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From: evimivf@gmail.com
Subject: M-I'5`Persecut ion ` No Justic e f or t he Vi ctims of MI5
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MI5 Persecution Update:. Friday 11 June, 1999
Harassment in a pub in. Clapham, Tuesday lunchtime
Once a month,. or once every other month, I meet a Polish friends of mine
who lives in Clapham North, and sometimes we go. to a particular pub near
where he lives. The last time was some two months ago; I did. not have my
minidisc-walkman with. me, and consequently was seriously harassed by
people MI5. had instructed to harass me, in the pub.
This Tuesday, 8 June 1999, we again went to the same pub. for a pre-meal
drink.. This time I did have my minidisc-walkman with me. As you can guess,
we were followed into the pub by a. couple of young people (Im getting
older and older - isnt it funny how the. MI5 agents all look young these
days?). They started talking. about my situation, in particular some travel
I had booked the previous day. Unfortunately,. they were talking fairly
quietly, and. my minidisc didnt pick up their speech.
MI5s schizophrenic reasoning is that simultaneously. I am very important
and worthy of their. acts of persecution, and I am also totally unimportant
and their abuse of me "doesnt. matter". Perhaps they should test their
agents and managers for obsessive. personalities or psychotic features in
the same way as. employees are drug-tested. MI5 might lose their "worst
cases" employees if some psychological testing. were applied to their
recruitment. procedure.
Toothless Watchdogs.. What a Surprise.
Recently I have. been engaging in communications with two watchdogs, the
Security Service Tribunal which deals with complaints against the. security
service (and always clears MI5 of. any wrongdoing), and the Data Protection
Registrar, which. is mandated to investigate misuse of personal data held
on. computer.
In a letter to Nick Brooks, Security Service Tribunal secretary,. dated 20
April,. I asked him if the Tribunal, as an allegedly independent body, had
the means to investigate complaints against MI5 other. than asking MI5 to
themselves investigate complaints. To my disappointment, his. reply two
weeks later answered the question only indirectly, in. the
negative. Whatever the reader might think of the. merits of the case I have
been putting before you in faxed articles this last year. and half, you
will surely recognise that it is a. significant anomaly for the Tribunal to
have no independent means. of investigating complaints, particularly given
the view expressed. even by previous home secretaries that the security
services are. untrustworthy.
MI5 Persecution: No Justice for the Victims. of MI5
In. a previous article I detailed the similarities between the current MI5
Persecution in England, and other. historical instances of similar
persecution, notably that by the Nazi. Germans in the thirties and
forties. The Germans persecuted first the mentally ill, the. epileptics and
those suffering from schizophrenia, then moved. on to racial groups; in
todays Britain the persecution is again directed. at those with mental
illness, which the. British in their cowardice find easier than taking on
racial groups as the Germans did. But just as in Thirties. Germany there
was no recourse against. a malign and omnipotent state, so the MI5 Secret
Police in the modern British Fascist State allow no. justice for their
victims.
No Recourse Against the. Security Services Illegal Harassment
It has become apparent to. me over the last nine years just how loaded the
dice are in todays Britain, a. fundamentally fascist country which
masquerades as. a democracy. Britain is a democracy in name only; the
Establishment, the defence. and MI5 secret police are always there,
regardless of which party has been voted into power most recently. - and
from "New Labours" conduct in office one finds it difficult to tell. them
apart from Old Tories, in their crackdowns on the. sick and vulnerable in
society.
In thirties Germany the victims of. the Nazi regime had no legal recourse
against their State. oppressors; and in todays Fascist British state, the
victims of. the Establishment and its MI5 Secret Police similarly have no
recourse. against the illegal state-funded and organised oppression. There
is supposed. to be a mechanism for dealing with MI5 crimes, in the shape of
the Security Service Tribunal and Commissioner; yet these have. never found
favour of a plaintiff. One might as. well ask the Nazi SS to investigate
crimes against epileptics or Jews as. ask the Security Service Tribunal to
investigate MI5 crimes against. British citizens; it is quite obvious what
the answer is going to. be, regardless of what you say to them, and what
evidence you provide. The Tribunal and. Commissioner are a mere formality,
a whitewashing body to. give the Secret Services a veneer beneath which
they hide. their shabby criminality.
