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Perl-Users Digest, Issue: 2773 Volume: 8
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Sun May 31 14:12:12 1998
Date: Sun, 31 May 98 11:00:35 -0700
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Perl-Users Digest Sun, 31 May 1998 Volume: 8 Number: 2773
Today's topics:
Re: A Email to WWW GaTeWaY, is there such a Thing? <leonb@ami.com.au>
Re: Beginner problems with Win32 Perl <kloro@erols.com>
Re: Best tool? (David Garth-Owen)
Re: chmod in perl? (Shaun Sides)
Re: Copylefting manuals (Mats Wichmann)
HELP::Comparing strings <Centollo@iname.com>
Re: HELP::Comparing strings <dcameron@bcs.org.uk>
I want to use lvarchar type column in this env !! <accplus@goldbank.co.kr>
Re: Internet Relay Chat <prophet@skepticult.org>
Re: Internet Relay Chat (Chris Nandor)
Re: Internet Relay Chat (Adam)
location of archive <kloro@erols.com>
Re: Need helps from experts ? (Michael Armstrong)
newbie trying to run Term::Cap on Win32 <kloro@erols.com>
Re: Perl on Windows32 (Jeremy D. Zawodny)
Reading Remote Text File <james@jadnet.abel.co.uk>
Re: Reading Remote Text File <webmaster@ionline.hypermart.net>
Re: Reading whole file into a scalar mike808@my-dejanews.com
Re: Reading whole file into a scalar <tchrist@mox.perl.com>
Re: seek advice on simple first program (Shaun Sides)
Re: seek advice on simple first program (Shaun Sides)
Re: Something like "Visual Perl"? (Gary M. Greenberg)
Re: Translating first letter of sentence into a capital <lr@hpl.hp.com>
Re: WIN32 (Rene Tschannen)
Re: WIN32 scott@softbase.com
Re: WIN32 (Jeremy D. Zawodny)
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Date: Sun, 31 May 1998 18:17:32 +0800
From: Leon Brooks <leonb@ami.com.au>
Subject: Re: A Email to WWW GaTeWaY, is there such a Thing?
Message-Id: <35712E3C.3E9FD63B@ami.com.au>
Jason Clifford wrote:
> Igor wrote:
> > If you know where I can find email-to-www gateway (a-la Hotmail) so that
> > I could read email from my Web Browser via HTTP, please email me.
I think that there is about to be a free one, based on PostGreSQL
(http://www.postgresql.org), AppGEN
(http://www.man.ac.uk/~whaley/ag/appgen.html) and either SendMail
(http://www.sendmail.org) or qmail (http://www.qmail.org) and Apache
(http://www.apache.org). If there is, it will be announced on COLA
(news:comp.os.linux.announce) and FreshMeat (http://freshmeat.net). I
think I'll call it SeeMail.
---
Windows? No thanks, I don't have food poisoning.
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Date: Sun, 31 May 1998 11:23:42 -0400
From: tom arnall <kloro@erols.com>
To: Cameron Dorey <camerond@mail.uca.edu>
Subject: Re: Beginner problems with Win32 Perl
Message-Id: <357175FE.486959F6@erols.com>
dear group and cameron and james,
Cameron Dorey wrote:
> James S Kang wrote:
> >
> > Ok, I'm just starting to mess with perl, and I don't have a book right now.
>
> RUN, do not walk, to the nearest bookstore and purchase a copy of
> "Learning Perl on Win32 Systems," by Schwartz, Olsen, and Christiansen.
> You're going to have to do it sometime, and now's the best time. You
> will actually have all your questions answered _much_ faster in that
> book (because you will have a lot of them) than in this forum (or any
> other online forum, for that matter).
>
> Actually, that's the best advice anyone on this newsgroup will give you,
> because it's the best thing anyone in your situation right now can do
> (IMHO, of course), otherwise you'll be nickle-and-dimeing yourself
> through one microproblem after another for way too long.
as one who has tried it both ways (nickel-and-dimeing and biting the bullet), i
feel compelled to say, "hear, hear!!" also, the Perl troika definitely deserves
its keep, and this is one way that we can help provide it. also, i w'd recommend
"mastering regular expressions" by jeff friedl if y'r weak in that area. ("i ...
certainly learned a lot [from friedl's book], even about Perl" - tom
christiansen)
>
>
> >
> > [all the specific stuff snipped]
>
> BTW, there is a chapter on CGI in the book, that's what you are trying
> to do here.
