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Today's topics:
Is Perl dying or not? <ignoramus7380@NOSPAM.7380.invalid>
Re: Is Perl dying or not? <vilain@NOspamcop.net>
Re: Is Perl dying or not? <ignoramus15392@NOSPAM.15392.invalid>
Re: Is Perl dying or not? (Randal L. Schwartz)
Re: Is Perl dying or not? <vilain@NOspamcop.net>
Re: Is Perl dying or not? <vilain@NOspamcop.net>
Re: Is Perl dying or not? <ignoramus15392@NOSPAM.15392.invalid>
Re: Is Perl dying or not? <rweikusat@mssgmbh.com>
script help rvaedex23@gmail.com
Re: script help <ben@morrow.me.uk>
Re: script help <jimsgibson@gmail.com>
Why was suid support dropped in perl? <shrike@cyberspace.org>
Re: Why was suid support dropped in perl? <ben@morrow.me.uk>
Re: Why was suid support dropped in perl? <rweikusat@mssgmbh.com>
Re: Why was suid support dropped in perl? <shrike@cyberspace.org>
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Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2012 21:43:53 -0500
From: Ignoramus7380 <ignoramus7380@NOSPAM.7380.invalid>
Subject: Is Perl dying or not?
Message-Id: <dNydnY1caOF0kh_NnZ2dnUVZ_r-dnZ2d@giganews.com>
Let me first state that I a perl user, since 1996, I have been always
very happy with perl. I have written 1,430 perl scripts and modules. I
am self employed and make most of my income from websites that I wrote
using mod_perl.
So this is not some kind of "perl suxxx" troll. Rather, I want to ask
if perl will continue to be a viable ecosystem. I have a lot invested
in and relying on perl and I have a vested interest in having perl to
be a great platform.
Lately, I have been seeing a lot of evidence that adoption and use
of perl declines in favor of superficially "easier" languages. The
number of developers, commits, activity etc seems to be dropping. Even
this newsgroup seems to be declining faster than Usenet in general.
My question is, should I be concerned by this trend or not?
Ultimately, I do not care super that much that perl is number one
scripting language, only that it continues to be a great platform.
Thanks
i
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Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2012 22:17:42 -0700
From: Michael Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net>
Subject: Re: Is Perl dying or not?
Message-Id: <vilain-060A1E.22174119102012@news.individual.net>
In article <dNydnY1caOF0kh_NnZ2dnUVZ_r-dnZ2d@giganews.com>,
Ignoramus7380 <ignoramus7380@NOSPAM.7380.invalid> wrote:
> Let me first state that I a perl user, since 1996, I have been always
> very happy with perl. I have written 1,430 perl scripts and modules. I
> am self employed and make most of my income from websites that I wrote
> using mod_perl.
>
> So this is not some kind of "perl suxxx" troll. Rather, I want to ask
> if perl will continue to be a viable ecosystem. I have a lot invested
> in and relying on perl and I have a vested interest in having perl to
> be a great platform.
>
> Lately, I have been seeing a lot of evidence that adoption and use
> of perl declines in favor of superficially "easier" languages. The
> number of developers, commits, activity etc seems to be dropping. Even
> this newsgroup seems to be declining faster than Usenet in general.
>
> My question is, should I be concerned by this trend or not?
> Ultimately, I do not care super that much that perl is number one
> scripting language, only that it continues to be a great platform.
>
> Thanks
>
> i
What are you trying to accomplish by posting here? Do you have a
perl-specific problem you're trying to solve (other than venting your
job insecurities)? I've been doing technology since the early 1980s.
I've been through PDP-11s, VAXes, SUNOS, and Solaris. Perl runs on all
these platforms as well as my MacOS X system.
You write Perl for a living. When that ceases to be a viable living,
you'll do something else. What's the problem?
--
DeeDee, don't press that button! DeeDee! NO! Dee...
[I filter all Goggle Groups posts, so any reply may be automatically ignored]
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Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2012 08:45:03 -0500
From: Ignoramus15392 <ignoramus15392@NOSPAM.15392.invalid>
Subject: Re: Is Perl dying or not?