"Institutional Racism" and. Bigotry in the Metropolitan Police
The recent inquiry. into the racist murder of Stephen Lawrence found clear
evidence. of systematic and deliberate racism in the Metropolitan Police,
which cannot have surprised anyone. Commissioner Sir. Paul Condon accepted
a somewhat lukewarm. definition of institutional racism as being
"unconscious". In truth,. and this truth must surely be obvious to anyone
who. has any familiarity or encountered the great British police, the Met
has not just "unconscious" racism, but very. clearly "conscious" and
deliberate racism, of the kind. that would have done Thirties Germans
proud. And it. is a bastion of such open racism - when many other parts of
society are learning to live in a multicultural environment, the. Met is
still living in the past in its attitude to the. minorities.
But. in addition to the systematic racism confirmed by the Lawrence
inquiry, there is also. something much more relevant to this case, which is
systematic. police bigotry against the physically and mentally disabled,
which I personally have experienced in my dealings with the police. over
the years. You cannot expect equal treatment if you. are mentally
disabled. I tried to make a complaint to the police in 1995. about the
harassment. I had been subjected to for several years. As soon as they
found out I had mental illness, they refused to even talk to. me. I tried
again in March 1999; the police made. various threats to me, while ranting
about "your paranoid rubbish" in reference. to the complaints expressed to
them.
The police refusal to do the job. they are employed and paid to do is
extremely serious, particularly as. this case is highly important, indeed
key to the whole. issue of British self-perception at the end of the 20th
century and the beginning of the 21st century.. Britain has lost much in
the last fifty years - it has lost an empire, it. has lost its self-respect
and its identity as. a people. If the MI5 persecution finally makes it into
the light and. the Security Services are seen for the rather cheap bullies
their behaviour. indicates, it will have a massive and harmful effect on
British. self-perception in the new century.
Security Service Tribunal . - Blatant Whitewashing
A few weeks ago I spoke on the phone to. Nick Brooks, the Secretary of the
Security Service. Tribunal, which is supposed to deal with cases of MI5
transgression. I. asked him if the Tribunal had ever found in favour of a
plaintiff and against the Security Service. He answered that as. far as he
knew,. it had not.
I also asked Mr Brooks if the Tribunal had any means of. investigating
allegations. of criminal activity by MI5, other than asking MI5 themselves
if they had engaged. in such activity. His rather circuitous written reply
states that the 1989 Security Service Act. provides that "it shall be the
duty of every member. of the Service to disclose or give to the Tribunal
such documents or information as they may require. for the purpose of
enabling them to carry out their. functions under this Act". Which is a
very round-about way of saying - "No". - the Tribunal has no way of
investigating MI5 crimes - None At. All.
Setting up the S.S. Tribunal, and creating a. Security Service
Commissioner, was really an act. of falsehood by the government. It is
generally recognised. that MI5 are out of reach of the normal criminal
justice system - the police,. as we have seen, have no intesot answer to
the. government; in a previous article I quoted Roy Jenkins speaking of "a
secretive atmosphere.... secretive vis-a-vis the government. as well as
[enemies]", and a "lack of frankness". from MI5.
If the government. wanted to, it could reform the secret services and
ensure they acted in conformance. with the laws which have been enacted for
them in the last ten years.. But apparently the present government does not
see any need to ensure security service compliance with the law.. As noted
above, the regulatory machinery for MI5. is deliberately weak; the Tribunal
has. no independent means of investigation, and it is simply a waste of
time complaining. to the Tribunal or Commissioner.
Every. so often, fresh revelations come to light of secret service
transgressions. We have heard from Shayler that. MI5 bugged Jack Straw and
Peter Mandelson; we have heard. from Peter Wright that MI5 plotted to see
Wilson ejected. from office; yet so closed is the system of government that
the law is. never enforced against MI5 when they "bug and burgle" everyone
from politicians to ordinary. citizens.
