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Perl-Users Digest, Issue: 4171 Volume: 11
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Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2014 06:09:04 -0700 (PDT)
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Perl-Users Digest Thu, 13 Mar 2014 Volume: 11 Number: 4171
Today's topics:
DECEPTION IN TALK.ORIGINS <i.thrinaxodon@bitch.invalid>
ethereum <gravitalsun@hotmail.foo>
How did PHP and Python take over such a huge market-sha mentificium@gmail.com
Re: How did PHP and Python take over such a huge market <rweikusat@mobileactivedefense.com>
Re: How did PHP and Python take over such a huge market <rweikusat@mobileactivedefense.com>
Re: How did PHP and Python take over such a huge market <rweikusat@mobileactivedefense.com>
Re: How did PHP and Python take over such a huge market <gravitalsun@hotmail.foo>
Re: How did PHP and Python take over such a huge market <kaz@kylheku.com>
Re: How did PHP and Python take over such a huge market <gravitalsun@hotmail.foo>
Re: How did PHP and Python take over such a huge market <m@rtij.nl.invlalid>
Re: I would like to know if any Perl Programmer is inte <whynot@pozharski.name>
Re: Running a script as if it were a Windows executable <brian.helterline@hp.com>
Re: Running a script as if it were a Windows executable <gravitalsun@hotmail.foo>
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Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2014 18:05:07 -0400
From: I THRINAXODON <i.thrinaxodon@bitch.invalid>
Subject: DECEPTION IN TALK.ORIGINS
Message-Id: <lfqlm1$e1m$1@speranza.aioe.org>
===========================
>BREAKING HOGWASH, FOLKS!
===========================
>
TALK.ORIGINS MODERATOR DAVID IAIN GREIG
(http://www.ediacara.org/~dgreig/) RECENTLY ANNOUNCED THAT HIM, PETER
NYIKOS AND BOB CASANOVA HAVE SHUT DOWN ANY FORM OF CONSTRUCTIVE
DISCUSSION ON USENET!
>
THRINAXODON SUBSEQUENTLY SENDS THIS MESSAGE TO BOTH WASTE YOUR TIME AND
WARN YOU ABOUT THE UPCOMING DISASTER; THEY'RE CENSORING THE TRUTH THAT
YOU HAVE ORIGINS IN THE DEVONIAN!
>
PLEASE DONATE TO biolord9 (at) g.mail
>
====================================
EVIDENCE THAT HUMANS LIVED IN THE DEVONIAN:
https://groups.google.com/group/sci.bio.paleontology/browse_thread/thread/6f501c469c7af24f#
https://groups.google.com/group/sci.bio.paleontology/browse_thread/thread/3aad75c16afb0b82#
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http://thrinaxodon.wordpress.com/
===================================
THRINAXODON ONLY HAD THIS TO SAY:
"I..I...I...Can't believe it. This completely disproved Darwinian
orthodoxy."
===================================
THE BASTARDS AT THE SMITHSONIAN, AND THE LEAKEY FOUNDATION ARE ERODING
WITH FEAR.
===========================
THESE ASSHOLES ARE GOING TO DIE:
THOMAS AQUINAS;
ALDOUS HUXLEY;
BOB CASANVOVA;
SkyEyes;
DAVID IAIN GRIEG;
MARK ISAAK;
JOHN HARSHAM;
RICHARD NORMAN;
DR. DOOLITTLE;
CHARLES DARWIN;
MARK HORTON;
ERIK SIMPSON;
HYPATIAB7;
PAUL J. GANS;
JILLERY;
WIKI TRIK;
THRINAXODON;
PETER NYIKOS;
RON OKIMOTO;
JOHN S. WILKINS
===========================
THRINAXODON WAS SCOURING ANOTHER DEVONIAN FOSSIL BED, AND FOUND A
HUMAN SKULL, AND A HUMAN FEMUR. HE ANALYSED THE FINDS, AND SAW THAT
THEY WERE NOT NORMAL ROCKS. THESE WERE FOSSILIZED BONES. THEY EVEN HAD
TOOTH MARKS ON THEM. SO, THRINAXODON BROUGHT THEM TO THE LEAKEY
FOUNDATION, THEY UTTERLY DISMISSED IT, AND SAID, "We want to keep
people thinking that humans evolved 2 Ma." THRINAXODON BROUGHT HIS
SWORD, AND SAID, "SCIENCE CORRECTS ITSELF." RICHARD LEAKEY SAID, "That
is a myth, for people to believe in science." THRINAXODON PLANS TO
BRING DOOM TO SCIENCE, ITSELF.