Message-Id: <RPednTwKwvBCNx_NnZ2dnUVZ_qCdnZ2d@giganews.com>
On 2012-10-20, Michael Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net> wrote:
> In article <dNydnY1caOF0kh_NnZ2dnUVZ_r-dnZ2d@giganews.com>,
> Ignoramus7380 <ignoramus7380@NOSPAM.7380.invalid> wrote:
>
>> Let me first state that I a perl user, since 1996, I have been always
>> very happy with perl. I have written 1,430 perl scripts and modules. I
>> am self employed and make most of my income from websites that I wrote
>> using mod_perl.
>>
>> So this is not some kind of "perl suxxx" troll. Rather, I want to ask
>> if perl will continue to be a viable ecosystem. I have a lot invested
>> in and relying on perl and I have a vested interest in having perl to
>> be a great platform.
>>
>> Lately, I have been seeing a lot of evidence that adoption and use
>> of perl declines in favor of superficially "easier" languages. The
>> number of developers, commits, activity etc seems to be dropping. Even
>> this newsgroup seems to be declining faster than Usenet in general.
>>
>> My question is, should I be concerned by this trend or not?
>> Ultimately, I do not care super that much that perl is number one
>> scripting language, only that it continues to be a great platform.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> i
>
> What are you trying to accomplish by posting here? Do you have a
> perl-specific problem you're trying to solve (other than venting your
> job insecurities)? I've been doing technology since the early 1980s.
> I've been through PDP-11s, VAXes, SUNOS, and Solaris. Perl runs on all
> these platforms as well as my MacOS X system.
>
> You write Perl for a living. When that ceases to be a viable living,
> you'll do something else. What's the problem?
>
The problem is that I already have a bunch of perl stuff and I want to
make sure that it will continue to run years ahead. I also want all
latest and greatest stuff like imagemagick to continue being supported
in perl.
i
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Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2012 08:38:02 -0700
From: merlyn@stonehenge.com (Randal L. Schwartz)
Subject: Re: Is Perl dying or not?
Message-Id: <86mwzhw3vp.fsf@red.stonehenge.com>
>>>>> "Ignoramus15392" == Ignoramus15392 <ignoramus15392@NOSPAM.15392.invalid> writes:
Ignoramus15392> The problem is that I already have a bunch of perl stuff
Ignoramus15392> and I want to make sure that it will continue to run
Ignoramus15392> years ahead. I also want all latest and greatest stuff
Ignoramus15392> like imagemagick to continue being supported in perl.
There are more people coding Perl today than there were 15 years ago
during the dotcom boom "when Perl Ruled the Web".
There is more activity on the CPAN today than there has ever been.
There is more activity on Perl releases today than ever (new minor
releases every three months!).
Perl 6 is slowly maturing, bringing in a whole new audience.
Perl is alive and well. More people are using it, every day. In fact,
I know employers that cannot *hire* enough Perl programmers for both
legacy and new projects. So it's a seller's market if you know Perl.
print "Just another Perl hacker,"; # the original
--
Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095
<merlyn@stonehenge.com> <URL:http://www.stonehenge.com/merlyn/>
Smalltalk/Perl/Unix consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc.
See http://methodsandmessages.posterous.com/ for Smalltalk discussion
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Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2012 12:07:22 -0700
From: Michael Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net>
Subject: Re: Is Perl dying or not?
Message-Id: <vilain-0E9F4C.12072220102012@news.individual.net>
In article <RPednTwKwvBCNx_NnZ2dnUVZ_qCdnZ2d@giganews.com>,
Ignoramus15392 <ignoramus15392@NOSPAM.15392.invalid> wrote:
> On 2012-10-20, Michael Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net> wrote:
> > In article <dNydnY1caOF0kh_NnZ2dnUVZ_r-dnZ2d@giganews.com>,
> > Ignoramus7380 <ignoramus7380@NOSPAM.7380.invalid> wrote:
> >
> >> Let me first state that I a perl user, since 1996, I have been always
> >> very happy with perl. I have written 1,430 perl scripts and modules. I
> >> am self employed and make most of my income from websites that I wrote
> >> using mod_perl.