No. Justice from the Legal System, either
Britain has a civil. and criminal justice system which effectively limits
many complaints. from being heard. For a civil complaint to be brought
before. a court, you need a solicitor willing to act on your
behalf. Supposedly it is. possible to represent yourself as a
Litigant-in-Pthe basis. of being "frivolous and vexatious" or "disclosing
no cause for action in law". This is exactly what happened. to me in 1997
when I twice tried to take the BBC. to court for spying on me in my living
room at home; my case was twice struck out,. and on the second occasion an
order was made against me that I could not bring. further civil litigation
against the BBC without leave of the. court.
As the reader can guess it is quite. impossible for a person with
schizophrenia,. who complains about the secret services and media
interfering in his life, to find a solicitor willing to. represent him in
legal action against the persecutors. I have quite a lot of. evidence of
the continuing persecution which. I have posted on the website, even if the
evidence is quite tentative and. perhaps open to varying
interpretations. But I have tried several firms of solicitors; some. of
them have acted unprofessionally and. abused me; all of them have refused
to. represent me. My psychiatrist gave me the name of the firm of Bindman
and. Partners in central London, and I have approached them twice. On each
occasion they refused to. accept my instructions. Plainly the problem with
Bindmans,. which they have admitted, is their bigotry against mentally
disabled people; yet this. is not just something that is wrong with
Bindmans, it is something that is wrong. with the legal system as a whole,
since the legal system necessitates finding a solicitor. willing to
represent you in order to bring a case to court, but it does not. have a
mechanism for providing a lawyer in the case where no solicitor is. willing
to take on your case. So the. British legal system is such as to prevent
cases such as mine from ever receiving an airing in a. court.
So much for the civil courts. But the criminal justice system. is no
better. Two years ago the Protection from Harassment Act came. into
force. But again, while the. Act is all very well on paper, in practice it
is unenforceable in my case, since. it would require Police action to see
the law implemented, and if the police cannot even. be trusted to conduct a
murder investigation competently (in the Lawrence case),. then what chance
is. there of their investigating complaints against the Security
Service? Of course, it would be possible for me to personally. issue
proceedings through a private prosecution either against. MI5 themselves,
or against one or more of their media. tools; but here we see the same
problems. as with the civil courts, because first of all I would have to
find a lawyer willing to act. on my behalf. Litigants-in-person do exist in
the criminal courts, but the Attorney General can bring such a. prosecution
to an end by taking it. over and entering a plea of "nolle prossequi"; and
I suspect that if I were to. bring a private prosecution against either MI5
or one of their media tools,. then this is exactly what would happen.
So much for British justice. But if. anything the wrongs that have been
perpetrated on me by the British justice system are quite mild to. what
others. have suffered. Others have been wrongly convicted based on police
evasions and lies, and spent many years in jail. based on false charges. I
should count myself. lucky that despite the best efforts of the MI5 secret
police, I have not. acquired any criminal charges or convictions; which
shows that for. all their resources and influence, and the clear
imperfections in the British legal. system, there are still limits on how
much subversion MI5. can achieve.
The latest in. a long line of injustices
A comment I heard during. the recent scandal of the police mishandling of
the Lawrence murder investigation is. that "its not as if the police
themselves murdered him". This is. not a particularly wise statement to
make about the case,. since it could be argued that the four alleged
murderers were aided in their crime by the expectation that the. police
would deliberately botch the investigation - which of course is. exactly
what the police. did.
But in my case, this would be a completely inaccurate. thing to say - since
the MI5 secret-police have expressly. been trying to nine years now to see
an end put. to my life, either by having me incarcerated and my liberty
ended, or by forcing self-termination on me. It is exactly as. if the
secret police "themselves murdered [me]", since that is. what their aim is
in. their campaign against me.
The public. has heard of instances of police mishandling of cases, of
police. manufacturing evidence, lying in court, extracting false
confessions to clear up. crimes, et cetera. Various instances of
extra-legal activity by the secret. services have also come to light in the
last few years. The unhappy truth. is that what MI5 have been doing to me
for the last nine years. is really nothing out of the ordinary for them. To
me it seems unbelievable that this sort of systematic campaign. of
harassment, which thousands. and thousands of people in this country and
abroad are well aware of, could exist for. such a long period of time with
the media maintaining. "omerta". But my case is not the first such instance
of persecution by the "British secret police", and. judging by the lack of
any real controls on MI5, I very much. doubt it will be the last.