============================
THRINAXODON IS NOW ON REDDIT
--
---Thrinaxodon
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Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2014 19:23:51 +0200
From: George Mpouras <gravitalsun@hotmail.foo>
Subject: ethereum
Message-Id: <lfq576$2pre$2@news.ntua.gr>
Have anyone here experiment with ethereum ( www.ethereum.org ) or try to
write a prototype Perl interface ? It looks very interesting project.
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Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2014 09:43:29 -0700 (PDT)
From: mentificium@gmail.com
Subject: How did PHP and Python take over such a huge market-share of Perl?
Message-Id: <75c478b2-7a0e-4f06-be4b-959533630e33@googlegroups.com>
Perl has a future in artificial intelligence.
CPAN needs to be populated with AI Mind-Modules.
--
http://mind.sourceforge.net/perl.html
http://www.cpan.org/authors/id/M/ME/MENTIFEX/mind.txt
http://www.nlg-wiki.org/systems/Special:SearchByProperty/Worker/Murray
http://www.reddit.com/r/perl/comments/2080fy/how_did_php_and_python_take_over_such_a_huge
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Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2014 17:13:21 +0000
From: Rainer Weikusat <rweikusat@mobileactivedefense.com>
Subject: Re: How did PHP and Python take over such a huge market-share of Perl?
Message-Id: <8738incpce.fsf@sable.mobileactivedefense.com>
mentificium@gmail.com writes:
> Perl has a future in artificial intelligence.
>
> CPAN needs to be populated with AI Mind-Modules.
'Artificial Intelligence' is bullshit: Computers are useful because
they're not intelligent, that is, capable of influencing circumstances/
situations for their own benefit, and people who lust for 'inelligent
beings without civil rights' should consider getting professional help,
at least in the parts of the world where slavery has been abolished, so
that they eventually get over that.
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Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2014 19:35:23 +0000
From: Rainer Weikusat <rweikusat@mobileactivedefense.com>
Subject: Re: How did PHP and Python take over such a huge market-share of Perl?
Message-Id: <87y50fb478.fsf@sable.mobileactivedefense.com>
George Mpouras <gravitalsun@hotmail.foo> writes:
[...]
> Also about AI , from my point of view the "eval" function and the
> ability of subroutines to return code brings Perl very close to lisp
One major drawback of Perl compared to Lisp is that there's no
structured representation of Perl code: The only way to generate new
code at run time is to build 'Perl source code strings' and run them
through eval. For the same reason, Perl doesn't have a powerful macro
factility like Lisp.
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Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2014 19:44:08 +0000
From: Rainer Weikusat <rweikusat@mobileactivedefense.com>
Subject: Re: How did PHP and Python take over such a huge market-share of Perl?
Message-Id: <87txb3b3sn.fsf@sable.mobileactivedefense.com>
Kaz Kylheku <kaz@kylheku.com> writes:
> On 2014-03-12, George Mpouras <gravitalsun@hotmail.foo> wrote:
>> Also about AI , from my point of view the "eval" function and the
>> ability of subroutines to return code brings Perl very close to lisp
>
> Yes, in particular close to that Shell dialect of Lisp:
>
> for_pat()
> {
> local var=$1
> local pattern=$2
> local action=$3
>
> echo "for $var in $pattern ; do $action ; done"
> }
>
> eval $(for_pat x '*.pl' 'echo $x')
>
> Now throw in M4 macros and you have wonderful AI, like GNU Autoconf.
I suggest 'artifical, untoward moronity' as term for that: Cannot do
anything useful on its own but is sufficiently bizarre and complex that
it makes a naive observer think of a passively aggressive and seriously
stupid 'intelligent being' (certain popular operating system have
similar characteristics ...).
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Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2014 19:21:06 +0200
From: George Mpouras <gravitalsun@hotmail.foo>
Subject: Re: How did PHP and Python take over such a huge market-share of Perl?
Message-Id: <lfq522$2pre$1@news.ntua.gr>
Στις 12/3/2014 18:43, ο/η mentificium@gmail.com έγραψε:
> Perl has a future in artificial intelligence.
>
> CPAN needs to be populated with AI Mind-Modules.
>
I could tell you many laughable situations where Perl tasks are finished
weeks before the relative of java ones, and Managers scratching their
heads of what is going on : )
Also about AI , from my point of view the "eval" function and the
ability of subroutines to return code brings Perl very close to lisp
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Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2014 19:11:15 +0000 (UTC)
From: Kaz Kylheku <kaz@kylheku.com>
Subject: Re: How did PHP and Python take over such a huge market-share of Perl?
Message-Id: <20140312120042.321@kylheku.com>
On 2014-03-12, George Mpouras <gravitalsun@hotmail.foo> wrote:
> Also about AI , from my point of view the "eval" function and the
> ability of subroutines to return code brings Perl very close to lisp
Yes, in particular close to that Shell dialect of Lisp:
for_pat()
{
local var=$1
local pattern=$2
local action=$3
echo "for $var in $pattern ; do $action ; done"
}
eval $(for_pat x '*.pl' 'echo $x')
Now throw in M4 macros and you have wonderful AI, like GNU Autoconf.