> >
> > Please reply through e-mail (jkang@nwu.edu) if you can help.
>
> If I reply through email, it's *always* to the "Reply-to:" address
the newsgroup handler in the latest version of netscape has a 'reply to both
sender and group' option, and fills in both addresses
> (why
> should I have to work harder - type - to give someone free help), and
> yours is screwed up, so I hope you read the newsgroup.
try to be nice
> Cameron
> camerond@mail.uca.edu
>
> (To reply by email, replace "@" with "@".) - I love that, wish I could
> remember whose note I saw it on first.
--
thanks,
tom arnall
fort washington, md
usa
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Date: Sun, 31 May 1998 14:11:34 GMT
From: dg-owen@online.no (David Garth-Owen)
Subject: Re: Best tool?
Message-Id: <357164aa.1017268274@news1.telia.com>
For Windows95 and Windows NT4.0
EditPad is a fantastic editor
Download from http://www.ping.be/jg/editpad.shtml
On Sat, 30 May 1998 07:36:44 GMT, stlam@yahoo.com wrote:
>hi all,
>
>1) What is the best tool for PERL programmer?
>Is Perl Builder from www.solutionsoft.com is the best IDE for PERL?
>
>2) What is the best tool for Web developer?
>Is Cold fusion is the best?
>It seems that using cold fusion, I don't need to write code.
>but I know Perl.
>
>Thanks,
>Stlam.
>
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Date: 31 May 1998 11:21:23 GMT
From: arch@abts.net (Shaun Sides)
Subject: Re: chmod in perl?
Message-Id: <slrn6n1sr9.4mh.arch@abts.net>
Original message by: Brad McCready <bradmcc@comcen.com.au>
Date: 31 May 98 02:39:13 GMT
Subject: chmod in perl?
> hi guys i'm a self taught perl newbie.
>
> i have a script that creates a new file, the file defaults to chmod 644,
> but i want to change it to 755, how do i do this in perl?
>
> thanks for any assistance given.
chmod 0755, "/usr/bin/foo" or die "Couldn't change mode. $!";
--
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==============================================================================
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Date: Sun, 31 May 1998 17:36:49 GMT
From: xyzmats@laplaza.org (Mats Wichmann)
Subject: Re: Copylefting manuals
Message-Id: <356f1956.12709605@news.laplaza.org>
On Thu, 28 May 1998 21:24:36 GMT, Barry Margolin
<barmar@bbnplanet.com> wrote:
>Certainly. But that doesn't mean that it falls under the fair use
>exception in copyright law. If you want to use someone else's code in your
>program, you normally need to get his permission. That the code is in a
>manual rather than another program doesn't necessarily change this.
>However, I'm not a legal scholar, so I don't know precisely how the fair
>use doctrine would apply. That's why I hoped for an IP lawyer to supply
>some insight (I don't know how many of them hang out in this newsgroup -- I
>could probably get an answer if I added misc.int-property to the
>cross-posting, but I'm loathe to expand this moby thread to an
>unsuspecting, innocent newsgroup like that).
Many folks seem to have an interest in weakening the way fair-use
doctrine is interpreted, and from what I hear, they're having some
measure of success. The most recent round of revisions to the
copyright laws did weaken it, to the dismay of a number of academics
who have depended on fair-use for teaching/research. In addition,
there are proposed UCC (Uniform Commercial Code) revisions on the
table which would allow contracts for software that can prohibit some
of what appears to be implied by copyright law at the moment - for
example, the provisions of fair use that apply to reviewing for
publication.
Disclaimer: I am not a lawyer.
Mats Wichmann
(Anti-spam stuff: to reply remove the "xyz" from the
address xyzmats@laplaza.org. Not that it helps much...)
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Date: Sun, 31 May 1998 16:20:02 +0200
From: Johan Priwshy <Centollo@iname.com>
Subject: HELP::Comparing strings
Message-Id: <35716711.FD727C49@iname.com>
Hi there. I've a little problem comparing strings.
let's say we have these two variables:
$str1 = "test";
$str2 = "test";
and let's say we can compare them within an if statement:
if ($str1 == $str2) {
bla bla
}
I've found THIS DOESN'T work!!
let's have a look to this piece of code:
print "$row[0] \n";
print "$password \n";
if ($row[0] == $password) {
print "\n\n the password DO match!!";
}
and let's see what it outputs:
> brasil
> monkey
> the password DO match!!