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Date: Tue, 1 Jan 2008 09:45:19 +0000 (UTC)
From: vfmevm@gmail.com
Subject: M-I,5.Perse cution - cost of the operati on
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Here's what a couple of other people on Usenet (uk.misc) had to. say
regarding the cost. of running such an operation...
PO: >Have some sense, grow up. and smell reality. What you are talking about
PO: >would take loads of planning, tens of thousands of pounds and. lots of
PO: >people involved. in the planning, execution and maintenance of it. You
PO: >must have a very high opinion of yourself to think you are. worth it.
PM: >But. why? And why you? Do you realize how much it would cost to keep
PM: >one person under continuous. surveillance for five years? Think about
PM: >all the man/hours. Say they. _just_ allocated a two man team and a
PM:. >supervisor. OK., Supervisor's salary, say, #30,000 a year. Two men,
PM: >#20,000 a year each. But. they'd need to work in shifts -- so it would
PM: >be six men at #20,000 (which with on-costs would work. out at more like
PM: >#30,000 to the. employer.)
PM:. >
PM: >So, we're talking. #30,000 x 6. #180,000. plus say, #40,000 for the
PM: >supervisor. #220,000. Then you've got the hardware involved.. And
PM: >any transcription that needs doing. You don't think. the 'Big Boss'
PM: >would listen. to hours and hours of tapes, do you.
PM:. >
PM: >So, all in all, you couldn't actually do. the job for much less than
PM: >a quarter million a year. Over five years. What are you doing that. makes
PM: >it worth the while of the state to spend over one and a quarter. million
PM: >on. you?
Those are pretty much the sort of calculations that went through. my head
once I stopped to consider what it must be. costing them to run this
operation. The partial answer is,. there have been periods when the
intensity. has been greater, and times when little has happened. In fact,
for. much of 1993 and the first half of 1994, very little happened. Although
I. don't think that was for reasons of money - if they can tap into the
taxpayer they're not going to be short of resources,. are they?
The more complete answer is in the enormity of what. they're doing. Relative
to the cost to British pride of seeing their country humiliated. for the
persecution of their own citizens, isn't is worth the. cost of four or five
people to try. to bring things to a close in the manner they would wish? To
the government a million or. two is quite honestly nothing - if they can
convince themselves of the necessity of what. they're doing, resources will
not be the limiting. factor.
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Date: Tue, 1 Jan 2008 08:52:51 +0000 (UTC)
From: mimvev@gmail.com
Subject: M-I,5`Persecu tion ` buggi ng an d counter-surveillan ce
Message-Id: <nc0800010852501358@4ax.com>
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PO: >Did. you ever look for the bugs in your house ? If not, why not ? I mean if
PO: >I thought that was happening. to me, I'd search the place from top to bottom,
PO: >I mean. I live there I would know if anything was out of place. If I was
PO: >really suspicious, I would call in one of those bug detection. teams which
PO: >have those machines that pick up the transmitted radio. waves. This
PO:. >reminds me of BUGS, that new programme on BBC1 on
That's exactly what we did. We went to. a competent, professional detective
agency in London, paid them over 400 quid to debug our house.. They used
scanner devices which go to over 1. GHz and would pick up any nearby
transmitter in that range, they also checked. the phones and found
nothing... but if the tap was at the exchange, then. they wouldn't find
anything,. would they?
CS: >Doesn't this suggest. to you that there are, in fact, no bugs to be found?
You can assume that they've done this sort of. thing to other people in more
"serious" cases, where they would know the targets. would suspect the
presence of electronic. surveillance. So they will have developed techniques
and devices which are not readily detectable either by. visual inspection or
by. electronic means. What those techniques might be, I couldn't guess.
In this case,. the existence of bugging devices was clear from the
beginning, and they "rubbed it in" with what was said by. the boy on the
coach. It was almost. as if they wanted counter-surveillance people to be
called in, who they knew. would fail to detect the bugging devices, causing
loss of credibility to the other things I would have. to say relating to the
harassment.