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Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2014 21:44:19 +0200
From: George Mpouras <gravitalsun@hotmail.foo>
Subject: Re: How did PHP and Python take over such a huge market-share of Perl?
Message-Id: <lfqdei$bpb$1@news.ntua.gr>
The only way to generate new
> code at run time is to build 'Perl source code strings' and run them
> through eval.
well ok, but it is powerful
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Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2014 21:15:22 +0100
From: Martijn Lievaart <m@rtij.nl.invlalid>
Subject: Re: How did PHP and Python take over such a huge market-share of Perl?
Message-Id: <qrr6va-ahs.ln1@news.rtij.nl>
On Wed, 12 Mar 2014 19:44:08 +0000, Rainer Weikusat wrote:
> I suggest 'artifical, untoward moronity' as term for that: Cannot do
> anything useful on its own but is sufficiently bizarre and complex that
> it makes a naive observer think of a passively aggressive and seriously
> stupid 'intelligent being' (certain popular operating system have
> similar characteristics ...).
Many humans too :-)
M4
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Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2014 09:32:36 +0200
From: Eric Pozharski <whynot@pozharski.name>
Subject: Re: I would like to know if any Perl Programmer is interested in opportunity with Oracle India, Bangalore, India
Message-Id: <slrnli03ck.jvn.whynot@orphan.zombinet>
with <lfncj4$6jv$1@reader1.panix.com> Tim McDaniel wrote:
> In article <mqauh9t2rns8ofl2h4u2u73q2g9nurg4b4@4ax.com>,
> J_rgen Exner <jurgenex@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>Why are you lying? Charlton wrote only one of those three empty
>>lines.
>
> Oh, come on!
Oh, come on! People get in mood to have a talk with GGers occasionally.
> It's known that Google Groups is now adding empty lines
> in replies for no discernable reason.
When it just started I did some investigation and come up with idea that
that thing, what is GG now, replaces "\r\n" with "\r\n\n". May be
different now. Except that doubling is here forever. May be worse
tomorrow.
*SKIP*
--
Torvalds' goal for Linux is very simple: World Domination
Stallman's goal for GNU is even simpler: Freedom
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Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2014 08:54:15 -0700
From: Brian Helterline <brian.helterline@hp.com>
Subject: Re: Running a script as if it were a Windows executable?
Message-Id: <lfpvv7$h9u$1@usenet01.boi.hp.com>
On 3/9/2014 12:28 PM, Alek Trishan wrote:
> On 3/8/2014 10:26 PM, Jrgen Exner wrote:
>> Alek Trishan <alektrishan@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> I have a perl script that I can run by opening a command window and
>>> typing
>>> perl.exe myscript.pl
>>>
>>> I would like to create an "executable" file (but not a desktop shortcut)
>>> that, when clicked on, would execute that command.
>>
>> Very easy. You just need to associate the file type *.pl with your Perl
>> interpreter. Normally the Setup process for your Perl system will do
>> that automatically.
>> But if the association is broken, then right-click on a *.pl file,
>> select "Open With" and re-create the association to the Perl
>> interpreter.
And if your script doesn't require the cmd window, you can associate it
with wperl.exe (same version of perl but doesn't show the cmd window).
I believe ActivePerl associates .plw files with this by default.
Handy for scripts that just run in the background or scripts that
use Tk (or similar)
>
> Brilliant!!! Thanks so much. :-)
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Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2014 19:28:05 +0200
From: George Mpouras <gravitalsun@hotmail.foo>
Subject: Re: Running a script as if it were a Windows executable?
Message-Id: <lfq5f5$2qsg$1@news.ntua.gr>
Στις 10/3/2014 19:00, ο/η Alek Trishan έγραψε:
> On 3/9/2014 9:04 PM, Scott Bryce wrote:
>> On 3/8/2014 5:23 PM, Alek Trishan wrote:
>>> I have a perl script that I can run by opening a command window and
>>> typing perl.exe myscript.pl
>>>
>>> I would like to create an "executable" file (but not a desktop
>>> shortcut) that, when clicked on, would execute that command.
>>
>> Windows still supports batch files, does it not?
>>
>
> Yes, it does.
>
> However, associating .pl with perl.exe means that I do not need a batch
> file as a workaround.
In case you did not know, if you add the .PL to your %PATHEXT% system
environment e.g.
echo %PATHEXT%
.COM;.EXE;.BAT;.CMD;.VBS;.PL
you can run your "program.pl" by simple issuing program without the
extension !
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