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daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (De'vID)
Sun Nov 16 05:54:18 2014

Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2014 11:53:54 +0100
From: "De'vID" <de.vid.jonpin@gmail.com>
To: tlhIngan-Hol <tlhingan-hol@kli.org>
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The following are summaries of the geometry and card games information
revealed at the qepHom. (Everything in between [brackets] are Marc Okrand's
words, minus the bold formatting for Klingon words which was stripped when
I cut and pasted his mail from my phone.)

Geometry:

[ra=E2=80=99Duch puj =E2=80=9Cscalene triangle=E2=80=9D

tIQ in ra=E2=80=99Duch tIQ =E2=80=9Cequilateral triangle=E2=80=9D is used f=
or triangles only.  For
other polygons with equal sides/angles, the word HoS is used instead.  For
example:

vagh reD mey=E2=80=99 HoS   =E2=80=9Cregular pentagon=E2=80=9D

A letbaQ HoS =E2=80=9Cregular rectangle,=E2=80=9D of course, can also be ca=
lled a meyrI=E2=80=99
=E2=80=9Csquare.=E2=80=9D

While Don means =E2=80=9Cbe parallel,=E2=80=9D DonHa=E2=80=99 does not mean=
 =E2=80=9Cbe perpendicular.=E2=80=9D  It
means something like =E2=80=9Cbe misaligned.=E2=80=9D   The word for =E2=80=
=9Cbe perpendicular=E2=80=9D is
leD and it=E2=80=99s normally used with a plural subject: leD rav tlhoy=E2=
=80=99 je =E2=80=9Cthe
floor and the wall are perpendicular (to each other).=E2=80=9D

The word leD is also used to indicate a right angle: tajvaj leD.  Other
angles are:

tajvaj=E2=80=99a=E2=80=99 =E2=80=9Cobtuse angle=E2=80=9D

tajvajHom =E2=80=9Cacute angle=E2=80=9D

Traditionally (meaning long ago), angles were measured using a unit called
a law.  Using the decimal counting system, there were 243 lawmey in a gho
(=E2=80=9Ccircle=E2=80=9D), and each angle in a ra=E2=80=99Duch tIQ (=E2=80=
=9Cequilateral triangle=E2=80=9D) had
40.5 lawmey.

These days, Klingons reckon angles the way most of the galaxy does.  The
unit of measure (=E2=80=9Cdegree=E2=80=9D) is a lawrI=E2=80=99 (some people=
 say law chu=E2=80=99, though
that=E2=80=99s used less and less), and there are 360 lawrI=E2=80=99mey in =
a gho and 60
lawrI=E2=80=99mey in each angle of a ra=E2=80=99Duch tIQ.

The point on a star is a QIn.

The general word for =E2=80=9Cpolyhedron=E2=80=9D is yergh.]

Card games:

[Maltz said the card games he=E2=80=99d seen on Earth were all new to him a=
nd
didn=E2=80=99t match up with any Klingon games he was familiar with.  Never=
theless,
he=E2=80=99d become rather fond of one game, which he calls =E2=80=99urghwI=
=E2=80=99 (=E2=80=9Cone that
jabs or pokes=E2=80=9D), a name he made up based on what he thought the Fed=
eration
Standard name of the game was (but other Klingons probably would not
understand this word in this sense).

In this game and in others, Maltz noticed that cards were divided up into
four types he called Deghmey (=E2=80=9Csymbols=E2=80=9D).  He said he=E2=80=
=99d seen different
kinds of Deghmey on Terran cards, but he was most familiar with one set,
and he was able to find Klingon Deghmey equivalents for three of the four
Terran Deghmey in this set:

meyrI=E2=80=99mey (=E2=80=9Csquares=E2=80=9D) corresponds to diamonds. Malt=
z said he didn=E2=80=99t know
why they were called diamonds since they don=E2=80=99t look like sparkling =
gems.
They aren=E2=80=99t really squares, either, but they are quadrilaterals, an=
d that
seemed to be good enough to use the Klingon Degh equivalent.

pormey (=E2=80=9Cleaves=E2=80=9D) corresponds to hearts.  Maltz recognized =
the symbol on
the cards as being the same one he=E2=80=99d seen on valentine cards (a cus=
tom he
didn=E2=80=99t understand at all), but they didn=E2=80=99t look like tIqDu=
=E2=80=99 (=E2=80=9Chearts=E2=80=9D) to
him =E2=80=93 human or Klingon or otherwise.

Sormey (=E2=80=9Ctrees=E2=80=9D) corresponds to clubs.  Maltz didn=E2=80=99=
t know why the symbol
was called a club since it didn=E2=80=99t look to him like a jeqqIj (=E2=80=
=9Cbludgeon=E2=80=9D) or
a ghanjaq (=E2=80=9Cmace=E2=80=9D).  But it was, nevertheless, pretty close=
 to the Klingon
Sor.

Maltz also had no idea why the remaining symbol was termed a spade.  He
couldn=E2=80=99t figure out what it was, and it didn=E2=80=99t resemble any=
 Klingon Degh.
He just called a spade =E2=80=99eSpeD.]

