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Perl-Users Digest, Issue: 2774 Volume: 8
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Sun May 31 19:07:56 1998
Date: Sun, 31 May 98 16:00:28 -0700
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Perl-Users Digest Sun, 31 May 1998 Volume: 8 Number: 2774
Today's topics:
Re: 500 Internal Server Error (newbie) <stijf@hotmail.com>
Any kind of help is hard to find. (Michael Dori)
Re: Any kind of help is hard to find. (Nathan V. Patwardhan)
Re: Any kind of help is hard to find. (Rene Tschannen)
Re: DBD:Oracle installation woes <herrtk@erols.com>
download <support@derby-county.com>
Re: download (Michael Dori)
Re: download <REPLY_TO_damonbrent@earthlink.net>
Re: GPL documentation == unspeakable evil (Ray Auchterlounie)
Re: i need help...much!!!...anyone, please... <REPLY_TO_damonbrent@earthlink.net>
Re: Internet Relay Chat (Chris Nandor)
Re: Internet Relay Chat (Danny Aldham)
Re: location of archive (Jeremy D. Zawodny)
lockf question (Phil Taylor)
Perl + CGI (ryelah)
Re: Perl + CGI (Jeff Yoak)
Random permutations in Perl <hisao@physics.purdue.edu>
Re: Random permutations in Perl <ajohnson@gpu.srv.ualberta.ca>
Re: Random permutations in Perl (Michael Dori)
split behavious (Vincent W. Yin)
Re: split behavious (Bob Trieger)
Re: What does the FSF want? (was Re: GPL documentation (le Fanttme)
whois <support@derby-county.com>
Re: whois (Peter Gradwell)
Re: WIN32 (Jonathan Stowe)
Digest Administrivia (Last modified: 8 Mar 97) (Perl-Users-Digest Admin)
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Date: Sun, 31 May 1998 23:09:13 +0200
From: Andrew <stijf@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: 500 Internal Server Error (newbie)
Message-Id: <3571C6F9.6664@hotmail.com>
Chris Hamilton wrote:
>
> Tom Phoenix (rootbeer@teleport.com) wrote:
> : On 27 May 1998 dirt@xworld.com wrote:
> :
> : > Subject: 500 Internal Server Error (newbie)
> :
Try and upload your scipts to the server in ASCII mode NOT Binary!!!!
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Date: Sun, 31 May 1998 19:37:33 GMT
From: michaeldore@hotmail.com (Michael Dori)
Subject: Any kind of help is hard to find.
Message-Id: <3571ae8f.441519@news.nacs.net>
I have noticed that all the help that is proffered on most questions,
especially from new users, is usually returned in the form of "LOOK IT
UP". It is mostly assumed that we have not looked it up, or are too
lacking in intelligence to figure it out. I do not know if this
clique-ish attitude is intended or not, but it makes obtaining
information from experienced users a bit like pulling teeth with
tweesers from a wolverine that has not had his morning coffee. While
I understand it is not your job to answer questions, if you DEIGN to
reply to a post, it would be nice if it were with some useful
information, including where to locate the desired information.
perlman does not tell me a thing. I am new at PERL programming and I
occasionally need assistance from the community. Yet here, i am
continually reminded that professors in ivory towers become just like
their towers, lofty and ignored. I know that my opinion will probably
not garner me any assistance on the previous issue that i have posted
re: help on an algorith for a search engine for my site, but i hope
that i speak for more than one new person who has asked a question,
been snided at or given cryptic or sar-caustic remarks, and never
returned to this or any other group because of lack of support. I
thought that programmers stuck together, supported each other, and
helped when they could. Hmmm ... maybe i was wrong there ...
Mike Dori
michaeldore@hotmail.com
| Insurance is a co-payment for sanity.
| Thank g.o.d. for geeks.
| Reality is the dregs of dreams.
