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Date: 02 Jan 2009 21:15:43 GMT
From: xhoster@gmail.com
Subject: Re: hash table usage questions
Message-Id: <20090102161529.633$Ou@newsreader.com>
Uri Guttman <uri@stemsystems.com> wrote:
> >>>>> "TJM" == Tad J McClellan <tadmc@seesig.invalid> writes:
>
> TJM> freesoft12@gmail.com <freesoft12@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >> 2) I want to remove some of the files from the hash table that don't
> >> match a regular expression (say I am only interested in *.cc files)
> >> a) Is there a smart way to apply this regular expression on the
> >> hash table?
>
> TJM> %h = map /\.cc$/
> TJM> ? ($_, $h{$_})
> TJM> : (),
> TJM> keys %h;
>
> delete @h{ grep !/\.cc$/, keys %h } ;
>
> that's a bit simpler IMO and definitely should be faster. it also uses
> delete with a hash slice which is a combo that should be more well
> known.
If the OP's worry about size is justified, I'd go with this:
/.cc$/ and delete $h{$_} while defined ($_=each %h);
As your method builds two in-memory lists, one with all keys and one with
all keys meeting the criteria.
Xho
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Date: Fri, 02 Jan 2009 17:45:15 -0500
From: Uri Guttman <uri@stemsystems.com>
Subject: Re: hash table usage questions
Message-Id: <x78wpt9vk4.fsf@stemsystems.com>
>>>>> "x" == xhoster <xhoster@gmail.com> writes:
>> delete @h{ grep !/\.cc$/, keys %h } ;
>>
>> that's a bit simpler IMO and definitely should be faster. it also uses
>> delete with a hash slice which is a combo that should be more well
>> known.
x> If the OP's worry about size is justified, I'd go with this:
x> /.cc$/ and delete $h{$_} while defined ($_=each %h);
x> As your method builds two in-memory lists, one with all keys and one with
x> all keys meeting the criteria.
sure that could be faster but it may not be as you think. you make N
calls to delete and calls to each in a loop. perl ops are the major
bottleneck in perl speed. if the slice lists are short enough (and they
could still be pretty long), IMO my solution should be faster. but only
benchmarking can tell for sure. my method does use more ram but ram is
cheaper than speed. :)
uri
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Date: 03 Jan 2009 00:50:43 GMT
From: xhoster@gmail.com
Subject: Re: hash table usage questions
Message-Id: <20090102195029.640$rn@newsreader.com>
Uri Guttman <uri@stemsystems.com> wrote:
> >>>>> "x" == xhoster <xhoster@gmail.com> writes:
>
> >> delete @h{ grep !/\.cc$/, keys %h } ;
> >>
> >> that's a bit simpler IMO and definitely should be faster. it also
> >> uses delete with a hash slice which is a combo that should be more
> >> well known.
>
> x> If the OP's worry about size is justified, I'd go with this:
>
> x> /.cc$/ and delete $h{$_} while defined ($_=each %h);
>
> x> As your method builds two in-memory lists, one with all keys and one
> with x> all keys meeting the criteria.
>
> sure that could be faster but it may not be as you think.
I didn't think it would be faster (and was surprised to find upon trying
it that it was faster). I was specifically referring to size, not speed.
> you make N
> calls to delete and calls to each in a loop. perl ops are the major
> bottleneck in perl speed. if the slice lists are short enough (and they
> could still be pretty long), IMO my solution should be faster. but only
> benchmarking can tell for sure. my method does use more ram but ram is
> cheaper than speed. :)
Running out of RAM you already own can make the speed you already own a
heck of a lot less speedy, and eventually fall over and die.
Xho
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Date: Sat, 03 Jan 2009 00:29:52 -0500
From: Uri Guttman <uri@stemsystems.com>
Subject: Re: hash table usage questions
Message-Id: <x7hc4h7y9b.fsf@stemsystems.com>
>>>>> "x" == xhoster <xhoster@gmail.com> writes:
x> Uri Guttman <uri@stemsystems.com> wrote:
>> >>>>> "x" == xhoster <xhoster@gmail.com> writes:
>>
>> >> delete @h{ grep !/\.cc$/, keys %h } ;
>> >>
>>
x> As your method builds two in-memory lists, one with all keys and one
>> with x> all keys meeting the criteria.
x> Running out of RAM you already own can make the speed you already own a
x> heck of a lot less speedy, and eventually fall over and die.
as always you have to consider data size and growth in your design
decisions. slurping is great for almost all files but there are a know
set where it is bad (logs, biogenetic, etc.). same with slicing vs
looping over the keys. but then dealing with hashes with millions or
more keys is a problem unto itself. the OP was just filtering some files
from a dir listing so i would expect the max amount of ram used in a
slice to be very small. and i like slicing and speed. :)
uri
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Date: Fri, 02 Jan 2009 15:38:46 -0600
From: Ted Zlatanov <tzz@lifelogs.com>
Subject: Re: Is Moose the best for Perl object-oriented programming?