What the hell am I doing wrong??
can you please help me??? Thanks in advance
please. reply also to <rasta at hehe dot com>
sam.
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Date: 31 May 1998 14:30:44 GMT
From: "Duncan Cameron" <dcameron@bcs.org.uk>
Subject: Re: HELP::Comparing strings
Message-Id: <01bd8ca0$ab70e300$4b3c63c3@dns.btinternet.com>
You're doing a numeric comparison (==) when you want to be doing a string
comparison (eq).
You probably aren't using the -w switch - you should be!
HTH
Duncan Cameron
Johan Priwshy <Centollo@iname.com> wrote in article
<35716711.FD727C49@iname.com>...
> Hi there. I've a little problem comparing strings.
> let's say we have these two variables:
> $str1 = "test";
> $str2 = "test";
>
> and let's say we can compare them within an if statement:
> if ($str1 == $str2) {
> bla bla
> }
>
<the remainder snipped>
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Date: Mon, 01 Jun 1998 01:13:19 +0900
From: Jeon Chang-Hun <accplus@goldbank.co.kr>
Subject: I want to use lvarchar type column in this env !!
Message-Id: <3571819F.AFBFDB6@goldbank.co.kr>
my environment:
IUS 9.13UC2
DBD::Informix 0.58
DBI 0.93
perl 5.004_03
I tried to SELECT lvarchar type.
then I got a error "43 type error" message and terminated.
so, I edited DBD source files(dbdimp.ec, sqltype.ec, etc...)
my edited DBD support only three lvarchar type column.
if i use more than four lvarchar type column then error.
anyway, I want to use any number of lvarchar type column.
help me ~~~~
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Date: Sun, 31 May 1998 11:05:14 GMT
From: Jon Walsh <prophet@skepticult.org>
Subject: Re: Internet Relay Chat
Message-Id: <m31ztan1ld.fsf@tittymonster.skepticult.org>
set@netcom.com (Sam Trenholme) writes:
> >A colleague is looking to provide IRC for a client. The client does not like
> >the periodic update, nor manual refresh style chat. My colleague wishes to
> >provide this kind of "live" IRC on his virtual Linux/Apache system.
>
> To get live IRC w/o refresh/manual update requires one to implement an IRC
> client in a language the enduser's web browser has, which has the ability
> to open up sockets (talk to machines on the internet). Your best bet is
> to find a Java program that does this.
There is a java IRC client somewhere on the IBM site. Unfortunately, it
appears they've removed the link to it that was on the Undernet site, so
you'll have to hunt it down. It was a bit buggy, but usuable.
Then again, I'm not quite sure if this is
what you were looking for.
--
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Certified Psychic and Healtheologist | WWW : http://www.skepticult.org
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Date: Sun, 31 May 1998 15:42:52 GMT
From: pudge@pobox.com (Chris Nandor)
Subject: Re: Internet Relay Chat
Message-Id: <pudge-3105981137110001@dynamic406.ply.adelphia.net>
In article <6kqcus$ndt$1@nnrp4.snfc21.pbi.net>,
trickett@pacbell.net.revome_this_for_valid_email (Adam) wrote:
# A colleague is looking to provide IRC for a client. The client does not like
# the periodic update, nor manual refresh style chat. My colleague wishes to
# provide this kind of "live" IRC on his virtual Linux/Apache system.
#
# What kind of modules/scripts have people used that can provice this kind of
# functionality?
I see nothing in here that says "this is supposed to run in a browser" (as
it seems the responses assumed, and this is not a Web newsgroup anyway),
so why not provide the client with ircII, mIRC, ircle, sirc, or one of the
other IRC clients out there? Why should a protocol that inherently needs
a constant connection (IRC) be done over a protocol that doesn't support
it (HTTP)? Why should web browsers be the end-all of Internet
communication?