> >>
> >> So this is not some kind of "perl suxxx" troll. Rather, I want to ask
> >> if perl will continue to be a viable ecosystem. I have a lot invested
> >> in and relying on perl and I have a vested interest in having perl to
> >> be a great platform.
> >>
> >> Lately, I have been seeing a lot of evidence that adoption and use
> >> of perl declines in favor of superficially "easier" languages. The
> >> number of developers, commits, activity etc seems to be dropping. Even
> >> this newsgroup seems to be declining faster than Usenet in general.
> >>
> >> My question is, should I be concerned by this trend or not?
> >> Ultimately, I do not care super that much that perl is number one
> >> scripting language, only that it continues to be a great platform.
> >>
> >> Thanks
> >>
> >> i
> >
> > What are you trying to accomplish by posting here? Do you have a
> > perl-specific problem you're trying to solve (other than venting your
> > job insecurities)? I've been doing technology since the early 1980s.
> > I've been through PDP-11s, VAXes, SUNOS, and Solaris. Perl runs on all
> > these platforms as well as my MacOS X system.
> >
> > You write Perl for a living. When that ceases to be a viable living,
> > you'll do something else. What's the problem?
> >
>
> The problem is that I already have a bunch of perl stuff and I want to
> make sure that it will continue to run years ahead. I also want all
> latest and greatest stuff like imagemagick to continue being supported
> in perl.
>
> i
The longer you work the more you'll realize that this sort of thing is a
pipe dream. Eventually the finely wrought system you spent years
writing will be decommissioned when the site or company that's using it
move to another platform. Or the legacy system is mothballed.
Death and taxes are the only things that are permanent. And they both
forms of entropy. And even entropy isn't what it used to be.
Unless you control all aspects of a system, you don't really control
it's growth or change. Learn to dance on shifting sands. Take up
basket weaving or Tibetan sand mandalas.
And write the best, most open-architecture code you can. Until someone
changes something out from under you and you have to do it again. And
again. Be glad you're not pushing a rock up a hill every day.
--
DeeDee, don't press that button! DeeDee! NO! Dee...
[I filter all Goggle Groups posts, so any reply may be automatically ignored]
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Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2012 12:08:35 -0700
From: Michael Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net>
Subject: Re: Is Perl dying or not?
Message-Id: <vilain-754D41.12083520102012@news.individual.net>
In article <86mwzhw3vp.fsf@red.stonehenge.com>,
merlyn@stonehenge.com (Randal L. Schwartz) wrote:
> >>>>> "Ignoramus15392" == Ignoramus15392
> >>>>> "<ignoramus15392@NOSPAM.15392.invalid> writes:
>
> Ignoramus15392> The problem is that I already have a bunch of perl stuff
> Ignoramus15392> and I want to make sure that it will continue to run
> Ignoramus15392> years ahead. I also want all latest and greatest stuff
> Ignoramus15392> like imagemagick to continue being supported in perl.
>
> There are more people coding Perl today than there were 15 years ago
> during the dotcom boom "when Perl Ruled the Web".
>
> There is more activity on the CPAN today than there has ever been.
>
> There is more activity on Perl releases today than ever (new minor
> releases every three months!).
>
> Perl 6 is slowly maturing, bringing in a whole new audience.
>
> Perl is alive and well. More people are using it, every day. In fact,
> I know employers that cannot *hire* enough Perl programmers for both
> legacy and new projects. So it's a seller's market if you know Perl.
>
> print "Just another Perl hacker,"; # the original
Listen to this man. He's been around so many blocks, it's as if he
inspired INCEPTION.
--
DeeDee, don't press that button! DeeDee! NO! Dee...
[I filter all Goggle Groups posts, so any reply may be automatically ignored]
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Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2012 02:50:46 -0500
From: Ignoramus15392 <ignoramus15392@NOSPAM.15392.invalid>
Subject: Re: Is Perl dying or not?