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Date: 31 May 1998 20:27:21 GMT
From: nvp@shore.net (Nathan V. Patwardhan)
Subject: Re: Any kind of help is hard to find.
Message-Id: <6ksef9$3qi@fridge.shore.net>
Michael Dori (michaeldore@hotmail.com) wrote:
: re: help on an algorith for a search engine for my site, but i hope
: that i speak for more than one new person who has asked a question,
: been snided at or given cryptic or sar-caustic remarks, and never
comp.lang.perl.misc is a WEB/CGI/HTML free zone if I'm correct, or at
least it tries to be. People tend to freak out when they see web
questions in this newsgroup, because of the *thousands* of web
postings that have appeared in this NG over the last 2-3 years.
Perl != CGI. Perl != WEB.
In a way, it's a shame that newcomers are greeted with hostilities,
but in another way it's a shame that Perl has been reduced to a "web
language" and a device to make a quick buck by non-programmers. It's
just a shame all the way around, I guess. :-(
And don't forget that community is a two-way street.
Your posting was very comedic, btw. It was entertaining to read.
--
Nate Patwardhan|root@localhost
"Fortunately, I prefer to believe that we're all really just trapped in a
P.K. Dick book laced with Lovecraft, and this awful Terror Out of Cambridge
shall by the light of day evaporate, leaving nothing but good intentions in
its stead." Tom Christiansen in <6k02ha$hq6$3@csnews.cs.colorado.edu>
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Date: Sun, 31 May 1998 21:57:05 GMT
From: r.tsch@octave2.ch (Rene Tschannen)
Subject: Re: Any kind of help is hard to find.
Message-Id: <3571c190.4316047@news.bluewin.ch>
On Sun, 31 May 1998 19:37:33 GMT, michaeldore@hotmail.com (Michael
Dori) wrote:
>[snip]
>I do not know if this
>clique-ish attitude is intended or not, but it makes obtaining
>information from experienced users a bit like pulling teeth with
>tweesers from a wolverine that has not had his morning coffee.
>
>I know that my opinion will probably
>not garner me any assistance on the previous issue that i have posted
>re: help on an algorith for a search engine for my site, but i hope
>that i speak for more than one new person who has asked a question,
>been snided at or given cryptic or sar-caustic remarks, and never
>returned to this or any other group because of lack of support.
I was looking at the posting you mentioned - as a newbie I can't give
you the desired assistance - but to me it seems you're expecting a
lot. Maybe you can present your problems in smaller chunks? If I scan
through the questions here, almost every posting is answered if there
is some code provided related to the tasks you want to master, or if
someone asks for help with a specific function.
And what's about the answer from Jonathan Stowe? I'm learning a lot
from hints like his - but afterwards I have to figure out things for
my own to put things together.
I just can't imagine that anyone here would assign a lack of
intelligence to you if I see the very detailed and structured style of
your posting. (This is not meant sarcastically!!!) Why can't you just
go ahead with your capabilities and use them to read the docs and
FAQ's - and then experiment with code?
>I thought that programmers stuck together, supported each other, and
>helped when they could. Hmmm ... maybe i was wrong there ...
>
I hope you're not wrong here, and that some programmers will stuck to
you and support you, but probably anyone won't give you the whole
piece at once ... did you find this in other news groups? For me this
news group is a place to get high quality knowledge - try this in an
M$ Access group as a comparison! (That's not a curse ... I don't wish
to anyone to have to work with M$ Access :-) ... )
The meaning of communication lies in the answers we get - kicking the
door of an ivory tower will probably not result in the answers you
wish - at least not very often, I think. Try another approach to make
them speak to you - you even don't need to love them or become one of
them for this to happen ... but consider, there is nobody around here
I suppose who is willing to let their teeth pulled out from you with
tweezers, even if you're offering gallons of coffee or harder stuff to
them in advance ... ;-)
Good luck!