Message-Id: <86wsdd5qxl.fsf@lifelogs.com>
On Fri, 2 Jan 2009 20:40:04 +0000 (UTC) tmcd@panix.com (Tim McDaniel) wrote:
TM> In general, I've generally found it useful to worry first and most
TM> about correctness, and only then consider performance: tweak or
TM> restructure only to the extent that performance is bad.
TM> "Micro-optimization gets micro-results", and
TM> "if it ain't broke, don't fix it", and all that.
The problem with Moose is that if you rely on its features, it may be
very painful to worry about performance later. It's an OO framework,
not an algorithm with clear API entry points. In particular, method
attributes (including data type hints) can be hard to replicate if your
code relies on them to enforce data integrity.
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Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2009 05:42:24 GMT
From: merlyn@stonehenge.com (Randal Schwartz)
Subject: new CPAN modules on Sat Jan 3 2009
Message-Id: <KCvruo.1Az7@zorch.sf-bay.org>
The following modules have recently been added to or updated in the
Comprehensive Perl Archive Network (CPAN). You can install them using the
instructions in the 'perlmodinstall' page included with your Perl
distribution.
Acme-Curses-Marquee-Extensions-0.03
http://search.cpan.org/~jpierce/Acme-Curses-Marquee-Extensions-0.03/
Extensions for Acme::Curses::Marquee
----
Album-1.50_08
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----
Apache2-AuthCAS-0.4
http://search.cpan.org/~jhitt/Apache2-AuthCAS-0.4/
A configurable Apache authentication module that enables you to protect content on an Apache server using an existing JA-SIG CAS authentication server.
----
Bio-Tools-CodonOptTable0.04
http://search.cpan.org/~shardiwal/Bio-Tools-CodonOptTable0.04/
A more elaborative way to check the codons usage.
----
CGI-Session-4.40
http://search.cpan.org/~markstos/CGI-Session-4.40/
persistent session data in CGI applications
----
CHI-0.091
http://search.cpan.org/~jswartz/CHI-0.091/
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----
CPANPLUS-YACSmoke-0.28
http://search.cpan.org/~bingos/CPANPLUS-YACSmoke-0.28/
Yet Another CPANPLUS Smoke Tester
----
Config-Augeas-0.305
http://search.cpan.org/~ddumont/Config-Augeas-0.305/
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----
Curses-1.26
http://search.cpan.org/~giraffed/Curses-1.26/
terminal screen handling and optimization
----
Darcs-Inventory-0.9
http://search.cpan.org/~david/Darcs-Inventory-0.9/
Read and parse a darcs version 1 or 2 inventory file
----
Data-Dump-1.13
http://search.cpan.org/~gaas/Data-Dump-1.13/
Pretty printing of data structures
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Directory-Transactional-0.03
http://search.cpan.org/~nuffin/Directory-Transactional-0.03/
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Email-Send-2.194
http://search.cpan.org/~rjbs/Email-Send-2.194/
Simply Sending Email
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Email-Sender-0.001
http://search.cpan.org/~rjbs/Email-Sender-0.001/
a library for sending email
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File-FindSimilars-2.06
http://search.cpan.org/~suntong/File-FindSimilars-2.06/
Fast similar-files finder
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Geo-Point-0.09
http://search.cpan.org/~markov/Geo-Point-0.09/
a point on the globe
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Gtk2-Ex-Entry-Pango-0.01
http://search.cpan.org/~potyl/Gtk2-Ex-Entry-Pango-0.01/
Gtk2 Entry that accepts Pango markup.
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Gtk2-Ex-Entry-Pango-0.02
http://search.cpan.org/~potyl/Gtk2-Ex-Entry-Pango-0.02/
Gtk2 Entry that accepts Pango markup.
