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M I.5'Pe rsecution ' M I5 Want Me to S end Y ou these fmvfvi@bigfoot.com
M I.5'Per secution H arassment throug h the Ra dio fmeiememv@yahoo.com
M I.5,Persecution , w hy won't t he B ritish pol ice emfiemif@gmail.com
M I`5 Perse cution , MI 5 Insi st t hat t hese Fa xes m feivfmve@gmail.com
M I`5,Pers ecution ' my res ponse to t he har assment vmvfef@gmail.com
M'I-5 Pers ecution , wh y won 't th e B ritish polic e fmfvmem@gmail.com
M'I-5 Persecutio n , Capita l R adio - Chri s Tarran t vimfefv@gmail.com
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Date: 31 Dec 2007 11:21:36 GMT
From: fmvfvi@bigfoot.com
Subject: M I.5'Pe rsecution ' M I5 Want Me to S end Y ou these F axes
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MI5 Want Me to. Send You these Faxes
MI5 seem to Want to Spin this Business. out for as Long as Possible
The MI5 persecution has now been going. on, starting from June 1990, for
well over nine years. If I knew. how to put an end to it then I would do
so. Of course MI5 have. indicated how they wish to finish the matter, by
finishing me off; they indicated this very. clearly years ago when they
were shouting "suicide". at me.
But a deeper truth is that the MI5. agents carrying out the persecution
rely on it for their. income and their livelihood. They have absolutely no
interest in anything other than spinning out the whole business,. because
that is how they will maximise their. earnings from their employer for the
"work" they do against. me.
A vital part of the fantasy structure MI5 have. created about me is that I
am somehow a worthwhile. target. If you bother to read these faxes, if you
browse my website,. or perhaps read my posts on the uk.misc newsgroup, you
will have by now. twigged that I am a totally insignificant person who in a
proper dictatorship like East Germany would not. merit five minutes of
Stasi time. But Britain is improper. in the methods of its corruption, and
the Security Service seeks to present me as being a. an evil fascist, an
evil communist, an evil something-else, and even a "national. institution".
It occurs to. me that to some extent I am playing into their hands, into
their scheme of things, by writing these articles. and sending these
faxes. By doing these things, I elevate my profile, and fuel. MI5s paranoid
obsession with me. But to stop sending faxes would be. to give up the only
hope I have of seeing. their campaign "outed" and justice done. Certainly
there is. no point going to the police again; and as remarked in a previous
article, the. Security Service Tribunal routinely whitewashes every
complaint that is. placed before it.
So although MI5 seems to. want me to continue sending these faxes, doing
this is. the only real chance of getting this business out into the
open. And so Ill. continue trying to kick down their house of cards. At
least my. situation is less serious than that of some other victims of the
secret services; unlike Shayler I am not broke and. exiled; unlike Fayed I
have not lost. a son to the posited activities of the secret services. All
I have lost is some of my health, some of my. life, and some of my possible
career.
MI5s Abuse of me. is without Cause or Reason
It constantly. puzzles me that MI5 refuse to leave me alone, wherever I go
and whatever I do,. or rather, whatever I dont do, since Im not a very
socially or otherwise. active person. When I am in England, they chase me
all over the place, and once theyve found me, they. pay people to shout
rude words at me. When I am in Europe, they again chase me. all over the
place, and as usual pay people. to shout obscenities at me. When I am in
Canada. or visiting the States, they faithfully chase me all over the
place, and when they. find me, pay people to shout obscenities at me.
It is hard to avoid the conclusion that these MI5 operatives. who chase me
are total. lunatics. You will remember from a previous articles the
assessment "MI5 Agents are Clinical Psychopaths". They have tried. to blame
me for what they. do and what they say; yet their lies have been
wafer-thin, and are clearly seen to be oiled by. the money which they
acquire from the Government, and ultimately. from the taxpayer.
They have tried various. lies to put the blame on me; "we have to abuse him
because hes a nutter", as if. there werent many tens of thousands of other
people. with schizophrenia in the United Kingdom. Their choice of abuse
words is telling; subconsciously. perhaps they realise that it is they who
are the "nutters",. and they try to project their own illness onto their
target.
MI5 Operatives. have Nothing Else to Do With Their Time
Ive seen the same "Alan Holdsworth" person three or. four times over a
period of several years.. I saw him at the Civic Hospital in Ottawa in the
Emergency Ward, where. he falsely declared his name to be "Tad"; at Ottawa
airport in. summer 1998; and on board another flight in 1995.