Rene
--
Rene Tschannen - <r.tsch@octave2.ch>
Octave 2 Media - Web Publishing - Biel - Switzerland
Free Postcards: <http://www.octave2.ch/cards>
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Date: Sun, 31 May 1998 17:26:10 -0400
From: Todd or Karen Herr <herrtk@erols.com>
Subject: Re: DBD:Oracle installation woes
Message-Id: <3571CAF2.18310CC1@erols.com>
(I've got a better newsfeed at home, so I can respond here.)
I neglected to mention that my LD_LIBRARY_PATH is set to
what I believe to be proper ($ORACLE_HOME/lib, the location
of the library in question, is there), so I don't think that's
the trouble.
(I've seen several threads here and on the DBI list suggesting
that 0.48 is out; could that be a solution?)
Please reply, by e-mail, to todd_herr@sra.com, if possible.
Thanks!
Randy Kobes wrote:
>
> On Fri, 29 May 1998 21:58:07 GMT, todd_herr@sra.com wrote:
> >I've got the following:
> >Solaris 2.5.1
> >Oracle 7.3.3 - NFS mounted directory
> >perl 5.004_04
> >DBI 0.90
> >DBD::Oracle 0.47
> >Building of all goes well, no problems with make test or
> >make install of perl and DBI. However, with DBD, make test
> >fails on
> >
> >t/plsql.............ld.so.1: oracle: fatal: libsunmath.so.1:
> > can't open file: errno=2
>
> Hi,
> It might be that you have to set the LD_LIBRARY_PATH environment
> variable to include the lib/ directory where libsunmath.so.1 is
> before testing; eg, in bash,
> export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/path/to/oracle/lib:$LD_LIBRARY_PATH
--
Todd Herr
Webmaster, Alexandria VA Jaycees
http://www.alexjaycees.org
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Date: Sun, 31 May 1998 20:20:12 +0100
From: Andy Chantrill <support@derby-county.com>
Subject: download
Message-Id: <3571AD6B.647CE9BD@derby-county.com>
how do i download a perl script from a remote server without running it
and calling the html inside it therefor only saving the html to disk?
PLEASE HELP!!!
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Date: Sun, 31 May 1998 19:41:34 GMT
From: michaeldore@hotmail.com (Michael Dori)
Subject: Re: download
Message-Id: <3572b1e8.1298593@news.nacs.net>
On Sun, 31 May 1998 20:20:12 +0100, Andy Chantrill
<support@derby-county.com> wrote:
>how do i download a perl script from a remote server without running it
>and calling the html inside it therefor only saving the html to disk?
>PLEASE HELP!!!
hmmm ... you might try to create a blank web page on your computer and
create a link to the url ....... then , if using netscape navigator,
right click the link and try save as..... this may not work depending
on what the script is supposed to return ... it may also depend on if
it requires arguments ... hope it helps ...
Mike Dori
michaeldore@hotmail.com
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Date: Sun, 31 May 1998 17:34:01 -0400
From: "brent verner" <REPLY_TO_damonbrent@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: download
Message-Id: <6ksi74$460$1@argentina.it.earthlink.net>
>>how do i download a perl script from a remote server without running it
>>and calling the html inside it therefor only saving the html to disk?
>>PLEASE HELP!!!
>
>
>hmmm ... you might try to create a blank web page on your computer and
>create a link to the url ....... then , if using netscape navigator,
>right click the link and try save as..... this may not work depending
>on what the script is supposed to return ... it may also depend on if
>it requires arguments ... hope it helps ...