--
Chris Nandor mailto:pudge@pobox.com http://pudge.net/
%PGPKey = ('B76E72AD', [1024, '0824090B CE73CA10 1FF77F13 8180B6B6'])
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Date: Sun, 31 May 1998 16:25:56 GMT
From: trickett@pacbell.net.revome_this_for_valid_email (Adam)
Subject: Re: Internet Relay Chat
Message-Id: <6ks0ea$lic$1@nnrp3.snfc21.pbi.net>
In article <pudge-3105981137110001@dynamic406.ply.adelphia.net>, pudge@pobox.com (Chris Nandor) wrote:
>In article <6kqcus$ndt$1@nnrp4.snfc21.pbi.net>,
>trickett@pacbell.net.revome_this_for_valid_email (Adam) wrote:
>
># A colleague is looking to provide IRC for a client. The client does not like
># the periodic update, nor manual refresh style chat. My colleague wishes to
># provide this kind of "live" IRC on his virtual Linux/Apache system.
>
>I see nothing in here that says "this is supposed to run in a browser" (as
>it seems the responses assumed, and this is not a Web newsgroup anyway),
>so why not provide the client with ircII, mIRC, ircle, sirc, or one of the
>other IRC clients out there? Why should a protocol that inherently needs
>a constant connection (IRC) be done over a protocol that doesn't support
>it (HTTP)? Why should web browsers be the end-all of Internet
>communication?
>
Much as I agree with you.... I think the client want to be able to click on a
link with Netscape, and be taken to a webpage, and that page/frameset acts
like an IRC, with realtime update. Personally I think he's mad, but he's not
my client, and I was only asking to see if I could help my friend.
Thanks for the input, I shall relay it to my colleague, Java isn't something
he has used, but Perl is, hence the posting here. Perl.com has a IRC module
for Perl, but I haven't investiageted it yet, and it's still in beta.
Again, thanks for the input.
---
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Date: Sun, 31 May 1998 13:07:00 -0400
From: tom arnall <kloro@erols.com>
Subject: location of archive
Message-Id: <35718E34.B2D056AE@erols.com>
where is the location of the archive for this newsgroup?
--
thanks,
tom arnall
accokeek, md
usa
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Date: Sun, 31 May 1998 14:22:05 GMT
From: michaela@phosphor.com (Michael Armstrong)
Subject: Re: Need helps from experts ?
Message-Id: <357165fb.2993844@news.visi.com>
On Sun, 31 May 1998 14:40:22 +0800, "Ezwar Effendy A. Jalil"
<a9430170@fit.unimas.my> spake thusly:
[snip]
(A better description of the problem than "not working" would more
helpful in the future.)
>server typed. I used the scripts for educational purposed. My web
>directory is http://www.fit.unimas.my:8080/~a9430170/Calendar/
>My path is /home/student/UGRAD/a9430170/WWW/Calendar/
>The cgi-bin directory is /home/sandbox/U_Hyper/WWW/cgi-bin/
Is there some special reason that the CGIs for the calendar scripts
aren't in your cgi-bin directory (or a subdirectory therein)? Many Web
servers won't execute CGI scripts outside of certain designated
directories, either a server wide cgi-bin or a user's individual
cgi-bin directory.
Once you move them to a proper cgi-bin directory, you'll likely need
to edit the scripts so the directory settings in calendar.setup point
the right place.
---
Michael Armstrong
michaela@phosphor.com http://www.phosphor.com/
Full service Web design and Internet consulting
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Date: Sun, 31 May 1998 13:01:53 -0400
From: tom arnall <kloro@erols.com>
Subject: newbie trying to run Term::Cap on Win32
Message-Id: <35718D00.5F94ABEF@erols.com>
the compiler tells me that OSPEED and TERM are undefined and then goes
back to OS w/out doing anything - what do i need to do to get the
'$terminal' structure right?
--
thanks,
tom arnall
fort washington, md
usa
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Date: 31 May 1998 11:33:49 -0400
From: jzawodn@wcnet.org (Jeremy D. Zawodny)
Subject: Re: Perl on Windows32
Message-Id: <m3lnriiheq.fsf@peach.z.org>
"L. Weynand" <herbert.weynand@fiscalnet.be> writes:
> I want to check my CGI Scripts offline...
What do you mean by "check"? Do you want to run them through a web
server? Do you just need to do a "perl -cw myscript.cgi"?
> So I wanted to know how to do that. It seems I have to use a Server
> program and a perl program.
Well, at a minimum you need Perl. You may or may not need a web server.