So what we see from the above paragraph is, the same people. are delegated
to watch me for many years.. Without me, they wouldnt have a job. They
literally have nothing else. to do with their time, except indulge their
voyeurism against me. With this observation, we come to the core of. MI5s
campaign against me; these people. are not fit for any job other than the
exercise of. voyeurism against me, and if sanity were to land on MI5 then
they would. be out of a job. If sanity were truly to land then these people
and their employers would be prosecuted for offences under the. Protection
from Harassment legislation, which they are clearly. breaking.
It is one of the ironies of their campaign that. MI5 have been trying to
make me an. object of ridicule for completely trivial things I have done,
while MI5 themselves have simply. not mentioned how ridiculous is their own
behaviour and that of broadcast media journalists,. in spying on me while
they. read the news for example. If the whole truth of this business is
ever exposed, and despite all my efforts. it still seems there is a block
on its exposure in Britain, then the rights and. wrongs will be clear to
all, and no amount of. MI5 lies will be able to change that. MI5 presumably
do realise just how damaging such a revelation would. be both to
themselves, and to broadcast media such as. the BBC and ITN, because there
has not been even the slightest chink in the armour,. despite four and a
half years of my complaints on internet newsgroups and by fax. to
politicians. and the media.
MI5s Final Kick in the. Teeth to the British State
For someone like myself born in the late. sixties it seems peculiar to
think that Great Britain once used to. have a say in the destiny of foreign
peoples in far-off sections. of the globe. Modern Britons tacitly accept
the lowering of their country to a. third-rate power reliant on the United
States for what little say it has in the world. A. third-rate power, now
"reverse-colonised" by third. world peoples it once ruled and riven with
internal problems so severe the government hardly dares. acknowledge them.
To this third-rate. power the MI5 secret police are delivering the final
kick in the teeth. through a campaign of persecution which is guaranteed to
hold the state up to. ridicule throughout the world when it is finally
exposed. As a "thought experiment" suppose the French or the. Spanish
security service had done to one of their. own born citizens what MI5 has
done in this country. Suppose say the Spanish had planted hidden. cameras
in his home, for the perverted pleasure of their. state television
newscasters, just as hidden cameras have been placed in my. home for the
perverted pleasure of. Martyn Lewis, Nicholas Witchell et al. Suppose the
Spanish service had for. nine years been trying to force suicide on their
target; at times, so blatantly. that they shouted the word "suicide".
Now suppose. they were caught.
Of course, as long as MI5 arent caught, theyre laughing.. The psychopathic
security service agents gets their kicks from shouting. abuse at me; the
newscasters, Lewis, Witchell etc get their jollies, "it was so. funny", we
were watching this bloke and he couldnt do. anything about it.
But once theyre. caught, the sky falls in. Of course, the
"patriotic" MI5-funded media in Britain will try to. put the best spin on
the MI5/media activities; it was the targets fault, of. course. But most of
the world. bears no allegiance to Britain. If this business is ever exposed
then a weakened Britain will become the laughing-stock of the world.. And I
promise you, the security services persecution of me will be exposed.. MI5
has. delivered a final kick in the teeth to the British state, and I will
do everything I can to ensure. the world hears about what they have done.
Metropolitan Police Refuse. to Investigate the MI5 persecution
I have on a couple of occasions tried to motivate the police. to
investigate MI5s actions against me. On each occasion they have. refused to
do so. In 1995 I. went to my local police station and spoke to an officer
there; he refused to accept my complaint, and seemed interested only. in
seeing me leave the station as quickly as. possible.
Earlier this year I had. some communications with Det.Sgt.Richards of
Charing Cross. police. Again I asked him to deal with MI5s actions against
me. Unfortunately DS Richards conformed. to the negative stereotype of the
bigoted, ignorant "copper"; he said, "I have read. your various bits on the
internet. I'm afraid there is no substance or credence. to it. It's an
absolute load of rubbish. I don't. investigate rubbish. I can't be more
blunt. or to the point than that."
You. have to wonder at the state of law enforcement in Britain. If the
victim of a murder is black,. as happened in the Lawrence case, the police
deliberately botch the investigation. If the victim of a crime. is mentally
ill, and. the perpetrators are the secret services, as in my case, then the
police refuse to even. begin to investigate the crimes
committed. Politically Britain is a third-rate country, but from. the point
of view of obtaining justice, Britain. ranks down there with third-world
countries. You almost feel that MI5 and their media buddies would. not even
have any shame if their activities against me were exposed; after all,. why
should they? they have the money, they have the. control, OK so perhaps
theyve broken a few dozen laws, but doesnt the. fact that the police are
too corrupt to. investigate these crimes, doesnt that prove that in fact no
crimes have been. committed?