>
no, no, no ...
a CGI script that is interpreted, i.e, puts out HTML to a browser lives in a
cgi-bin
that to my knowledge can't be accessed to transfer/download the file...the
http protocol
will call any script in the cgi-bin (or wrapper, or however the
interpreter's configuration is setup) to be 'executed'. the only way to get
a script is to ftp into the folder where the CGI lives and download it that
way...the cgi-bin is not accessible by anon-ftp, so you'll need a
user/password.
for better luck, dig around sites like http://cgi-resources.com or
http://www.extropia.com and see if you can find something like what you are
trying to 'download'
good luck!!
brent
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Date: 31 May 1998 21:56:41 +0100
From: rda@kythera.demon.co.uk (Ray Auchterlounie)
Subject: Re: GPL documentation == unspeakable evil
Message-Id: <6ksg69$qfn@kythera.demon.co.uk>
David Kastrup <dak@mailhost.neuroinformatik.ruhr-uni-bochum.de> wrote:
[...]
>That's ok with the FSF. You will find in other cases as well that the
>FSF is perfectly willing to use and recommend other forms of free
>software meeting certain requirements, mostly free redistribution, and
>freedom to modification (clauses like "you must insert prominent
The FSF seem happy to do without with freedom of modification when it
suits them, it does _not_ apply to all the software the FSF has chosen
for the GNU system (something which has got some Linux distributions
in trouble with the authors in the past).
>notices about any changes you did to the stuff in the file" are
>usually considered ok). They just prefer the GPL for stuff of their
>own and recommend using it for otehrs as well.
They do however use code under other licences in their own stuff,
including code under licences believed by many to be incompatible with
the GPL.
ray
--
Ray Auchterlounie <ray@kythera.demon.co.uk>
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Date: Sun, 31 May 1998 17:09:23 -0400
From: "brent verner" <REPLY_TO_damonbrent@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: i need help...much!!!...anyone, please...
Message-Id: <6ksgot$2pq$1@argentina.it.earthlink.net>
many thanks, i'm quite clear now about the 'utility' of this app. i'm sorry
if i seemed to demean the perl lang, that is far from truth...i enjoy
working in perl a lot. i guess i've really not thought about the lang much
outside of the way i use it with CGI. yes, there are other langs that meet
the CGI requirements...but perl is the most widely accepted/supported lang
in my experience.
once again, many thanks,
brent verner
(yes, i'm off to try some of the hints i got. i'll check back once i've
learned enough to ask more questions.)
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Date: Sun, 31 May 1998 18:21:08 GMT
From: pudge@pobox.com (Chris Nandor)
Subject: Re: Internet Relay Chat
Message-Id: <pudge-3105981415260001@dynamic406.ply.adelphia.net>
In article <6ks0ea$lic$1@nnrp3.snfc21.pbi.net>,
trickett@pacbell.net.revome_this_for_valid_email (Adam) wrote:
# Much as I agree with you.... I think the client want to be able to click on a
# link with Netscape, and be taken to a webpage, and that page/frameset acts
# like an IRC, with realtime update. Personally I think he's mad, but he's not
# my client, and I was only asking to see if I could help my friend.
You should have your client tell him that is foolishness. :-) However,
yes, Java is your only bet at all for doing this in a browser without any
extra plugins, assuming they use a browser with Java.
# Thanks for the input, I shall relay it to my colleague, Java isn't something
# he has used, but Perl is, hence the posting here. Perl.com has a IRC module
# for Perl, but I haven't investiageted it yet, and it's still in beta.
Net::IRC is a good module, but Perl does not run inside the browser. You
need to grasp the reality that HTML and HTTP are not suited to this task,
and that some other program needs to do it. It just so happens that you
can make a program run embedded in a web page, but only Java is really
suited to the task at this time.
--
Chris Nandor mailto:pudge@pobox.com http://pudge.net/
%PGPKey = ('B76E72AD', [1024, '0824090B CE73CA10 1FF77F13 8180B6B6'])
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Date: 31 May 1998 21:37:04 GMT
From: danny@lennon.postino.com (Danny Aldham)
Subject: Re: Internet Relay Chat
Message-Id: <6ksii0$92e$1@lennon.postino.com>
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2]
Chris Nandor (pudge@pobox.com) wrote:
: Net::IRC is a good module, but Perl does not run inside the browser. You
: need to grasp the reality that HTML and HTTP are not suited to this task,
: and that some other program needs to do it. It just so happens that you
: can make a program run embedded in a web page, but only Java is really
: suited to the task at this time.