Message-Id: <Fu2dnQLORqbLNB7NnZ2dnUVZ_u6dnZ2d@giganews.com>
On 2012-10-20, Michael Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net> wrote:
> In article <RPednTwKwvBCNx_NnZ2dnUVZ_qCdnZ2d@giganews.com>,
> Ignoramus15392 <ignoramus15392@NOSPAM.15392.invalid> wrote:
>
>> On 2012-10-20, Michael Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net> wrote:
>> > In article <dNydnY1caOF0kh_NnZ2dnUVZ_r-dnZ2d@giganews.com>,
>> > Ignoramus7380 <ignoramus7380@NOSPAM.7380.invalid> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Let me first state that I a perl user, since 1996, I have been always
>> >> very happy with perl. I have written 1,430 perl scripts and modules. I
>> >> am self employed and make most of my income from websites that I wrote
>> >> using mod_perl.
>> >>
>> >> So this is not some kind of "perl suxxx" troll. Rather, I want to ask
>> >> if perl will continue to be a viable ecosystem. I have a lot invested
>> >> in and relying on perl and I have a vested interest in having perl to
>> >> be a great platform.
>> >>
>> >> Lately, I have been seeing a lot of evidence that adoption and use
>> >> of perl declines in favor of superficially "easier" languages. The
>> >> number of developers, commits, activity etc seems to be dropping. Even
>> >> this newsgroup seems to be declining faster than Usenet in general.
>> >>
>> >> My question is, should I be concerned by this trend or not?
>> >> Ultimately, I do not care super that much that perl is number one
>> >> scripting language, only that it continues to be a great platform.
>> >>
>> >> Thanks
>> >>
>> >> i
>> >
>> > What are you trying to accomplish by posting here? Do you have a
>> > perl-specific problem you're trying to solve (other than venting your
>> > job insecurities)? I've been doing technology since the early 1980s.
>> > I've been through PDP-11s, VAXes, SUNOS, and Solaris. Perl runs on all
>> > these platforms as well as my MacOS X system.
>> >
>> > You write Perl for a living. When that ceases to be a viable living,
>> > you'll do something else. What's the problem?
>> >
>>
>> The problem is that I already have a bunch of perl stuff and I want to
>> make sure that it will continue to run years ahead. I also want all
>> latest and greatest stuff like imagemagick to continue being supported
>> in perl.
>>
>> i
>
> The longer you work the more you'll realize that this sort of thing is a
> pipe dream. Eventually the finely wrought system you spent years
> writing will be decommissioned when the site or company that's using it
> move to another platform. Or the legacy system is mothballed.
Well, it is my site and my company.
i ALREADY HAD THIS SORT OF EXPERIENCE When the Safe module was
decommissioned.
> Death and taxes are the only things that are permanent. And they both
> forms of entropy. And even entropy isn't what it used to be.
>
> Unless you control all aspects of a system, you don't really control
> it's growth or change. Learn to dance on shifting sands. Take up
> basket weaving or Tibetan sand mandalas.
>
> And write the best, most open-architecture code you can. Until someone
> changes something out from under you and you have to do it again. And
> again. Be glad you're not pushing a rock up a hill every day.
>
yep
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Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2012 16:02:49 +0100
From: Rainer Weikusat <rweikusat@mssgmbh.com>
Subject: Re: Is Perl dying or not?
Message-Id: <87a9vfzx46.fsf@sapphire.mobileactivedefense.com>
merlyn@stonehenge.com (Randal L. Schwartz) writes:
[...]
> Perl 6 is slowly maturing, bringing in a whole new audience.
For the kind of problems I need to handle, Perl 6 (or actually any
other bytecode-based language designed by 'witz kidz' from
academistan) is DOA: If it can't do deterministic automatic memory
management and possibly, can't actually manage any resources
automatically except memory and possibly, can't even do that (as I've
learnt by painful experience, 'resource leak' is the middle name of
the JVM which leaks just about everything that can be leaked, memory
explicitly included) -- and I'm not going to put a large amount of
effort into code written for language XYZ only to discover that the
planks I needed to build on sink as soon as you leave familiar
waters (and, as usual for 'open source projects' with the errors being
ignored side effects of intentional design descision nobody who
doesn't want to mainain the thing all by itseld can fix) -- I can as
well code in C instead.