I should say again what I. have said earlier in this article. My losses
over the last nine. years have not been as great as those of other victims
of British Secret Police malefaction. Fayed lost. his son to their
murderous activities; in my occasional communications with former. MI5/MI6
employees. I have been informed that a "permanent solution" is not uncommon
for opponents of the British. secret police. I have lost health and
financially, but am obviously well enough to keep fighting. my case. Others
have lost much more than I. If the joke which is British. "law
enforcement" refuses to enforce laws against. the security services then
that is something that is recognised in other. countries and Britains stock
correspondingly falls. Not. that it has very far to fall; the days when
England had any. say in the world are long gone.
MI5 Want These Faxes to. Continue
Before the holiday, I said that if MI5s harassment of me stopped,. then I
would cease my complaints. They have known very well. that if they
continued to harass me then I would resume the fax campaign in. the
autumn. Yet they have. not stopped persecuting me. Recently a woman outside
my domicile. screamed her head off with abuse in the direction of my
window; and on Saturday 2 October, when. I was shopping at a nearby
supermarket, a. man shouted the particularly vile sexual swear word which I
have. heard many times before over the last few years.
MI5s attitude. shows complete arrogance. Yet it also shows that they want
the faxes to continue and deliberately try to provoke me. into sending
further faxes. The reasons for this are given. in the first paragraphs of
this article; the MI5 operatives. who persecute me have nothing else to do
with their time; to make their campaign, against. an apparently unreacting
target, have some value, they. have to force me to react in some way
against their actions; and by reacting in. this way, by bringing their
campaign to the attention of British politicians, I play. into their hands,
by giving their campaign the attention and importance which. they feel it
deserves.
In the short term, by sending these. faxes, perhaps I am doing something
they want me to do, but in the longer term it is. undoubtedly more in my
interest than theirs for their. activities to be exposed. If their
operatives. truly do wish to see these faxes continued then they are
committing. a serious mistake, because it significantly increases the risk
if M.P.s (some of whom already know about MI5s activities against me). are
advised. of my side of the story.
I will continue to monitor and. record the secret services activities
against. me over the next few weeks. If they diminish and cease, as I hope
they will, then I may be able to call a halt to. these faxes; but that it
something which is entirely up. to them; recently their continued
harassment makes clear that. they do wish the faxes to continue, and in all
sincerity I do think they will continue. their activities and make it
impossible for me to. cease these faxes. It may trouble you to receive
these articles, but it troubles me much more to be on the receiving. end of
a national persecution campaign; and while Britain does. not have free
speech provisions as does Canada in the. Charter of Rights and Freedoms,
and the US in the first amendment to the. constitution, in practice I do
not think anyone is going to try. to have me locked up for speaking the
truth. I still cherish the hope that the veracity I express will be. shown
for what it. is, and that the truth will prevail and make me free.
Removing the Mask of Anonymity from the MI5. Operatives
Undoubtedly one factor encouraging the MI5 agents. actions against me has
been the fact that they can shelter behind a. mask of anonymity while they
carry out their abuse. This is. both a sign of their realisation that their
actions are criminal; for crimes are harder to. pin down and make a
coherent complaint about when their perpetrators are unknown; and. it is a
sign. of their cowardice, since they lack the backbone to say things to my
face. themselves; instead they almost always rely on third parties to carry
out the actual. acts of abuse.
On a few occasions I have seen the perpetrators, but on each. occasion they
have managed to preserve. their anonymity. They travelled on the same
British Airways flight as me in. 1994; but BA have ever since refused to
give up. the passenger list for the flight, and the police and lawyers have
proved useless in obtaining their identities from the list.. Also one of
them followed. me into A&E department of Ottawas Civic Hospital a couple of
years ago, and gave his name as. (if I heard correctly) "Alan
Holdsworth"; but the doctor refused to give out. his identity when I later
tried. to speak to him.
If only we knew the identities. of the individual operatives, then it would
be possible to find out the identity of. their employing organisation. But
I think we know the latter. already, since I have been accusing them on
internet newsgroups for four and. a half years now, and they have never
denied my. guess. Indeed, when I was travelling in January 1996 back to
Ottawa, two youths on the (British Airways again, unfortunately). flight
made a lot of noise at me, one. of them saying to the other that I "didnt
know who we are". That is a. wafer-thin denial; I had been saying for a
year that they were MI5, so. a stronger denial would be necessary if my
guess were truly mistaken. I think the lukewarm denial was worse. than no
denial at all, since it confirmed my guess that the employing agency. was
indeed. MI5.
Conclusion
It has been suggested to me that by. sending these faxes I could be making
trouble for myself;. but I dont think so. My psychiatrist knows what I am
doing; indeed I have given him a couple of these. articles for him to cast
an. eye over.