> Where can I download theses and what do I have to do ?
Perl download info is available on http://www.perl.com/.
I'm not in the habit of recommending Win32 web servers for Perl
development, so I'll point you to one of the web server-related
groups for that information.
Jeremy
--
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http://www.wcnet.org/~jzawodn/ jzawodn@wcnet.org
LOAD "LINUX",8,1
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Date: Sun, 31 May 1998 11:54:37 +0100
From: "James Dales" <james@jadnet.abel.co.uk>
Subject: Reading Remote Text File
Message-Id: <896612072.14023.0.nnrp-11.c1ed8807@news.demon.co.uk>
Is is possible to read in a text file stored at eg
http://www.test.com/test.txt ?
If so how,
thanks
James
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Date: Mon, 01 Jun 1998 01:56:48 +1200
From: Matt McKenzie <webmaster@ionline.hypermart.net>
Subject: Re: Reading Remote Text File
Message-Id: <357161A0.FDBD288@ionline.hypermart.net>
yes.....libwww
LWP::Simple should do this for you.
James Dales wrote:
> Is is possible to read in a text file stored at eg
> http://www.test.com/test.txt ?
>
> If so how,
>
> thanks
>
> James
--
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Perl Crawler - http://perlsearch.fsn.net
http://perlsearch.hypermart.net
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Date: Sun, 31 May 1998 13:40:21 GMT
From: mike808@my-dejanews.com
Subject: Re: Reading whole file into a scalar
Message-Id: <6krmk5$2bl$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com>
In article <8cvhqq54gq.fsf@gadget.cscaper.com>,
Randal Schwartz <merlyn@stonehenge.com> wrote:
> >>>>> "Lack" == Lack Mr G M <gml4410@ggr.co.uk> writes:
> Lack> { local $/; # So we only undef our view of it, not our callers...
> Lack> undef $/;
> This is unnecessary. local() and my() vars are automatically undef
> when declared.
Randal, I thought the whole purpose of the "local" construct was to RETAIN
the value from the enclosing scope in a "localized" _copy_ of the value. Why
on earth would it undef the variable? $/ is a perl "global" intialized during
perl startup. It is _not_ "undef" by default when "declared", as it has
already been declared, in effect, by the time our scripts start. I believe
your statement is misleading, and the example code would work as desired.
TMTOWTDI. Personally, I use: local $/ = undef; to keep it on one line, but
Lack has certainly not misunderstood his code's purpose nor is it unnecessary
as you claim. I doubt it would work if changed per your instruction.
Michael.
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Date: 31 May 1998 14:10:29 GMT
From: Tom Christiansen <tchrist@mox.perl.com>
Subject: Re: Reading whole file into a scalar
Message-Id: <6krocl$gch$1@csnews.cs.colorado.edu>
[courtesy cc of this posting sent to cited author via email]
In comp.lang.perl.misc, mike808@my-dejanews.com writes:
:
:Randal, I thought the whole purpose of the "local" construct was to RETAIN
:the value from the enclosing scope in a "localized" _copy_ of the value.
No, you're confused. You're thinking of
local $x = $x;
:Why
:on earth would it undef the variable?
Because that's the rule.
:$/ is a perl "global" intialized during
:perl startup. It is _not_ "undef" by default when "declared", as it has
:already been declared, in effect, by the time our scripts start.
Congratualations, you have managed to misunderstand local() in a way
I've not seen before.
:I believe
:your statement is misleading, and the example code would work as desired.
Nope.
:TMTOWTDI. Personally, I use: local $/ = undef; to keep it on one line, but
That's superstition.
:Lack has certainly not misunderstood his code's purpose nor is it unnecessary
:as you claim. I doubt it would work if changed per your instruction.
Speculation and doubt should not enter into the matter.
Empirical evidence should.
--tom
--
Fifty years of programming language research, and we end up with C++ ???
--Richard A. O'Keefe
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Date: 31 May 1998 11:36:42 GMT
From: arch@abts.net (Shaun Sides)
Subject: Re: seek advice on simple first program
Message-Id: <slrn6n1to0.4mh.arch@abts.net>
Original message by: M.J.T. Guy <mjtg@cus.cam.ac.uk>
Date: 30 May 1998 13:48:11 GMT
Subject: Re: seek advice on simple first program
> It's the entry "list operators (rightward)". The table could perhaps
> be made clearer by explaining that "list operators (leftward)" means
> list or unary operators with their arguments in parentheses, while
> "list operators (rightward)" means list operators whose arguments are
> _not_ contained in parens.