I did all the things someone in my situation would do to try. to find the
bugs. In addition to calling in professional help using. electronic
counter-surveillance, I made a close. visual inspection of electrical
equipment, plus any points where audio or video. surveillance devices might
have been concealed. Of course, I found nothing.. Normal surveillance
"mini-cameras" are quite noticeable. and require visible supporting
circuitry. It seems to me the best place to. put a small video surveillance
device. would be additional to a piece of electronic equipment such as a TV
or video. It would be necessary to physically break in to a property. to fit
such a. device.
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Date: Tue, 1 Jan 2008 12:13:07 +0000 (UTC)
From: eieimemiv@gmail.com
Subject: M-I,5`Persecution ` B ernard Levin expre sses hi s vie ws
Message-Id: <up0800011213064069@4ax.com>
The article of which part. is reproduced below was penned by Bernard Levin
for the. Features section of the Times on 21 September 1991. To my mind, it
described the situation at the time and in particular a recent. meeting with
a friend, during which I for the first time admitted to someone. other than
my GP that I had. been subjected to a conspiracy of harassment over the
previous year. and a half.
>There is a madman running loose about. London, called David Campbell; I have
>no reason to believe. that he is violent, but he should certainly be
>approached with caution. You may. know him by the curious glitter in his
>eyes and a persistent. trembling of his hands; if that does not suffice, you
>will find him attempting to thrust no fewer than 48 books. into your arms,
>all hardbacks, with a promise that, if you should return to the. same
>meeting-place next year, he will heave. another 80 at you.
>
>If, by now, the police have arrived and are keeping a close watch on. him,
>you may. feel sufficiently emboldened to examine the books. The jackets are
>a. model of uncluttered typography, elegantly and simply laid out; there is
>an unobtrusive colophon of. a rising sun, probably not picked at random.
>Gaining confidence - the lunatic is smiling by now, and. the policemen, who
>know about such things, have. significantly removed their helmets - you
>could do. worse than take the jacket off the first book in the pile. The
>only. word possible to describe the binding is sumptuous; real cloth in a
>glorious shade of dark green, with the title and author in black. and gold
>on. the spine.
>
>Look at it more closely; your eyes do not deceive you - it truly does. have
>real top-bands and tail-bands, in yellow,. and, for good measure, a silk
>marker ribbon in a lighter green. The. paper is cream-wove and acid-free,
>and the book is sewn,. not glued.
>
>Throughout the encounter, I. should have mentioned, our loony has been
>chattering away, although what he. is trying to say is almost impossible to
>understand; after a time, however, he becomes sufficiently coherent to. make
>clear that he. is trying to sell the books to you. Well, now, such quality
>in. bookmaking today can only be for collectors' limited editions at a
>fearsome price -. #30, #40, #50?
>
>No, no, he. says, the glitter more powerful than ever and the trembling of
>his hands rapidly. spreading throughout his entire body; no, no - the books
>are priced variously at. #7, #8 or #9, with the top price #12.
>
>At this, the policemen understandably put their helmets. back on; one of
>them draws his truncheon and the. other can be heard summoning
>reinforcements on his walkie-talkie. The madman. bursts into tears, and
>swears it is all. true.
>
>And. it is.
>
>David Campbell has. acquired the entire rights to the whole of the
>Everyman's. Library, which died a lingering and shameful death a decade or
>so ago, and he proposes to start it. all over again - 48 volumes this
>September. and 80 more next year, in editions I have described, at the
>prices specified.. He proposes to launch his amazing venture simultaneously
>in Britain and the. United States, with the massive firepower of Random
>Century at his back in this country, and the dashing cavalry of. Knopf
>across the water, and no. one who loves literature and courage will forbear
>to. cheer.
At the time this article was written I had believed for. some time that
columnists in the Times and. other journalists had been making references to
my situation. Nothing. unusual about this you may think, plenty of people
have the same sort of ideas. and obviously the papers aren't writing about
them, so why should my beliefs not be as false. as those of others?