What ever happened to Penguin and the idea of downloading perl code
to run via the browser? And with the release of Netscape source code,
has anyone considered putting a perl virtual machine into it?
--
Danny Aldham SCO Ace, MCSE, JAPH, DAD
Sun Microsystems & Scott McNeely support the government attack
on the computer industry & free enterprise. Still like Sun?
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Date: 31 May 1998 13:56:24 -0400
From: jzawodn@wcnet.org (Jeremy D. Zawodny)
Subject: Re: location of archive
Message-Id: <m3ogwexr1z.fsf@peach.z.org>
tom arnall <kloro@erols.com> writes:
> where is the location of the archive for this newsgroup?
I don't know that there is any *one* archive. Many folks use DejaNews
to lookup old stuff.
http://www.dejanews.com/
Jeremy
--
Jeremy D. Zawodny Web Geek, Hacker, etc.
http://www.wcnet.org/~jzawodn/ jzawodn@wcnet.org
LOAD "LINUX",8,1
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Date: Sun, 31 May 1998 20:04:59 GMT
From: phil@ackltd.demon.co.uk (Phil Taylor)
Subject: lockf question
Message-Id: <3571b657.9182623@news.demon.co.uk>
Is lockf a platform independant perl function? I don't want to use
flock because although the application will run on a unix server I'm
developing on NT where flock doesn't work.
I read on Randal L Shwartz web site that lockf is included in perl
version 5, but when I run the perl program it fails to find the
function. I did included the line:-
use IO qw(:Handle)
Any thoughts?
Phil Taylor
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Date: Sat, 30 May 1998 10:04:08 GMT
From: ryelah@axess.net (ryelah)
Subject: Perl + CGI
Message-Id: <51f7ce$11535.1d4@CLYDE>
I'm using Perl for some CGI programming. I was told that you can't use the
DIE function in CGI scripts because the browser doesn't know what to do with
it? So you have to write a subroutine or use some other method to log errors.
However I'm reading a book specifically designed for CGI with Perl and they
are using DIE in their scripts. So obviously I'm wondering why. If anyone
could clue me in I would appreciate it.
Malaise
email is malaise@stray.to
sorry if I messed up when posting this. Not familiar with the newsgroups yet
:)
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Date: Sun, 31 May 1998 22:34:19 GMT
From: jeff@yoak.com (Jeff Yoak)
Subject: Re: Perl + CGI
Message-Id: <6kslq7$hha@dfw-ixnews6.ix.netcom.com>
[posted and emailed]
ryelah@axess.net (ryelah) wrote:
>I'm using Perl for some CGI programming. I was told that you can't use the
>DIE function in CGI scripts because the browser doesn't know what to do with
>it? So you have to write a subroutine or use some other method to log errors.
> However I'm reading a book specifically designed for CGI with Perl and they
>are using DIE in their scripts. So obviously I'm wondering why. If anyone
>could clue me in I would appreciate it.
Malaise,
You could look into the documentation for the Carp module for one way
to handle this problem. I would also strongly suggest an article by
brian d foy in the most recent Perl Journal ( http://www.tpj.com/ ) in
which he covers Carp and some other related methods and issues. I had
been aware for some time that I was writing CGI programs that were
inelegant to say the least in that regard and that article gave me the
means of fixing the problem.
>sorry if I messed up when posting this. Not familiar with the newsgroups yet
>:)
In the future you might want to post
comp.infosystems.www.authoring.cgi when you have CGI-related
questions. You're more likely to find interested parties there.