Thanks for that explanation. ;-)
So what I had originally would have been file if I'd used
open(FILE, $file) instead of open FILE, $file? Ok.
--
==============================================================================
Shaun L. Sides | Hey! CyberGold | arch@abts.net
Free Randal Schwartz and Ric Flair! | wastes yer time | arch@sara.mmlc.nwu.edu
==============================================================================
The time for desperation is upon us. Let's play.
First Wizard Zeddicus Zu'l Zorander
==============================================================================
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Date: 31 May 1998 11:43:40 GMT
From: arch@abts.net (Shaun Sides)
Subject: Re: seek advice on simple first program
Message-Id: <slrn6n1u51.4mh.arch@abts.net>
Original message by: Larry Rosler <lr@hpl.hp.com>
Date: Sat, 30 May 1998 07:57:15 -0700
Subject: Re: seek advice on simple first program
> In this case, it was no surprise to me that the output record separator
> is significantly faster than the list separator. (I think you meant
> your sentence the other way around.)
Yes, for some reason I read your sentence backwards. ;-)
> separator $\ after each list element. As discussed elsewhere (if I were
> at my office, I would start to look somewhere around page 540 in the
> Blue Camel), the 'print' statement efficiently prints the elements of
Fascinating. I have progressed that far into the Camel, yet. Trying to
understand references at the moment. ;-) The other oddments chapter
looks like it'll be very interesting.
--
==============================================================================
Shaun L. Sides | Hey! CyberGold | arch@abts.net
Free Randal Schwartz and Ric Flair! | wastes yer time | arch@sara.mmlc.nwu.edu
==============================================================================
The time for desperation is upon us. Let's play.
First Wizard Zeddicus Zu'l Zorander
==============================================================================
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Date: Sun, 31 May 1998 14:12:14 GMT
From: garyg@gator.net (Gary M. Greenberg)
Subject: Re: Something like "Visual Perl"?
Message-Id: <2zdc1.30$Kl2.190930@news.randori.com>
PerlBuilder
Cheers,
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http://www.gator.net/~garyg/C/c.html
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http://www.gator.net/~garyg/class.htm
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Date: Sun, 31 May 1998 04:14:05 -0700
From: "Larry Rosler" <lr@hpl.hp.com>
Subject: Re: Translating first letter of sentence into a capital
Message-Id: <6krel8$aq3@hplntx.hpl.hp.com>
malgosia askanas wrote in message <6kq76o$6od@panix2.panix.com>...
>Ah, thanks a million. It was the \u construct that I was missing.
>And the trick of reading the whole file into a scalar is very nice.
>
>In answer to Larry's question, my definition of a sentence is no
better.
>But fortunately this program doesn't have to be perfect about it, just
mostly
>right.
>
>
>-malgosia
I'm glad this newsgroup helped. I think that if you steer clear of
abbreviations things will come out right. And even abbreviations might
work. Try "this sentence is about dr. no." for example. Two out of
three is 'mostly right' :-)
At the risk of slight overkill, I observe that sentences can not only be
quoted but can also be bracketed in various ways. This small refinement
takes that into account:
s/(^\s*|[.?!][])}"']*\s+[[({"']*)([a-z])/$1\u$2/gs;
Trap for the unwary: As written, the order of the characters in the
second character class is significant!
(And the algorithm would fail if the above two sentences were presented
entirely in lower case. As I said, this is fun.)
--
Larry Rosler
Hewlett-Packard Laboratories
lr@hpl.hp.com
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Date: Sun, 31 May 1998 14:28:29 GMT
From: r.tsch@octave2.ch (Rene Tschannen)
Subject: Re: WIN32
Message-Id: <3572411e.5259703@news.bluewin.ch>
On Sun, 31 May 1998 11:38:47 +0200, "E. Zimmermann"
<webmaster@celebindex.com> wrote:
>Hello !
>
>I want to check my CGI Scripts offline... So I wanted to know how to do
>that. It seems I have to use a Server program and a perl program.
>
>Where can I download theses and what do I have to do ?
>
>Can someone help me please ???