I dont want to have to send faxes for the next. year, or the year after
that. But that is entirely up to MI5. If they. continue to persecute me
then I. am forced into defending myself. The ball is in their court, and it
is entirely up to them what they do. If as I suspect it. is their intention
that these faxes continue, if that is what they insist will happen then. so
be. it.
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Date: 31 Dec 2007 10:05:52 GMT
From: fmeiememv@yahoo.com
Subject: M I.5'Per secution H arassment throug h the Ra dio
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MI5 Persecution Update:. Friday 9 July, 1999
Harassment in. Poland, July 1999
And still it continues.... in. my last fax I said that provided MI5 made no
attempts at harassment. during my two-week holiday this summer, or after I
returned to England, then I would discontinue these faxes.. Unfortunately
MI5 have continued to harass me, both during the holiday. and after my
return to London. I really dont want to continue these articles,. since
they take up. so much time and effort, not to mention expense; but the
Security Service wont even let. me have a holiday in peace and quiet, so I
have to make further efforts to bring their activities out. into the open.
In. early July I visited my aunt and her family in Poland. On Saturday 3
July 1999, I went. to a family barbecue at an allotment outside the
city. One of my aunts family has previously shown himself. to be in the
"enemy" camp, by saying the Polish equivalent of. "something wrong with
him", and various other unprovoked insults. It. is disappointing that one
of my family could forsake the usual ties. of blood and take part in the
actions against me,. but thats the way it is. This guy turned up at the
barbecue, and started making. insults against me. In particular, he started
to say something about the video camera which I. had brought along on the
trip, and the relevance of the video-camera to my. fight against the
persecution. It seemed pretty obvious. to me that my enemies had told him
to turn. up to this occasion, and most likely schooled him in precisely
what words to say;. since hes an unintelligent person and would not be
able to think for himself what insults to. make against me.
Harassment in London, week ending. Friday 9 July 1999
Got back. to London Wednesay afternoon. Two incidents on the Underground
returning from the airport. Unfortunately I. wasnt recording because I
wasnt expecting trouble, so these slipped. through the net. One of these
was verbal sexual abuse, of the type Ive heard. many, many times before
these. last three-and-a-half years.
Yesterday, Thursday 8/July/1999, I switched. on Heart FM which had never
"got at" me before.... and the. presenter started making jokes about "mad,
crazy" etc. Again, wasnt. recording this because Id never had any trouble
from this radio. station and wasnt expecting any.
Also yesterday, on a bus (155?) from Balham to Clapham, a couple of. girls
started harassing. me with taunts of "crazy". By now I was expecting
trouble and recorded an audio file of this instance of. abuse, at web URL;
The cynical reader might think my demeanour or behaviour had. given rise to
the taunts. of "crazy" recorded above. But I assure you my behaviour on the
bus would not have made anyone think I. was ill; and the taunts the
previous. day were the same sexual words as previously; so I'm quite sure
that these incidents are either deliberately staged, or indicative of. an
overall high level of awareness among the. London public, particularly in
the part of London. where I live.
Keith Hill MP (Labour - Streatham), my. elected representative, as ever
refuses to. help.
MI5 Persecution:. Harassment through the Radio
One of the aspects of the MI5 persecution. has been harassment through the
broadcast and print media; and. one of the aspects of harassment through
the broadcast media is being "got. at" by radio presenters. This being "got
at" from the radio takes various forms, the most obvious. form being
through overt or hidden words and insults. But there are other,. subtler
forms. In Canada a couple of years. ago, I used to listen to the local
radio stations every morning driving to work, and listened. to the music
only,. switching between radio station presets rapidly as soon as a
presenters voice came on, so that I. would not be subjected to any verbal
harassment by the D.J.s. But they found a way around this; they kept. on
playing the same song, every bl**dy morning at the same. time, which had
the words "all coming back to me"; the. perceptive reader will remember
that the words "coming back". have special meaning (see the Private Eye
cover at web. URL; for the
hidden. meaning).
And thats. not the only time theyve allowed the songs themselves to be used
as abuse against me; many years ago Radio-1 in the. UK did exactly the
same, and the DJ even made it explicitly clear. by saying, "dont you
sometimes feel as if the songs. were made just for you".
"We should be done. for attempted manslaughter" says Chris Tarrant
Capital Radio DJs have been "in on it". from the start. One of the first
things I heard in the summer of 1990 was from a Capital DJ who said,. "If
he listens. to Capital then he can't be all bad" (supportive, you
see.. We're not bastards). Much of what came over the radio in 1990 is now
so far away the precise details have been obliterated by time. No. diary
was. kept of the details, and although archives if they exist may give
pointers, the ambiguity. of what broadcasters said would leave that open to
re-interpretation.