Cheers,
Jeff
--
Jeff Yoak jeff@yoak.com
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Date: Sun, 31 May 1998 14:44:40 -0500
From: "Hisao Nakanishi" <hisao@physics.purdue.edu>
Subject: Random permutations in Perl
Message-Id: <6ksbt4$kmt@mozo.cc.purdue.edu>
Is there a simple way to generate permutations of n numbers
(say, 1,2, thru n) randomly (keyed by some seed number) in
Perl? Is there a module that does this already available?
H. Nakanishi
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Date: Sun, 31 May 1998 14:59:08 -0500
From: Andrew Johnson <ajohnson@gpu.srv.ualberta.ca>
Subject: Re: Random permutations in Perl
Message-Id: <3571B68C.9BF46DD@gpu.srv.ualberta.ca>
Hisao Nakanishi wrote:
>
> Is there a simple way to generate permutations of n numbers
> (say, 1,2, thru n) randomly (keyed by some seed number) in
> Perl? Is there a module that does this already available?
a quick grep on permute in the perlfaqs reveals
one entry which would appear to answer your question:
[danger:ajohnson:~]$ faqgrep permute
perlfaq4.pod:=head2 How do I permute N elements of a list?
hope it helps
regards
andrew
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Date: Sun, 31 May 1998 20:03:47 GMT
From: michaeldore@hotmail.com (Michael Dori)
Subject: Re: Random permutations in Perl
Message-Id: <3573b697.2497756@news.nacs.net>
On Sun, 31 May 1998 14:44:40 -0500, "Hisao Nakanishi"
<hisao@physics.purdue.edu> wrote:
>Is there a simple way to generate permutations of n numbers
>(say, 1,2, thru n) randomly (keyed by some seed number) in
>Perl? Is there a module that does this already available?
>
>H. Nakanishi
>
if you want to seed the number try:
* srand(NUMBER) where NUMBER is the seed number ... use it once
at the beginning of your program ... if NUMBER is omitted, it
uses the current time by default
* rand(NUMBER) returns a random floating point number between
zero and NUMBER ... if NUMBER is omitted, the the default is 1
if you want a random int then use:
int(rand(NUMBER));
hope this helps ....
Mike Dori
michaeldore@hotmail.com
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Date: Sun, 31 May 1998 20:30:34 GMT
From: q14988@hkimd.mot.com (Vincent W. Yin)
Subject: split behavious
Message-Id: <3571bbdc.214679062@news.cig.mot.com>
Can someone please explain to me the following:
In the camel book (2nd ed.), it says that:
"if PATTERN is also omitted, the function splits on whitespace, /\s+/, after
skipping any leading whitespace." - p. 220
I assume this means that if I explicitly split on whitespace, the same behaviour
is exhibited (leading whitespace is skipped). I tried the following code
fragment:
#!/usr/bin/perl
open (SOURCE, "testinput.txt");
while ($line = <SOURCE>) {
chop ($line);
($col1, $col2) = split (/\s+/, $line);
print "$col1\t$col2\n";
}
on the following "testinput.txt" data:
1 1
2 2
3 3
4 4
5 5
10 10
11 11
12 12
13 13
14 14
15 15
and got the following output:
1
2
3
4
5
10 10
11 11
12 12
13 13
14 14
15 15
Can someone explain to me what is going on? I don't recall ever having problems
using split before :(
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Date: Sun, 31 May 1998 21:30:18 GMT
From: sowmaster@juicepigs.com (Bob Trieger)
Subject: Re: split behavious
Message-Id: <6ksi7v$ri9$2@strato.ultra.net>
[ posted and mailed ]
q14988@hkimd.mot.com wrote:
-> #!/usr/bin/perl
->
-> open (SOURCE, "testinput.txt");
->
-> while ($line = <SOURCE>) {
-> chop ($line);
use "chomp" instead of "chop", it's safer.
-> ($col1, $col2) = split (/\s+/, $line);
-> print "$col1\t$col2\n";
-> }
->
-> on the following "testinput.txt" data:
->
-> 1 1
....
