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Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2012 13:09:06 -0700 (PDT)
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Perl-Users Digest           Tue, 23 Oct 2012     Volume: 11 Number: 3801

Today's topics:
    Re: Is Perl dying or not? (Seymour J.)
    Re: Is Perl dying or not? <kw@codebykevin.com>
    Re: Is Perl dying or not? <ignoramus21608@NOSPAM.21608.invalid>
    Re: script help <sssdevelop@gmail.com>
        V8 Googles Javascript Engine with Perl <sssdevelop@gmail.com>
    Re: V8 Googles Javascript Engine with Perl <peter@makholm.net>
        Digest Administrivia (Last modified: 6 Apr 01) (Perl-Users-Digest Admin)

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Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2012 08:10:18 -0500
From: Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz <spamtrap@library.lspace.org.invalid>
Subject: Re: Is Perl dying or not?
Message-Id: <508545ba$11$fuzhry+tra$mr2ice@news.patriot.net>

In <87a9vfzx46.fsf@sapphire.mobileactivedefense.com>, on 10/21/2012
   at 04:02 PM, Rainer Weikusat <rweikusat@mssgmbh.com> said:

>For the kind of problems I need to handle, Perl 6 (or actually any
>other bytecode-based language designed by 'witz kidz' from
>academistan) is DOA: If it can't do deterministic automatic memory
>management and possibly, can't actually manage any resources
>automatically except memory and possibly, can't even do that

Nonsense; the memory management policies in a language don't depend on
whether you compile into machine code or into a byte code that
requires an interpreter; they depend on the defined semantics. A C
compiler that generates correct machine code will have the same warts
as a  correct byte-code compiler for C, although there are certainly
efficiency considerations.

>JVM

That's not the only byte code.

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Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2012 11:08:53 -0400
From: Kevin Walzer <kw@codebykevin.com>
Subject: Re: Is Perl dying or not?
Message-Id: <k63ni3$6nm$1@dont-email.me>

On 10/19/12 10:43 PM, Ignoramus7380 wrote:
> Lately, I have been seeing a lot of evidence that adoption and use
> of perl declines in favor of superficially "easier" languages. The
> number of developers, commits, activity etc seems to be dropping. Even
> this newsgroup seems to be declining faster than Usenet in general.

I can't speak to the relative decline of this newsgroup, but I can say 
that I'm learning Perl precisely because it seems to be actively 
maintained, developed, and supported. I say this as one who has done 
programming in several different languages (Tcl, Python, C/Objective-C, 
AppleScript, a bit of JavaScript). Perl may no longer the TEH SEXY the 
way Ruby is, but I was very disappointed in Ruby's options for building 
and deploying desktop apps (non-existent on the Mac); by contrast, just 
a little bit of dabbling with a simple Perl::Tkx script, pp, and PAR, 
and I had a fully standalone desktop executable ready for deployment.

I'm still getting my head around lots of aspects of Perl, but the 
deployment question was answered with a resounding yes--I'm sold.

--Kevin

-- 
Kevin Walzer
Code by Kevin
http://www.codebykevin.com


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Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2012 20:58:11 -0500
From: Ignoramus21608 <ignoramus21608@NOSPAM.21608.invalid>
Subject: Re: Is Perl dying or not?
Message-Id: <LYGdnbFpl8YuZBjNnZ2dnUVZ_vKdnZ2d@giganews.com>

On 2012-10-20, Randal L. Schwartz <merlyn@stonehenge.com> wrote:
>>>>>> "Ignoramus15392" == Ignoramus15392  <ignoramus15392@NOSPAM.15392.invalid> writes:
>
> Ignoramus15392> The problem is that I already have a bunch of perl stuff
> Ignoramus15392> and I want to make sure that it will continue to run
> Ignoramus15392> years ahead. I also want all latest and greatest stuff
> Ignoramus15392> like imagemagick to continue being supported in perl.
>
> There are more people coding Perl today than there were 15 years ago
> during the dotcom boom "when Perl Ruled the Web".
>
> There is more activity on the CPAN today than there has ever been.
>
> There is more activity on Perl releases today than ever (new minor
> releases every three months!).
>
> Perl 6 is slowly maturing, bringing in a whole new audience.
>
> Perl is alive and well.  More people are using it, every day.  In fact,
> I know employers that cannot *hire* enough Perl programmers for both
> legacy and new projects.  So it's a seller's market if you know Perl.
>
> print "Just another Perl hacker,"; # the original
>

Randal, this is a great answer, I have calmed down a little. 

The "other scripting languages" look like a joke to me, from the
perspective of a long time perl user.

i


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Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2012 08:29:39 -0700 (PDT)
From: SSS Develop <sssdevelop@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: script help
Message-Id: <996c4efb-005c-4e14-9315-aefc99f4f7cd@googlegroups.com>

This is possible - can you please state your exact problem. Try to provide possible input file and expected output file

---sss


On Saturday, 20 October 2012 03:07:03 UTC+5:30, rvae...@gmail.com  wrote:
> I wanted to read a file and select the first 2 characters and if they are 9A or 7A
> 
> I want to zero out columns 18 to 22  and 25 to 29.
> 
> 
> 
> If this can be done in Perl and Bash.
> 
> 
> 
> Can someone assist please. thanks



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Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2012 07:35:07 -0700 (PDT)
From: SSS Develop <sssdevelop@gmail.com>
Subject: V8 Googles Javascript Engine with Perl
Message-Id: <a1a674e8-d09a-46a5-b04e-bf90e2609238@googlegroups.com>

Hello,

Has anyone integrated V8 with Perl? Any pointers? Looking for something similar to htmlunit(http://htmlunit.sourceforge.net/) in Perl

thank you,

---sss


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Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2012 18:41:30 +0200
From: Peter Makholm <peter@makholm.net>
Subject: Re: V8 Googles Javascript Engine with Perl
Message-Id: <87txtmxxvp.fsf@vps1.hacking.dk>

SSS Develop <sssdevelop@gmail.com> writes:

> Has anyone integrated V8 with Perl? Any pointers? Looking for something similar to htmlunit(http://htmlunit.sourceforge.net/) in Perl

Searching on CPAN for V8 will give you this module:

  http://search.cpan.org/dist/JavaScript-V8/

Does not seem to be under really active development, but a relevant
starting point when looking for V8/Perl integration.

//Makholm


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