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<p dir=3D"ltr"><br>
The following are summaries of the geometry and card games information reve=
aled at the qepHom. (Everything in between [brackets] are Marc Okrand&#39;s=
 words, minus the bold formatting for Klingon words which was stripped when=
 I cut and pasted his mail from my phone.)<br></p>
<p dir=3D"ltr">Geometry:</p>
<p dir=3D"ltr">[ra=E2=80=99Duch puj	=E2=80=9Cscalene triangle=E2=80=9D
</p>
<p dir=3D"ltr">tIQ in ra=E2=80=99Duch tIQ =E2=80=9Cequilateral triangle=E2=
=80=9D is used for triangles only.=C2=A0 For other polygons with equal side=
s/angles, the word HoS is used instead.=C2=A0 For example:
</p>
<p dir=3D"ltr">vagh reD mey=E2=80=99 HoS=C2=A0=C2=A0 =E2=80=9Cregular penta=
gon=E2=80=9D
</p>
<p dir=3D"ltr">A letbaQ HoS =E2=80=9Cregular rectangle,=E2=80=9D of course,=
 can also be called a meyrI=E2=80=99 =E2=80=9Csquare.=E2=80=9D
</p>
<p dir=3D"ltr">While Don means =E2=80=9Cbe parallel,=E2=80=9D DonHa=E2=80=
=99 does not mean =E2=80=9Cbe perpendicular.=E2=80=9D=C2=A0 It means someth=
ing like =E2=80=9Cbe misaligned.=E2=80=9D=C2=A0=C2=A0 The word for =E2=80=
=9Cbe perpendicular=E2=80=9D is leD and it=E2=80=99s normally used with a p=
lural subject: leD rav tlhoy=E2=80=99 je =E2=80=9Cthe floor and the wall ar=
e perpendicular (to each other).=E2=80=9D
</p>
<p dir=3D"ltr">The word leD is also used to indicate a right angle: tajvaj =
leD.=C2=A0 Other angles are:
</p>
<p dir=3D"ltr">tajvaj=E2=80=99a=E2=80=99 =E2=80=9Cobtuse angle=E2=80=9D=20
</p>
<p dir=3D"ltr">tajvajHom =E2=80=9Cacute angle=E2=80=9D
</p>
<p dir=3D"ltr">Traditionally (meaning long ago), angles were measured using=
 a unit called a law.=C2=A0 Using the decimal counting system, there were 2=
43 lawmey in a gho (=E2=80=9Ccircle=E2=80=9D), and each angle in a ra=E2=80=
=99Duch tIQ (=E2=80=9Cequilateral triangle=E2=80=9D) had 40.5 lawmey.
</p>
<p dir=3D"ltr">These days, Klingons reckon angles the way most of the galax=
y does.=C2=A0 The unit of measure (=E2=80=9Cdegree=E2=80=9D) is a lawrI=E2=
=80=99 (some people say law chu=E2=80=99, though that=E2=80=99s used less a=
nd less), and there are 360 lawrI=E2=80=99mey in a gho and 60 lawrI=E2=80=
=99mey in each angle of a ra=E2=80=99Duch tIQ.
</p>
<p dir=3D"ltr">The point on a star is a QIn.
</p>
<p dir=3D"ltr">The general word for =E2=80=9Cpolyhedron=E2=80=9D is yergh.]=
<br>

</p>
<p dir=3D"ltr">Card games:</p>
<p dir=3D"ltr">[Maltz said the card games he=E2=80=99d seen on Earth were a=
ll new to him and didn=E2=80=99t match up with any Klingon games he was fam=
iliar with.=C2=A0 Nevertheless, he=E2=80=99d become rather fond of one game=
, which he calls =E2=80=99urghwI=E2=80=99 (=E2=80=9Cone that jabs or pokes=
=E2=80=9D), a name he made up based on what he thought the Federation Stand=
ard name of the game was (but other Klingons probably would not understand =
this word in this sense).
</p>
<p dir=3D"ltr">In this game and in others, Maltz noticed that cards were di=
vided up into four types he called Deghmey (=E2=80=9Csymbols=E2=80=9D).=C2=
=A0 He said he=E2=80=99d seen different kinds of Deghmey on Terran cards, b=
ut he was most familiar with one set, and he was able to find Klingon Deghm=
ey equivalents for three of the four Terran Deghmey in this set:
<br>

<br>
meyrI=E2=80=99mey (=E2=80=9Csquares=E2=80=9D) corresponds to diamonds. Malt=
z said he didn=E2=80=99t know why they were called diamonds since they don=
=E2=80=99t look like sparkling gems.=C2=A0 They aren=E2=80=99t really squar=
es, either, but they are quadrilaterals, and that seemed to be good enough =
to use the Klingon Degh equivalent.
</p>
<p dir=3D"ltr">pormey (=E2=80=9Cleaves=E2=80=9D) corresponds to hearts.=C2=
=A0 Maltz recognized the symbol on the cards as being the same one he=E2=80=
=99d seen on valentine cards (a custom he didn=E2=80=99t understand at all)=
, but they didn=E2=80=99t look like tIqDu=E2=80=99 (=E2=80=9Chearts=E2=80=
=9D) to him =E2=80=93 human or Klingon or otherwise.
</p>
<p dir=3D"ltr">Sormey (=E2=80=9Ctrees=E2=80=9D) corresponds to clubs.=C2=A0=
 Maltz didn=E2=80=99t know why the symbol was called a club since it didn=
=E2=80=99t look to him like a jeqqIj (=E2=80=9Cbludgeon=E2=80=9D) or a ghan=
jaq (=E2=80=9Cmace=E2=80=9D).=C2=A0 But it was, nevertheless, pretty close =
to the Klingon Sor.
</p>
<p dir=3D"ltr">Maltz also had no idea why the remaining symbol was termed a=
 spade.=C2=A0 He couldn=E2=80=99t figure out what it was, and it didn=E2=80=
=99t resemble any Klingon Degh.=C2=A0 He just called a spade =E2=80=99eSpeD=
.]</p>
<p dir=3D"ltr">--<br>
De&#39;vID</p>

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