-> 10 10
->
-> and got the following output:
->
-> 1
...
-> 10 10
-> Can someone explain to me what is going on? I don't recall ever having
-> problems using split before :(
You have a space before the single digits in the source file that you don't
prior to the double digits.
Bob Trieger
sowmaster@juicepigs.com
" Cost a spammer some cash: Call 1-800-320-9895
and hang up when somebody answers "
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Date: Sun, 31 May 1998 20:13:04 GMT
From: fantome/@/usa/./net (le Fanttme)
Subject: Re: What does the FSF want? (was Re: GPL documentation == unspeakable evil
Message-Id: <988F542CDB7A0A92.3D88AB2DADD77FFA.34C52C37B3C15366@library-proxy.airnews.net>
On 30 May 1998 14:46:50 +0100, Bruce Stephens
<bruce@cenderis.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>lvirden@cas.org writes:
>
>> Frankly, because of the distance between meanings of 'free' that
>> people have, it seems unproductive to attempt to come to an
>> agreement.
>In any case, as far as I remember the original intention was to ask
>for free (as in modifiable, redistributable) documentation which reads
>like the book, which is different to a bunch of documents each of
>which is very good, but perhaps lacks the overall structure of, say,
>the Emacs manual. I didn't understand the request to be about the
>manpages at all.
This analysis is not really that accurate about the coherence of the
man pages as opposed to the Emacs manual. In fact, I think that the
man pages in Perl are far better than the Emacs manual for the simple
reason that the Emacs manual is feature-oriented, whereas the Perl man
pages are concept-and-task-oriented. The Perl man pages seem to me to
be very similar to the published books as I have compared them (very
unscientifically, mind you).
I also don't see the problem with enforcing a single point of control
in a license -- especially for documentation.
-f
--
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Date: Sun, 31 May 1998 20:20:53 +0100
From: Andy Chantrill <support@derby-county.com>
Subject: whois
Message-Id: <3571AD94.FD5501C2@derby-county.com>
where can i get a whois script to either tell me if a domain name is in
use or available?
would prefer freeware is poss.
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Date: Sun, 31 May 1998 21:11:42 +0100
From: pjg7@aber.ac.uk (Peter Gradwell)
Subject: Re: whois
Message-Id: <pjg7-3105982111430001@pcihhh.ott.aber.ac.uk>
In article <3571AD94.FD5501C2@derby-county.com>, Andy Chantrill
<support@derby-county.com> wrote:
>where can i get a whois script to either tell me if a domain name is in
>use or available?
>would prefer freeware is poss.
search your local friendly web searcher for "cdomain"
Peter.
--
peter at gradwell dot com
mailto:peter[@]gradwell.com online @ http://www.gradwell.nu/
"To look back all the time is boring. Excitement lies in tomorrow"
...have you seen www.aber.nu? - It'll be a "nu" aber web site.
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Date: Sun, 31 May 1998 19:45:49 GMT
From: Gellyfish@btinternet.com (Jonathan Stowe)
Subject: Re: WIN32
Message-Id: <3571b130.118191020@news.btinternet.com>
On Sun, 31 May 1998 14:28:29 GMT, Rene Tschannen wrote :
>Well, that's enough. Maybe you get some hints this way from another
>newbie, watching the threads here for a couple of weeks, finding a lot
>of his questions answered in the postings here to others, and learning
>a lot from the cracks here around, sharing their knowledge and
Thats Craic actually. Its Gaelic let them spell it how they want.
>experience freely ... even to sometimes clueless newbies like me, even
>to stupid questions, if you don't expect that your problems are solved
>for you without effort. Thanks to all of them here - it's really
>something great!
>
Absolutely
/J\
Jonathan Stowe
Some of your questions answered:
<URL:http://www.btinternet.com/~gellyfish/resources/wwwfaq.htm>
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