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HTTP-Server-Simple-0.37
http://search.cpan.org/~jesse/HTTP-Server-Simple-0.37/
Lightweight HTTP server
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IO-Moose-0.06
http://search.cpan.org/~dexter/IO-Moose-0.06/
Reimplementation of IO::* with improvements
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KiokuDB-Backend-Files-0.03
http://search.cpan.org/~nuffin/KiokuDB-Backend-Files-0.03/
One file per object backend
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MooseX-Emulate-Class-Accessor-Fast-0.00701
http://search.cpan.org/~groditi/MooseX-Emulate-Class-Accessor-Fast-0.00701/
Emulate Class::Accessor::Fast behavior using Moose attributes
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Net-MRIM-1.10
http://search.cpan.org/~aau/Net-MRIM-1.10/
Perl implementation of mail.ru agent protocol
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Net-SSLGlue-0.2
http://search.cpan.org/~sullr/Net-SSLGlue-0.2/
add/extend SSL support for common perl modules
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Parse-ErrorString-Perl-0.10
http://search.cpan.org/~szabgab/Parse-ErrorString-Perl-0.10/
Parse error messages from the perl interpreter
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Parse-ErrorString-Perl-0.11
http://search.cpan.org/~szabgab/Parse-ErrorString-Perl-0.11/
Parse error messages from the perl interpreter
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Path-Router-0.04
http://search.cpan.org/~hdp/Path-Router-0.04/
A tool for routing paths
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Perl-Critic-Pulp-12
http://search.cpan.org/~kryde/Perl-Critic-Pulp-12/
some add-on perlcritic policies
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Perl6-Cookbook-0.01
http://search.cpan.org/~szabgab/Perl6-Cookbook-0.01/
Examples in Perl 6
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Pod-Perldocs-0.15
http://search.cpan.org/~rkobes/Pod-Perldocs-0.15/
view remote pod via Pod::Perldoc
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Pod-Perldocs-0.16
http://search.cpan.org/~rkobes/Pod-Perldocs-0.16/
view remote pod via Pod::Perldoc
----
SNMP-Map-1.00
http://search.cpan.org/~kasha/SNMP-Map-1.00/
Tool for drawing network map
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TAP-Harness-JUnit-0.26
http://search.cpan.org/~lkundrak/TAP-Harness-JUnit-0.26/
Generate JUnit compatible output from TAP results
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Test-Assert-0.0501
http://search.cpan.org/~dexter/Test-Assert-0.0501/
Assertion methods for those who like JUnit.
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Text-FIGlet-2
http://search.cpan.org/~jpierce/Text-FIGlet-2/
a perl module to provide FIGlet abilities, akin to banner
----
Text-FIGlet-2.01
http://search.cpan.org/~jpierce/Text-FIGlet-2.01/
a perl module to provide FIGlet abilities, akin to banner
----
Tk-Wizard-2.144_bsdtar
http://search.cpan.org/~lgoddard/Tk-Wizard-2.144_bsdtar/
GUI for step-by-step interactive logical process
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Tk-Wizard-2.144_win32_gzip1_3_11
http://search.cpan.org/~lgoddard/Tk-Wizard-2.144_win32_gzip1_3_11/
GUI for step-by-step interactive logical process
----
Tk-Wizard-2.145
http://search.cpan.org/~lgoddard/Tk-Wizard-2.145/
GUI for step-by-step interactive logical process
----
Tk-Wizard-2.146
http://search.cpan.org/~lgoddard/Tk-Wizard-2.146/
GUI for step-by-step interactive logical process
----
Tk-Wizard-2.149
http://search.cpan.org/~lgoddard/Tk-Wizard-2.149/
GUI for step-by-step interactive logical process
----
Tree-AVL-0.02
http://search.cpan.org/~mbeebe/Tree-AVL-0.02/
Perl implemenation of an AVL tree for storing comparable objects
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Tree-AVL-0.03
http://search.cpan.org/~mbeebe/Tree-AVL-0.03/
Perl implemenation of an AVL tree for storing comparable objects
----
VCI-0.5.1
http://search.cpan.org/~mkanat/VCI-0.5.1/
A generic interface for interacting with various version-control systems.
----
Verilog-Perl-3.100
http://search.cpan.org/~wsnyder/Verilog-Perl-3.100/
----
WWW-Contact-0.19
http://search.cpan.org/~fayland/WWW-Contact-0.19/
Get contacts/addressbook from Web
----
WWW-TinySong-0.00_01
http://search.cpan.org/~miorel/WWW-TinySong-0.00_01/
Get free music links using TinySong
----
autodie-1.998
http://search.cpan.org/~pjf/autodie-1.998/
Replace functions with ones that succeed or die with lexical scope
----
p5-WWW-iTunesConnect-1.008
http://search.cpan.org/~bfoz/p5-WWW-iTunesConnect-1.008/
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