In spring 1994, Chris Tarrant on his. Capital morning show made an aside to
someone else in the studio, about a person he didn't identify. He. said,
"You know this bloke? He says we're trying to. kill him. We should be done
for attempted. manslaughter".
That mirrored something I had said a day or two. before. What Tarrant said
was understood by the staff member in the studio he was saying. it to; they
said,. "Oh no, don't say that" to Tarrant. If any archives exist of the
morning show (probably. unlikely) then it could be found there; what he
said was so out of context. that he would be very hard put to find an
explanation. A couple of days later, someone at. the site where I was
working repeated the remark although in a. different way; they said there
had been people in a computer room. when automatic fire extinguishers went
off and those people were "thinking of suing for. attempted manslaughter".
Pirate Radio "gets at". me
In another incident in 1990/91, Id been listening. to a pirate radio
station in South London for half. an hour, when there was an audible phone
call in the background, then total silence for a few moments,. followed by
shrieks of laughter.. "So what are we supposed to say now? Deadly
torture? Hes going to talk to us now, isnt he?" which. meant that they
could hear what I would say. in my room. Note the word "deadly" - they give
away. their purpose.
It constantly surprised me that MI5 are so easily able to. subvert
broadcasters, and, in this case. of the pirate station, to do so, so
quickly. I think the answer to this question is. that they must have very
wide contacts in the broadcast media; presumably some or in fact. many of
those contacts are literally "bought". In the same way as they tried. to
buy Jon Snow of Channel Four news, they must. have bought many broadcasters
and use them. both directly to make insults against me, and promulgate
their. points of view; but also, they must use these "bought" broadcasters
to influence other television and radio presenters, who might. not even be
aware that it was. on MI5s behalf that they were being influenced to "get
at". me.
BBC-Radio-1 D.J.s celebrate. my job termination in November 1991
This is another one. from the "early years". At the beginning of November
1991 my employment in Woking,. Surrey was terminated. Chris Tarrant of
Capital-FM had already made nasty remarks about both my. work for the
company, and the managers. of the company themselves - "so theyre not
really a serious company, well theyd have to be to employ you. wouldnt
they".
So when I was terminated, as you can expect,. BBC Radio 1 D.J.s
celebrated. On. the Saturday afternoon (either 9/Nov/1991 or 16/Nov/1991 -
I cannot remember precisely) I briefly listened to Radio-1 and heard. the
disc jockeys loudly proclaiming "youre useless, you should be sacked".. On
the same. day, I went down to the Kwik-Fit in Tooting to get my cars tyres
replaced, and in the office ran into a couple of their staff,. one of them
with an Australian accent, who said "what do. you think about it then? Its
getting killed on the. radio."
Plainly,. if a random car-repair shop in Tooting knew about the
persecution, then. many thousands of other people across the capital and
all over the. country must have known. And the phrase "getting
killed" shows very clear awareness of what the MI5 Persecutors. intentions
towards me were in 1991, and. judging by the continuing harassment, still
remain. today.
Recent. Feedback from Virgin-Radio
As readers will know, from mid-March 1999 for. some four months, every
weekend, I have bombarded Westminster MPs with faxes about. the terrible,
all-encompassing MI5 Persecution. (Jesting aside, it. really is terrible
and all-encompassing, in. the UK anyway.) In June 1999, after I'd been at
it some three months, I started getting "covert" feedback from. Virgin
Radio.
The first feedback I got was from. Danny Baker, on Sunday 13th June. That
weekend I. was sending an article which contained biting criticism of the
police inaction in this case. Danny Baker. on his Virgin radio show started
an. angry rant that "he knows it's rubbish", ie. he was rubbishing what I'd
said in that weekend's faxed article. Unfortunately I wasn't. recording
this. programme.
The next possible. Virgin-Radio feedback was a week later on 19th June
1999. This is contained in the. audio file above, in which Johnny Boy on
his "Wheels. of Steel" programme says;
"and if. you would like to put a triple play together, ahhh.... because
quite frankly Hipster. and me are running out of ideas...."
He goes on to counter Hipster's "how. dare you" with a protestation that he
is "only joking". You. can listen to this incident on my website at URL;
What I reckon is that my article faxed to MPs that weekend. was forwarded
by one of the recipients to Virgin Radio. My article had. included the
words;
"I am beginning to run out of both new topics and energy. to write these
articles."
So what I. reckon is that Johnny Boy read the article.... and rephrased the
above line "run out of. ... new topics" to "running out of ideas". I
recognise that this is a. pretty tenuous inference to make.... but do
listen to the audio file, from the. "ahhh...." pause in JB's speech you can
guess he is. about to say something "risky" and at someone's
expense. Anyway, I listen to the. Wheels of Steel regularly and will
continue to do so, recording it as I always do - so any. future funny
remarks will get immortalised on my website! (There was a. previous
incident from August 1998. which is preserved at web URL;
but I am sufficiently uncertain about. it that I have not included it in
this. article.)