What makes this article. so extraordinary is that three or four days
immediately preceding its publication, I had a meeting with. a friend,
during the course of. which we discussed the media persecution, and in
particular that by Times columnists. It seemed to. me, reading the article
by Levin in Saturday’s. paper, that he was describing in some detail his
"artist’s impression" of that. meeting. Most telling are the final
sentences, when. he writes, "The madman bursts into tears, and swears it is
all true. And it is." Although I did not "burst into tears" (he. seems to be
using a bit of. poetic licence and exaggerating) I did try hard to convince
my friend that it was all true; and. I am able to concur with Mr Levin,
because, of. course, it is.
At the beginning of the piece Levin reveals a. fear of being attacked by the
"irrational" subject of his. story, saying "I have no reason to believe that
he is violent, but. he should certainly be approached with caution". This
goes back. to the xenophobic propaganda of "defence" against a "threat"
which was seen at the very beginning of the harassment. The impression. of a
"madman running loose" who needs to be controlled through. an agency which
assigns to itself the mantle. of the "police" is also one which had been
expressed. elsewhere.
In the. final paragraph of this extract, his reference to Everyman’s Library
as having "died a lingering and shameful death a decade or. so ago" shows
clearly what sort of conclusion. they wish to their campaign. They want a
permanent solution,. and as they are prevented from achieving that solution
directly, they waste significant resources on. methods which have been
repeatedly shown to be. ineffective for such a purpose.
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Date: Tue, 1 Jan 2008 13:31:44 +0000 (UTC)
From: mimimimfv@gmail.com
Subject: M.I 5.Per secution - why won 't t he Bri tish po lice do t heir jo b an d put a sto p to it ?
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The British police obviously do know what is taking. place. Besides my
interpretations. of what individual officers have said which forces that
conclusion, it would be. inconceivable for them to be unaware of something
on. this scale.
If they know, then they will know that the abusers have broken laws in. the
UK. and abroad. Recently the UK introduced laws against electronic spying
which carry a penalty of. several years jail if caught. If the police know
illegal harassment is taking place, and do nothing about. it, then they are
failing. in their responsibilities.
Last Easter (1995) I went into the local police station in London. and spoke
to an. officer about the harassment against me. But I couldn't provide
tangible evidence; what people said, in. many cases years ago, is beyond
proof,. and without something to support my statements I cannot expect a
police. officer to take the complaint seriously.
The current. situation with regard to the police is not one which allows a
breakthrough in dealing with. the problem. On the one hand, most individual
officers at a local police station. may not know about the ongoing assaults,
so a complaint at that level will. not yield results. Yet the police as an
organisation do know of the harassment, and they. must be aware that a
complaint has been made at. a police station. So it is clearly their duty to
take preventative. action against the continuing molestation, but because
the criminals are operating. on behalf of a state agency, the police are not
carrying out their. duty.
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Date: 31 Dec 2007 12:17:37 GMT
From: ifime@hotmail.com
Subject: M.I'5-Persecution - 22,5 44 + 8 37 = 23,3 81
Message-Id: <or0711311217348409@4ax.com>
MI5 Persecution Update:. Friday 7 April, 2000
22,544 +. 837 = 23,381
Last weekend I delivered another 837 faxes. to politicians and the media on
the subject of the security service conspiracy which has destroyed. my
life. This brings the total in the last three. years to at least
23,381. These totals do not include. partially delivered faxes.
Some of the recipients of these faxes must know that. what I say is
true; and I hope to motivate those people to acknowledge the reality. of
the. harassment which has followed me for ten years. It takes much time to
transmit these. articles, but as OCG MD Simpson-Wells said to me in 1992,
you. have to be a good communicator if you are to succeeed.
Harassment in February. 2000
Following. a quiet period of almost five months, the persecution resumed
with a vengeance in late January/February 2000. At this. time I was at home
in. Clapham, London and was a relatively easy target for the
persecutors. They have my. house bugged, for audio and I believe video in
some. rooms as well; so they can find out easily where I will be going on a
particular day, and place people in. that location to mouth words of abuse
at me. (I know the last sentence sounds like classic paranoia,. but it
happens to be true,. and some of the people reading this know it to be
true.)
On Friday 11 February 2000 I went. shopping in Croydon, to buy a watch at
H. Samuels jewellers in the Whitgift. Centre. While I was there two youths
came into the shop, one of them. quietly uttered an obscenity at me, and
they immediately. walked out. They showed no interest in the shop.
