lInnID puqloD
K'Ratak, son of M'Lind, an important and well known klingon author
QIngheb
an ancient weapon similar to the ghIntaq-spear. The handle is longer and th=
e blade has a bent horn at the end. Not used very often anymore.
tlha=92veq
Klavek, a klingon author who presumably wrote parts of the ancient paq'batl=
h
tlhIghaq
trigak, a forest animal, predatory animal with sharp teeth
tlhInja
Klin zha, a well known klingon game
tlhonghaD
klongat, an animal which attacks with surprise and gives its prey no chance=
to defend
wa=92jo=92=92a=92
Wa'Joh'a', the first klingon god
wam
type of klingon snake, hiding in the grass to attack
yobta=92 yupma=92
festival to celebrate the end of harvest
=92a=92Setbur
Azetbur, daughter of chancellor Gorkon.
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aka Quvar valer 'utlh
http://www.facebook.com/Klingonteacher
http://wiki.qepHom.de
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<div>chong!<br>
<br>
Some comments:</div>
<div><br>
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<div>
<blockquote type=3D"cite"><font color=3D"#000000"><span style=3D"background=
-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">ngengroQ<br>
a mythical huge creature, ten times as large as Kortar; extinct now, amphib=
ic animal and may be up to one kellicam large. Some people believe the meas=
ure of one kellicam was named after the creature.</span></font></blockquote=
>
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<div><br>
</div>
<div>Speled with a space (ngeng roQ) in the book, I believe.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>This could possibly be a fruit of Bing Translator; entering "sea =
creature" yields =ABngeng roQ=BB.</div>
<div>Or has this been added to the corpus since then?</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>
<blockquote type=3D"cite"><font color=3D"#000000"><span style=3D"background=
-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">qo=92 Sor<br>
The big "Tree of the worlds", where the ancient klingon gods used=
to live in.</span></font></blockquote>
<br>
</div>
<div>Spelled as one word in the book, I believe.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>
<blockquote type=3D"cite"><font color=3D"#000000"><span style=3D"background=
-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">qorvIt<br>
Korvit, type of animal which farmers try to capture with korvit-traps. Thes=
e animals come at night and eat the fruits from the fields. They can destro=
y entire fields.</span></font></blockquote>
<br>
</div>
<div>These animals are apparently native to Qo'noS, since Kahless knew of t=
hem.</div>
<div>However, they are also found on a subject world, Pheben III (in "=
Klingon Empire: A Burning House").</div>
<div>I asked DeCandido about this, and he says he believes that they are th=
e same species; native to Qo'noS, but somehow translsplanted to Pheben III.=
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>
<blockquote type=3D"cite"><font color=3D"#000000"><span style=3D"background=
-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">=92a=92Setbur - Azetbur</span></font></blo=
ckquote>
<br>
</div>
<div>I recently asked Marc about the *'atlhetbur* spelling which has been f=
loating around.</div>
<div>He'd seen it, but thought it was strange.</div>
<div>Nice to have this settled!</div>
<div><br>
16 nov 2014 kl. 10:44 skrev Lieven <<a href=3D"mailto:levinius@gmx.de">l=
evinius@gmx.de</a>>:<br>
<br>
</div>
<blockquote type=3D"cite">
<div><span>Marc Okrand was so kind to vet some of the words used in Keith R=
A DeCandido's book "The Klingon Art of War", which happens to be =
released in German at this year's qepHom.</span><br>
<span></span><br>
<span>Please note that all of the descriptions of the klingon words are wri=
tten by me, they are no canon descriptions. The true meaning of the words a=
re explained in the Klingon Art of war, a book I can definitely recommend, =
also for non-klingon speakers. Okrand
only approved the klingon spellings:</span><br>
<span></span><br>
<span>batqul</span><br>
<span>B'aht Qul challenge, a klingon game</span><br>
<span></span><br>
<span>chuSwI=92</span><br>
<span>type of rodent that lives underground and makes annoying noise</span>=
<br>
<span></span><br>
<span>Da=92ar</span><br>
<span>Dahar-Master</span><br>
<span></span><br>
<span>DIr rop</span><br>
<span>a specific skin disease from the time of Kahless (not a general term =
for diseases)</span><br>
<span></span><br>
<span>jInjoq</span><br>
<span>type of klingon bread</span><br>
<span></span><br>
<span>ngengroQ</span><br>
<span>a mythical huge creature, ten times as large as Kortar; extinct now, =
amphibic animal and may be up to one kellicam large. Some people believe th=
e measure of one kellicam was named after the creature.</span><br>
<span></span><br>
<span>qaDrav</span><br>
<span>a place in the first city, "place of challenges"</span><br>
<span></span><br>
<span>qeS=92a=92</span><br>
<span>"big advice" - the title of the book</span><br>
<span></span><br>
<span>qInlat</span><br>
<span>Quin'lat, the city where the story of Kahless happens, where a man st=
ands outside to wait for the storm to come and then dies.</span><br>
<span></span><br>
<span>qo=92 Sor</span><br>
<span>The big "Tree of the worlds", where the ancient klingon god=
s used to live in.</span><br>
<span></span><br>
<span>qorvaq</span><br>
<span>Qorvaqk, a warrior without honor, who had killed somebody while sleep=
ing. That=92s why klingons use this name as a synonym for "coward"=
;.</span><br>
<span></span><br>
<span>qorvIt</span><br>
<span>Korvit, type of animal which farmers try to capture with korvit-traps=
. These animals come at night and eat the fruits from the fields. They can =
destroy entire fields.</span><br>
<span></span><br>
<span>Qa=92taq, mI=92lInnID puqloD</span><br>
<span>K'Ratak, son of M'Lind, an important and well known klingon author</s=
pan><br>
<span></span><br>
<span>QIngheb</span><br>
<span>an ancient weapon similar to the ghIntaq-spear. The handle is longer =
and the blade has a bent horn at the end. Not used very often anymore.</spa=
n><br>
<span></span><br>
<span>tlha=92veq</span><br>
<span>Klavek, a klingon author who presumably wrote parts of the ancient pa=
q'batlh</span><br>
<span></span><br>
<span>tlhIghaq</span><br>
<span>trigak, a forest animal, predatory animal with sharp teeth</span><br>
<span></span><br>
<span>tlhInja</span><br>
<span>Klin zha, a well known klingon game</span><br>
<span></span><br>
<span>tlhonghaD</span><br>
<span>klongat, an animal which attacks with surprise and gives its prey no =
chance to defend</span><br>
<span></span><br>
<span>wa=92jo=92=92a=92</span><br>
<span>Wa'Joh'a', the first klingon god</span><br>
<span></span><br>
<span>wam</span><br>
<span>type of klingon snake, hiding in the grass to attack</span><br>
<span></span><br>
<span>yobta=92 yupma=92</span><br>
<span>festival to celebrate the end of harvest</span><br>
<span></span><br>
<span>=92a=92Setbur</span><br>
<span>Azetbur, daughter of chancellor Gorkon.</span><br>
<span></span><br>
<span>-------</span><br>
<span></span><br>
<span></span><br>
<span>-- </span><br>
<span>Lieven L. Litaer</span><br>
<span>aka Quvar valer 'utlh</span><br>
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k.com/Klingonteacher</a></span><br>
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>
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