First Ever Radio Reference - Alan Freeman of. BBC-Radio-1
The first time I was ever referred to on the. radio was sometime in May or
June of 1990, by Alan Freeman of BBC-Radio-1. Note that. this isnt an
"interactive listening" episode,. its different, this was Freeman reading
out a letter. from one of my "real life" enemies.
Id acrimoniously broken. up with some former friends in January of 1990,
and I think they were still. trying to cause me trouble in June of that
year. Freeman on his rock show read. out a letter from an "Andrew
Turner"; one of my acquaintances from January 1990 had been. called Andy
Turner, so I think its the same guy. Freeman. quoted Turner as saying
various things about me, in particular. Freeman said "thats a hell of a
letter. you wrote there Andy", "with a schizophrenic you're never alone",
and something about the "one who wore out. his welcome with random
precision". (from the words of the Pink Floyd song).
When I was looking for primary. causes of the MI5 persecution, this letter
which Freeman had read out on his. programme struck me as being potentially
one of the sources of the persecution. I know. Turner and various others in
that group were. very bitter at what they saw as their failure and my
undeserved. success, and they were quite determined to upset the
applecart. Of course several other primary causes are. possible; I do not
know why MI5 chose. me as opposed to someone else, and MI5 are hardly
likely. to tell me.
"Absolute Obscene" David. Hepworth of GLR
This one Ive assigned a. 100% rating on the website. There are actually two
separate incidents,. which are linked through the D.J.s choice of
words. The first incident can. be heard in computer audio at web URL;
On . 21/Feb/1997, I was listening to BBC GLR, by stealth. Back in 1990 I
used. to have Capital blaring out of the speakers all over the garden ("if
he listens to Capital then he can't be all bad",. thanks ever so much). But
now I listen on my walkman on headphones with. the volume turned right
down.. It could not possibly be overheard by any listening device, no
matter how sensitive,. because sound does not carry from the phones.
Yet somehow they are still able to tell. which station I am listening to on
the. walkman. And last night, I bravely tuned to GLR 94.9FM at around
8.45pm. Everything. went well for the first half hour or so. Around 9.10pm,
Hepworth said the following after the song. "Come Around" by the
Muttonbirds.
"coming up after this, we. got the rock-and-roll A-level, we have, I
assume, Brian do we have an embarrassment of prizes in there,. we do, don't
we, absolute obscene amounts of prizes, there will no doubt be a. riot at
the back door, and that's, er, A-level coming up. after this"
The key phrases in what he said are,. "EMBARRASSMENT of prizes", and what
he himself emphasized verbally, "ABSOLUTE. OBSCENE amount of prizes". It is
my belief (based on content and tone of voice) that when he. spoke these
phrases he knew I was listening, and that. the phrases refer directly to my
situation. The "EMBARRASSMENT" is the embarrassment. he and other media
people would feel. at having their wrongdoing exposed; the "ABSOLUTE
OBSCENE" (which. he verbally emphasized) described the disgusting sexual
abuse which the harassers have been throwing. at me.
There was a second incident, on 9/May/1997, which may be found. on the web
(with. computer audio) at URL;
This incident again. contains the words "absolute embarrassment of prizes",
with the same emphasis as the first. instance, and laughter following the
phrase. So theyre aware of the. complaint I made on Usenet after the first
incident; and they are so arrogant that they. do exactly the same
again. They are so arrogant, they know they are being. recorded and that
what they say will. be published on the web, but they dont care. What
corrupt media, and what a corrupt country to. have such corruption in its
media.
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Date: Tue, 1 Jan 2008 14:09:16 +0000 (UTC)
From: emfiemif@gmail.com
Subject: M I.5,Persecution , w hy won't t he B ritish pol ice do the ir job and p ut a stop to it?
Message-Id: <dw0800011409154938@4ax.com>
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The British police obviously do. know what is taking place. Besides my
interpretations of what individual officers have. said which forces that
conclusion, it would be inconceivable for them. to be unaware of something
on this. scale.
If. they know, then they will know that the abusers have broken laws in the
UK and. abroad. Recently the UK introduced laws against electronic spying
which. carry a penalty of several years jail if caught. If the police know
illegal harassment. is taking place, and do nothing about it, then they are
failing in. their responsibilities.