'Mark and sweep' garbage collections marks everything which contains
it as "This is a toy for people who enjoy playing around with their
'great ideas' but shrink back from anything resembling actual work
because it bores them. Use at your own risk". Coinicidentally, I
write code which solves completely boring problems but it has do so
reliably: The computer is an infrastructure device and ideally, nobody
would ever notice that it is even there because the only way to do so
is when it fails to work.
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Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2012 14:37:03 -0700 (PDT)
From: rvaedex23@gmail.com
Subject: script help
Message-Id: <0540ec78-bd7a-430a-a6a2-da28e1f14e70@googlegroups.com>
I wanted to read a file and select the first 2 characters and if they are 9A or 7A
I want to zero out columns 18 to 22 and 25 to 29.
If this can be done in Perl and Bash.
Can someone assist please. thanks
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Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2012 23:43:21 +0100
From: Ben Morrow <ben@morrow.me.uk>
Subject: Re: script help
Message-Id: <9l19l9-eeq1.ln1@anubis.morrow.me.uk>
Quoth rvaedex23@gmail.com:
>
> I wanted to read a file and select the first 2 characters and if they
> are 9A or 7A
> I want to zero out columns 18 to 22 and 25 to 29.
What have you tried? I would probably use sysopen/read/write for this,
so
perldoc -f sysopen
perldoc -f sysread
perldoc -f syswrite
perldoc -f substr
Ben
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Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2012 18:05:05 -0700
From: Jim Gibson <jimsgibson@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: script help
Message-Id: <191020121805056924%jimsgibson@gmail.com>
In article <0540ec78-bd7a-430a-a6a2-da28e1f14e70@googlegroups.com>,
<rvaedex23@gmail.com> wrote:
> I wanted to read a file and select the first 2 characters and if they are 9A
> or 7A
> I want to zero out columns 18 to 22 and 25 to 29.
>
> If this can be done in Perl and Bash.
>
> Can someone assist please. thanks
Is your file text or binary? What do you mean by "zero out"?
Assuming that 1) your are talking about ASCII text and 2) the
replacement characters are ASCII '0', here is a short program that
demonstrates testing each line, replacing characters in the line
depending upon what the first two characters are, and printing the
result. If you mean something else, please let us know:
#!/usr/bin/perl
use strict;
use warnings;
while( my $line = <DATA> ) {
if( $line =~ /^[79]A/ ) {
substr($line,18,5) = '00000';
substr($line,25,5) = '00000';
}
print $line;
}
__DATA__
1234566890123456689012345668901234566890
7A34566890123456689012345668901234566890
8234566890123456689012345668901234566890
9A34566890123456689012345668901234566890
x9A34566890123456689012345668901234566890
1234566890123456689012345668901234566890
abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz0123456789
This program uses the magic <DATA> file read operator to read data
lines from the end of the program. In a real program, you would open an
external file using the open function:
open( my $in, '<', $myfile ) or die("Can't open $myfile: $!");
and then use $in in the read operation:
while( my $line = <$in> ) {
You would also want to open a new file:
open( my $out, '>', $newfile ) or
die("Can't open $newfile for writing: $!");
and print to the new file handle instead of system output:
print $out $line;
See if you can put all of that together and write your own program.
Post your program here if you have problems.
Good luck!
--
Jim Gibson
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Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2012 14:19:08 -0700 (PDT)
From: "shrike@cyberspace.org" <shrike@cyberspace.org>
Subject: Why was suid support dropped in perl?
Message-Id: <6304d045-7fef-44fe-b88f-f0e796cafd11@googlegroups.com>
####
From the INSTALL file of 5.16:
suidperl was an optional component of earlier releases of perl. It is no
longer available. Instead, use a tool specifically designed to handle
changes in privileges, such as B<sudo>.
####
I imagine this has busted quite a few sysadmin tools across perls install base. Why the change?