That Sunday I met with a friend in Clapham, who started needling me. about
"do you know anything about the CIA and FBI?". Rather unsubtle,. and
worrying considering Ive known this guy for. 20 years. From the words and
demeanour of this "friend" and. others in February, I saw that the
persecutors have again been trying. to separate from me what remains of my
social. life.
Incidents in my Road in. February
MI5 very rarely place people in my home. road to harass me, but such was
their. persecutory fervour in February that they did so on three separate
occasions. On. the first such occasion, I was met my two youths who,
grinning, said a deeply offensive sexual obscenity. at me - at which I
coughed at them, so. they called me a "wanker". This incident is safely
recorded. on minidisc-walkman, but because of the offensive nature of their
abuse the recording will. not be made public.
Another incident very. early in the morning of Sunday 20/Feb/2000 occurred
outside. my home, following an evening in Croydon with some
schoolfriends. Again there were two youths -. for some reason the
persecutors always. travel in twos or threes, very rarely is there just one
of them - perhaps they need a group to bolster their courage, perhaps. just
one of them wouldnt have the guts to. say something unpleasant. One of the
youths said. quietly, and bitterly, "shitty, very shitty".
Anyway,. in March there were no further incidents near my house in in my
road, and our neighbours are very well disposed towards us,. so let us hope
that the current quiet. continues.
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Date: Tue, 1 Jan 2008 15:09:59 +0000 (UTC)
From: vefmf@gmail.com
Subject: M.I'5.Perse cution ` purp ose in publicizing i t; censors hip in uk .* newsg roups
Message-Id: <cp0800011509585229@4ax.com>
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-= purpose in publicizing it;. censorship in uk.* newsgroups -=
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The postings to. uk.misc newsgroup generated a very defensive reaction from
Usenet readers in the UK. So much so, that they. tried strenuously to
suppress what was. being said, both by breaking the rules of netiquette in
their responses on the. forum, and directly by action to revoke the account
from which. the postings were issued.
Yet the postings were within the. normal boundaries of behaviour for
uk.misc, and other less partisan. spectators did not see justice in the
censorship which was effected,. as the following excerpt shows;
:Karen Lofstrom (lofstrom@lava.net). wrote
:>It does. seem that the frequency and the size of his posts are
:>approaching net abuse. However, IMHO, they aren't quite. there yet. If
:>his. postmaster were to act in this instance, it would raise troubling
:>censorship. issues.
The inescapable conclusion of the censorship effected on. the uk.*
newsgroups. is that the British are intent on their wrongdoing remaining
concealed, and. therefore seek to subvert and suppress freedom of speech,
not. only in their own country where the media shows xenophobic bias and
bile against all perceived enemies within and without, but. also in other
countries which have their own statutes to. guarantee the basic human right
of free. speech.
It is absolutely necessary to bring their hate campaign. out into the open
where it can be placed under scrutiny. and the harassers seen for what they
are. That is the only way of making. it impossible for the security services
to carry it out. There is. a wider dimension, though. Xenophobia as
demonstrated. by British people and institutions over the last few years
belongs to the same stable as racial hatred. In one case, two youths on. a
Tube train made that racism explicit by referring to their victim. as a
"soft toy, not up to British Standards". Doubtless. others victimize partly
on the basis of race (isn’t it odd that. they chose to torment someone who
is not. ethnically English?) while expressing their abuse in terms of
another genetic. attribute, namely mental illness. All xenophobia on a
genetic basis is wrong, but while racial. insults are illegal, abusing the
mentally ill is neither against the law nor subject to similar. condemnation
when it is. exposed.
5203
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Date: Tue, 1 Jan 2008 10:42:49 +0000 (UTC)
From: vivfivm@gmail.com
Subject: M`I'5`Per secution . ho w a nd wh y did it start?
Message-Id: <mz0800011042484009@4ax.com>
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-= how and why. did it start? -=
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The harassment didn't start by itself, so someone must have been there. at
the outset to give it a firm push. and set the "animals" after me. It looks
as if I was set up. in June 1990, and the timing indicates someone from
university. was responsible.