Last Easter (1995) I went into the local police station in. London and spoke
to an officer about. the harassment against me. But I couldn't provide
tangible evidence;. what people said, in many cases years ago, is beyond
proof,. and without something to support my statements I cannot expect a
police officer to take. the complaint seriously.
The current situation. with regard to the police is not one which allows a
breakthrough in dealing with the. problem. On the one hand, most individual
officers at a local police station may. not know about the ongoing assaults,
so a complaint at that level. will not yield results. Yet the police as an
organisation do know of the. harassment, and they must be aware that a
complaint has been made at a police station.. So it is clearly their duty to
take preventative action. against the continuing molestation, but because
the criminals are operating on behalf of a state agency, the police are. not
carrying out. their duty.
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Date: 31 Dec 2007 11:57:01 GMT
From: feivfmve@gmail.com
Subject: M I`5 Perse cution , MI 5 Insi st t hat t hese Fa xes must C ontinue
Message-Id: <ry0711311156580744@4ax.com>
MI5 Persecution Update: Friday 31 March,. 2000
22,544. Faxes Delivered in Three Years, and Still No Breakthrough
In the last three. years I have sent at least 22,544 faxes to recipients in
the. UK, of which at least 13,974 have gone to Westminster. Last weekend
alone I sent 832 completed. faxes to politicians, the media and various
others, on the. subject of MI5s mistreatment of me these last ten years.
I believe some. of the recipients know of MI5s actions against me in the
last decade; yet they maintain strict "omerta" in. fear of the security
services persecution actions being. made public.
MI5. Insist that these Faxes must Continue
Between September 1999. and mid-January 2000, the persecutors, whoever they
might be, mostly left me. alone. I counted only three incidents in almost
five months - which is a lower. rate than at any time since June 1990, when
this. business started.
By leaving me alone for several months, the "oppressors" were making. an
implicit assurance that they would. continue to leave me alone in the
future. On. 11 January I posted to an internet newsgroup accepting what I
saw as their assurance of no. further harassment, stating that I would
cease sending these. faxes - which is the only thing I do in my defence -
if they continued. to leave me alone. And for two weeks I did indeed
refrain from. distributing these articles.
But MI5 acted in bad faith.. From the last week of January until the
beginning of March, they resumed their hate campaign. against me with a
vengeance. They even put people. in my road three times in February, one
instance of which I. recorded. They resumed their normal behaviour of
bugging my phone and house, listening to. where I would go, and then
placing people. in that location to "aggravate and annoy" me.
What MI5 did in February is plainly a contravention. of the Protection from
Harassment. Act 1997, since it has caused me "alarm and distress" as
specified in the. Act. But it is a waste of time going to the police with a
complaint, since the police. have done, and will do, absolutely nothing. I
complained. to the Metropolitan Police in 1995, and they refused to take my
complaint. When I complained again in. 1999, the detective sergeant laughed
at my complaint,. with the words, "It's an absolute load of rubbish. I
don't investigate rubbish. I. can't be more blunt or to the point than
that." It is useful to. remember that the Met also treated Stephen
Lawrences parents with similar discourtesy; police. prejudices are similar
in my. case, so I can take some comfort from that case and hope that one
day I will get. a fair hearing.
MI5 acted in. bad faith, but they also acted with arrogance. They do not
care if I send 800 faxes every weekend, since they know I. cannot prove my
claims, and the. recent Shayler case shows how weak external oversight is
of the secret services. But they acted with more than arrogance. - the MI5
agents actually want my faxes to continue, they insist. that these faxes
continue, since my communications give them an excuse. to continue their
activities, and continue in the paid employ of the secret. service. Despite
their use. of diverse proxies over the last ten years, it is the same MI5
officers behind the campaign all the time - I. have seen one of them on
three occasions in Canada over a period of years, and it is a safe. belief
that that. same person continues to be paid for his "work" in harassing me
in. London now. The average cost of an MI5 employee is some 75,000 per
annum, so one. may infer that their officers are amply compensated; their
insistence that "hostilities" are maintained is. understandable when placed
in. this light.
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Date: Tue, 1 Jan 2008 15:37:48 +0000 (UTC)
From: vmvfef@gmail.com
Subject: M I`5,Pers ecution ' my res ponse to t he har assment
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My first reaction. in 1990/91 was to assume that if I broke contact then
they would. not be able to follow and would lose interest. So I did the
things that have. been suggested by other people; I sold my television,
stopped listening to the radio and. tried to withdraw away from the sources
of abuse as much as possible. I. reasoned that they must have more important
things to deal with and that normal people would. simply leave me alone if
it were made difficult for. them to continue their harassment.