>
>Emmanuel
>
>Sorry !
>
>I sent another message with wrond mailproperties !
Hi Emanuel
I would suggest reconsidering your project ... to be able to use perl
you have to meet very high standards:
1. You should be able to use search engines like yahoo or something
and typing strange words like "perl" or "webserver", and then scanning
the results, eventually finding www.perl.com, www.activestate.com or
another URL for perl ... it's not easy!
2. You should be able to scan this news group for similar questions
... or even use an archive like www.dejanews.com.
3. There are a lot of FAQ's and articles around ... almost impossible
to find at:
http://cpan.perl.org/doc/FAQs/
http://cpan.perl.org/
http://www.perl.com/CPAN/
http://cpan.perl.org/doc/FAQs/FAQ/html/perlfaq.html
http://www.perl.com/CPAN/doc/FAQs/FAQ/html/perlfaq.html
4. And if you're still not discouraged to ask questions here, I will
warn you: There are a few awe-inspiring cracks around here, watching
every single word with their critical minds, and answering questions
mostly with something horrible like:
- Wrong news group, your question is not a perl question (they are
picky with you: if I don't find the start button of my computer in
order to run a perl program, then to ask where to push _is_ definitely
a perl question ... isn't it?)
- RTFM (I'm not a native speaker of English, but the "F" stands for
something very indecent as far as i know...)
Well, that's enough. Maybe you get some hints this way from another
newbie, watching the threads here for a couple of weeks, finding a lot
of his questions answered in the postings here to others, and learning
a lot from the cracks here around, sharing their knowledge and
experience freely ... even to sometimes clueless newbies like me, even
to stupid questions, if you don't expect that your problems are solved
for you without effort. Thanks to all of them here - it's really
something great!
Hope this helps!
Rene
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Date: 31 May 1998 14:14:12 GMT
From: scott@softbase.com
Subject: Re: WIN32
Message-Id: <6krojk$44g$2@mainsrv.main.nc.us>
E. Zimmermann (webmaster@celebindex.com) wrote:
> I want to check my CGI Scripts offline... So I wanted to know how to do
> that. It seems I have to use a Server program and a perl program.
That's right.
> Where can I download theses and what do I have to do ?
There's a beta Apache server that runs on Win32 now. I haven't tried it
yet. Why not? Well, I am not in any hurry to try pre-beta crashware.
I'll try the GA version out. But mainly because I use the Personal Web
Server with FrontPage 98. If you don't want to fork out the big bucks
for FP98 (I didn't have to since I'm in the MSDN program), wait for
Windows 98 which will include the PWS.
But even if you get an offline testing evironment set up,
you will still have to deal with differneces between your ISP
and your rigged test setup, which can be substantial.
You might want to install Linux and Apache and mimmic your
ISP exactly.
> Can someone help me please ???
I hope so.
> Sorry !
People like to apologize, don't they?
> I sent another message with wrond mailproperties !
Sending wrond mailproperities isn't the end of the world.
Scott
--
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Date: 31 May 1998 13:26:50 -0400
From: jzawodn@wcnet.org (Jeremy D. Zawodny)
Subject: Re: WIN32
Message-Id: <m3yavipd0l.fsf@peach.z.org>
scott@softbase.com writes:
> E. Zimmermann (webmaster@celebindex.com) wrote:
>
> > Where can I download theses and what do I have to do ?
>
> There's a beta Apache server that runs on Win32 now. I haven't tried it
> yet. Why not? Well, I am not in any hurry to try pre-beta crashware.
> I'll try the GA version out.
The beta Apache isn't that bad. I've been running it quite
successfully on NT for several weeks.
> But mainly because I use the Personal Web Server with FrontPage
> 98. If you don't want to fork out the big bucks for FP98 (I didn't
> have to since I'm in the MSDN program), wait for Windows 98 which
> will include the PWS.
Micro$oft's PWS is freely downloadable from their web site. They even
make a verion of the NT Option Pack for Win95 which includes a Win95
version of IIS4.
> But even if you get an offline testing evironment set up,
> you will still have to deal with differneces between your ISP
> and your rigged test setup, which can be substantial.
Exactly.
> You might want to install Linux and Apache and mimmic your
> ISP exactly.
How to do you know that the poster's ISP uses Apache on Linux?
Jeremy
--
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