>One thing which has been missing from. this discussion is this simple
>prognosis: that maybe he is. right and that, despite his admitted
>mental condition, there really. is a campaign against him organised by
>now-influential ex-students of. his university.
In May or June 1990, Alan Freeman on Radio 1 read out a letter from. someone
who. had known me for a few years, who wrote of the one who "wore out his
welcome with random precision" (from the Pink. Floyd song). Freeman went on
to say to the writer "that's a hell of a letter you wrote. there". The
indication is strongly that people I had parted. from soon before nursed a
grudge against me and were trying to cause trouble. for me.
The suggestion is that Freeman might have shown the letter. to other people,
and things could. have snowballed from there. Right from the start the real
source (security services presumed). didn't announce themselves as the
origin, but let the "talkers", the radio DJs, believe. that they were the
originators. Think about it; if you. announce, "we're MI5 and we have a
campaign against this bloke" then people might not go along. with it; but if
you say, "everyone else. is getting at this bloke because he 'deserves' it"
then people will. join in with fewer qualms.
>Why would "they" wish to. assassinate your character?
It's the classic case of hitting a cripple to prove you're. stronger. Why
would the security services expend hundreds of. thousands of pounds and more
than six years of manpower to try to. kill a British citizen? Because they
are motivated by people who. knew me at university and feel personal
animosity;. because they knew me to be emotionally weak, and it is in the
nature of bullies to. prey on those known to be weak; and because they can
rely on the complicity of the establishment,. which the security services
manipulate and derive funding from. This is England's. biggest humiliation
today, and the. British security services are intent on preventing their
humiliation becoming reality by. continuing their campaign of attempted
murder. to suppress the truth from becoming public.
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Date: Tue, 01 Jan 2008 14:28:26 +0100
From: Gunnar Hjalmarsson <noreply@gunnar.cc>
Subject: Re: Multiple File upload
Message-Id: <5tutfqF1f143hU1@mid.individual.net>
vijay@iavian.com wrote:
> How do i upload multiple files with the same name and handle it using
> cgi-lib?
Unless somebody is inclined to give you a history lesson on cgi-lib.pl,
the Perl 5 module CGI::UploadEasy (with CGI.pm behind the scenes) will
probably do what you need.
--
Gunnar Hjalmarsson
Email: http://www.gunnar.cc/cgi-bin/contact.pl
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Date: Tue, 1 Jan 2008 13:02:09 -0800 (PST)
From: pajas@matfyz.cz
Subject: Re: Need Help: LibXML + LWP::Simple Is Making Perl Crash
Message-Id: <55b0e100-897f-41dd-99fa-325a7edcba02@x69g2000hsx.googlegroups.com>
Hi Ivan, Jeff ,Todd,
XML::LibXML has a maintainer (me), so if you see something like this,
you better report it via rt.cpan.org than cry on usnet forums. Anyway,
I can confirm this problem exists with version 1.65 and earlier, but
in the SVN, it has been already fixed (due to somebody else's
report).
And by the way, the problem with the example code is that you do not
create a document node first. Make it
my $doc =3D XML::LibXML::Document->new;
$doc->createElement(...)
and things will start to work with 1.65 too.
Please wait for the next release or refer to
http://search.cpan.org/src/PAJAS/XML-LibXML-1.65/README
on how to install from SVN (the README assumes POSIX-like environment,
I fear it may be a bit trickier on windows).
-- Petr
Todd Wade wrote:
> On Dec 26, 12:30=EF=BF=BDam, Ivan Novick <i...@0x4849.net> wrote:
> > On Dec 25, 8:24 pm, "Jeff.M" <Mott.J...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > I've been getting a very weird bug. No error message. perl simply
> > > crashes.
> >
> > There are clearly issues/bugs with XML::LibXML.
> >
> > I have run your program via valgrind memory profiler on a debian
> > system with perl 5.8 and there are numerous illegal memory usages
> > coming from the LibXML library.
> > ...
> > I would recommend using another module for XML handling and submitting
> > a bug to the maintainer of this package.
>
> Wow. XML::LibXML is broken? Bummer.
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.perl.misc/tree/browse_frm/thread/=
fa29dd5a61b99bbd/e91364d8f1816315
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