I reckoned without the sheer vindictiveness of. the abusers. They did not
let up but instead "got to" people. around me, mainly people at work, to do
their dirty work for them. I went to see my GP,. who refused to believe what
he was being. told, and refused to direct me on to anyone who could be of
practical assistance. It was not until. three years had passed that the GP
admitted the matter was. outside his competence and suggested going to the
police.
In the summer of 1994 we called. in counter-surveillance experts from a
private detective agency to sweep. our house and telephone for bugging
devices. They conducted. a thorough search and found nothing; but as noted
above, since the existence of surveillance was. being forced in my face by
the harassers, you would. expect them to have taken the possibility of a
counter-surveillance sweep into account. when planning the type of devices
to be. employed.
In Easter 1995 I made a complaint to my local Police station in. London, but
the police have not expressed any intention to do anything. about the
continuing harassment ("we're not saying it's. happening and we're not
saying it isn't happening" were the. words used). I think the officer I
spoke to at. Easter wasn't aware of it happening, although other members of
the police force obviously do. know.
From April 1995 until the present time the matter. has been discussed in a
lot of detail on the Usenet (Internet) "uk.misc". newsgroup. That discussion
has given birth to the article which. you are now reading. My hopes in
posting to. Usenet were that wider publicizing would discourage the security
services from. continuing their harassment, and "draw people out" into
concurring with the truth of what. was being said. Neither of those have
followed, but the discussion has. served a purpose in allowing this
structured report to be. created.
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Date: Tue, 1 Jan 2008 13:42:34 +0000 (UTC)
From: fmfvmem@gmail.com
Subject: M'I-5 Pers ecution , wh y won 't th e B ritish polic e do thei r j ob an d p ut a st op to it ?
Message-Id: <ns0800011342332764@4ax.com>
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-= why won't the British police do their. job and put a stop to it? -=
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
The British police obviously do know. what is taking place. Besides my
interpretations of what. individual officers have said which forces that
conclusion, it would be inconceivable for. them to be unaware of something
on this. scale.
If they know, then they will know that the. abusers have broken laws in the
UK and abroad. Recently. the UK introduced laws against electronic spying
which carry a penalty of several years jail if. caught. If the police know
illegal harassment is taking. place, and do nothing about it, then they are
failing. in their responsibilities.
Last Easter (1995) I. went into the local police station in London and spoke
to an officer about. the harassment against me. But I couldn't provide
tangible evidence; what people said, in. many cases years ago, is beyond
proof,. and without something to support my statements I cannot expect a
police officer to take the complaint. seriously.
The current situation with regard to. the police is not one which allows a
breakthrough in dealing with the problem. On the one. hand, most individual
officers at a local police. station may not know about the ongoing assaults,
so a complaint at that level will not yield results. Yet the. police as an
organisation do know of the harassment, and they must be aware. that a
complaint has been made at a police station.. So it is clearly their duty to
take. preventative action against the continuing molestation, but because
the criminals are operating on behalf of a state agency, the police. are not
carrying out their. duty.
343
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Date: Tue, 1 Jan 2008 09:19:22 +0000 (UTC)
From: vimfefv@gmail.com
Subject: M'I-5 Persecutio n , Capita l R adio - Chri s Tarran t
Message-Id: <ah0800010919210057@4ax.com>
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Capital Radio DJs have been "in on it". from the start. One of the first
things I heard in the summer of 1990 was from a Capital DJ who said,. "If
he listens to Capital then he. can't be all bad" (supportive, you see. We're
not bastards). Much of. what came over the radio in 1990 is now so far away
the precise details have. been obliterated by time. No diary was kept of the
details, and although archives if they exist may give. pointers, the
ambiguity of what broadcasters said would leave that. open to
re-interpretation.
In spring 1994,. Chris Tarrant on his Capital morning show made an aside to
someone else in the studio, about a person. he didn't identify. He said,
"You know this. bloke? He says we're trying to kill him. We should be done
for attempted. manslaughter".
That mirrored something I had said a day. or two before. What Tarrant said
was understood by the staff member in the. studio he was saying it to; they
said, "Oh no, don't say that" to Tarrant. If any archives. exist of the
morning show (probably unlikely) then it. could be found there; what he said
was so out of context that he would be very hard. put to find an explanation.
A couple of days. later, someone at the site where I was working repeated the
remark although in a. different way; they said there had been people in a
computer room when automatic fire extinguishers. went off and those people
were. "thinking of suing for attempted manslaughter".
Finally, this isn't confined. to the established radio stations. In 1990
after I. had listened to a pirate radio station in South London for about
half an. hour, there was an audible phone call in the background, followed
by total. silence for a few moments, then shrieks of laughter. "So what are
we supposed to say now? Deadly torture? He's. going to talk to us now, isn't
he?", which meant that they could hear what I would say in my. room.
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