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Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2012 22:41:12 +0100
From: Ben Morrow <ben@morrow.me.uk>
Subject: Re: Why was suid support dropped in perl?
Message-Id: <o0u8l9-ttp1.ln1@anubis.morrow.me.uk>
Quoth "shrike@cyberspace.org" <shrike@cyberspace.org>:
> ####
> From the INSTALL file of 5.16:
> suidperl was an optional component of earlier releases of perl. It is no
> longer available. Instead, use a tool specifically designed to handle
> changes in privileges, such as B<sudo>.
> ####
>
> I imagine this has busted quite a few sysadmin tools across perls
> install base. Why the change?
suidperl has had many security problems over the years, has not been
part of the default install for a long time, and has been explicitly
deprecated in INSTALL since at least 5.10.0. The design of suidperl
requires it to link all of the argument-parsing code of perl itself,
which is rather complicated and not something you want to link into a
vulnerable program if you can help it. In practice using sudo instead is
pretty-much never a problem.
Ben
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Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2012 23:40:39 +0100
From: Rainer Weikusat <rweikusat@mssgmbh.com>
Subject: Re: Why was suid support dropped in perl?
Message-Id: <87d30eytjs.fsf@sapphire.mobileactivedefense.com>
"shrike@cyberspace.org" <shrike@cyberspace.org> writes:
> ####
> From the INSTALL file of 5.16:
> suidperl was an optional component of earlier releases of perl. It is no
> longer available. Instead, use a tool specifically designed to handle
> changes in privileges, such as B<sudo>.
> ####
>
> I imagine this has busted quite a few sysadmin tools across perls
> install base. Why the change?
I do not know who came up with the idea to install the perl
interpeter(!) as setuid-0 program because providing a functionally
equivalent facility in C is so dead easy: Just compile the program
below, install as 'setuid whatever you want to' and all other local
users will be able to execute arbitrary code with the desired
privilege level.
#include <unistd.h>
int main(int argc, char **argv)
{
setuid(geteuid());
execvp(argv[1], argv + 1);
return 0;
}
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Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2012 09:59:11 -0700 (PDT)
From: "shrike@cyberspace.org" <shrike@cyberspace.org>
Subject: Re: Why was suid support dropped in perl?
Message-Id: <72e94f62-b868-4b27-83ac-f1ff9e8b36ce@googlegroups.com>
On Friday, October 19, 2012 5:48:03 PM UTC-4, Ben Morrow wrote:
> Quoth "shrike@cyberspace.org" <shrike@cyberspace.org>:
>=20
> > ####
>=20
> > From the INSTALL file of 5.16:=20
>=20
> > suidperl was an optional component of earlier releases of perl. It is n=
o
>=20
> > longer available. Instead, use a tool specifically designed to handle
>=20
> > changes in privileges, such as B<sudo>.
>=20
> > ####=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > I imagine this has busted quite a few sysadmin tools across perls
>=20
> > install base. Why the change?=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
> suidperl has had many security problems over the years, has not been
>=20
> part of the default install for a long time, and has been explicitly
>=20
> deprecated in INSTALL since at least 5.10.0. The design of suidperl
>=20
> requires it to link all of the argument-parsing code of perl itself,
>=20
> which is rather complicated and not something you want to link into a
>=20
> vulnerable program if you can help it. In practice using sudo instead is
>=20
> pretty-much never a problem.
>=20
>=20
>=20
> Ben
It turns out I have run into such a problem: running a driver written in pe=
rl on a remote host via SSH. Either I turn off the tty requirement for sudo=
on the whole box, or I embed perl. I would much rather make a fifo, fork a=
nd seteuid() down to nobody to isolate privs.=20
In terms of making a redistributable package, if I touch sudo then I have t=
o support sudo, and if I use a cheap wrapper, it looks kludgy. To embed I h=
ave to code in C, and frankly my C leaves something to be desired. Python d=
oes support suid I think, but I'm not adding more interpreters to my box.=
=20
Embedding perl is a pretty tall order just to get a monolithic redistributa=
ble out of the deal. Any other options? =20
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