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Today's topics:
Re: Archive::Zip on windows <bik.mido@tiscalinet.it>
Re: FAQ 4.3 Why isn't my octal data interpreted correct <hjp-usenet2@hjp.at>
Re: Get values from hash "in order" <ben@morrow.me.uk>
Re: Help: Auto login FTP modules <openlinuxsource@gmail.com>
Re: How to parse out specific data in text files and pl <kkeller-usenet@wombat.san-francisco.ca.us>
Re: How to parse out specific data in text files and pl <news@lawshouse.org>
MI5-Persecution: .net Magazine Applauds my Website (824 MI5-Victim@mi5.gov.uk
MI5-Persecution: BBC Newscasters Spying on my Home (104 MI5-Victim@mi5.gov.uk
MI5-Persecution: Browse the Website (14790) MI5-Victim@mi5.gov.uk
MI5-Persecution: How Could It Be True? (1692) MI5-Victim@mi5.gov.uk
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Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2007 13:46:30 +0100
From: Michele Dondi <bik.mido@tiscalinet.it>
Subject: Re: Archive::Zip on windows
Message-Id: <hf7am3pt2484ne7n433kacqfdlhun0v26r@4ax.com>
On Sat, 15 Dec 2007 12:02:04 +0000, Ben Morrow <ben@morrow.me.uk>
wrote:
>It's not a volume spec in that case, as zips use Unix filespecs. It's
>just a directory called 'c:'. I've no idea what would happen if you
>tried to extract such a zip under Win32.
C:\temp>zipme.pl c:\temp\win0.pl
Adding c:\temp\win0.pl
C:\temp>del win0.pl
C:\temp>unzip file.zip
Archive: file.zip
inflating: c_/temp/win0.pl
(With minimal modifications to zipme.pl and InfoZIP's unzip.)
Michele
--
{$_=pack'B8'x25,unpack'A8'x32,$a^=sub{pop^pop}->(map substr
(($a||=join'',map--$|x$_,(unpack'w',unpack'u','G^<R<Y]*YB='
.'KYU;*EVH[.FHF2W+#"\Z*5TI/ER<Z`S(G.DZZ9OX0Z')=~/./g)x2,$_,
256),7,249);s/[^\w,]/ /g;$ \=/^J/?$/:"\r";print,redo}#JAPH,
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Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2007 23:53:04 +0100
From: "Peter J. Holzer" <hjp-usenet2@hjp.at>
Subject: Re: FAQ 4.3 Why isn't my octal data interpreted correctly?
Message-Id: <slrnfm8mmg.at5.hjp-usenet2@hrunkner.hjp.at>
On 2007-12-15 08:03, PerlFAQ Server <brian@stonehenge.com> wrote:
> This is an excerpt from the latest version perlfaq4.pod, which
> comes with the standard Perl distribution. These postings aim to
> reduce the number of repeated questions as well as allow the community
> to review and update the answers. The latest version of the complete
> perlfaq is at http://faq.perl.org .
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> 4.3: Why isn't my octal data interpreted correctly?
>
> Perl only understands octal and hex numbers as such when they occur as
> literals in your program. Octal literals in perl must start with a
> leading 0 and hexadecimal literals must start with a leading "0x". If
> they are read in from somewhere and assigned, no automatic conversion
> takes place. You must explicitly use "oct()" or "hex()" if you want the
> values converted to decimal.
^^^^^^^
Perl numbers aren't decimal, they are binary (despite the automatic
conversion to and from decimal strings). But the representation of the
number doesn't matter, what matters is that it is a number. So that
should read
... if you want to convert a string with an octal or hexadecimal
number to a number.
Hmm, "number" twice in a row doesn't sound good, either. Maybe:
... if you want to get the numeric value of a a string with an octal
or hexadecimal number.
hp
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Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2007 01:23:05 +0000
From: Ben Morrow <ben@morrow.me.uk>
Subject: Re: Get values from hash "in order"
Message-Id: <p8be35-cv31.ln1@osiris.mauzo.dyndns.org>
Quoth "Peter J. Holzer" <hjp-usenet2@hjp.at>:
>
> Actually, that's only guaranteed if no elements are added or removed
> between accesses. Adding or removing elements may completely change the
> order.
Adding may, removing never will.
> Actually I'm surprised that
>
<snip>
>
> always produces the same file. IIRC some early 5.8.x version introduced
> a random seed value which would ensure that the order is different for
> each run. Apparently this was dropped again.
No, it's still there. It only gets invokes when a hash starts behaving
pathologically. If you download the file
http://www.cs.rice.edu/~scrosby/hash/attack/perl-5.8.0-attack.gz and
gunzip it, then
perl -e'@h{<>} = (); print +(keys %h)[0]' perl-5.8.0-attack
will give a different answer every time.
Ben
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Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2007 11:32:25 +0800
From: Amy Lee <openlinuxsource@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Help: Auto login FTP modules
Message-Id: <pan.2007.12.16.03.32.24.588271@gmail.com>
On Sat, 15 Dec 2007 15:52:46 -0500, Thrill5 wrote:
>
> "Ron Bergin" <rkb@i.frys.com> wrote in message
> news:72a1ba00-d838-4c31-b390-8ece92b06dbb@e6g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
>> On Dec 15, 6:12 am, Amy Lee <openlinuxsou...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> Is there any FTP auto-login function in Perl modules?
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Amy Lee
>>
>> I assume you mean that you're wanting to avoid including your username/
>> password in the script. That is accomplished by using ssh keys.
>> You'll want to look at Net::SFTP or Net::SSH2::SFTP or Net::SCP
>>
>> http://search.cpan.org/~dbrobins/Net-SFTP-0.10/lib/Net/SFTP.pm
>> http://search.cpan.org/~dbrobins/Net-SSH2-0.18/lib/Net/SSH2/SFTP.pm
>> http://search.cpan.org/~ivan/Net-SCP-0.08/SCP.pm
>
> The above solution requires that you have an SFTP or SCP server installed,
> if you need FTP try Net:FTP
>
> http://search.cpan.org/~gbarr/libnet-1.22/Net/FTP.pm
Thank you~
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Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2007 17:55:48 -0800
From: Keith Keller <kkeller-usenet@wombat.san-francisco.ca.us>
Subject: Re: How to parse out specific data in text files and plugs into the spreadsheet
Message-Id: <46de35xrra.ln2@goaway.wombat.san-francisco.ca.us>
On 2007-12-15, Henry Law <news@lawshouse.org> wrote:
>
> I'm amazed. It must be Christmas.
Or Hanukkah. ;-)
--keith
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Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2007 23:07:36 +0000
From: Henry Law <news@lawshouse.org>
Subject: Re: How to parse out specific data in text files and plugs into the spreadsheet
Message-Id: <1197760055.19661.0@iris.uk.clara.net>
cyrusgreats@gmail.com wrote:
> I need help writing a script in perl that takes text files and parses
> out specific data and plugs the data back into the spreadsheet. Can
> anyone help me on that..Thanks in advance..
Y'know what, Mr Cyrus the Great? You've just got away with it in this
group. I take my hat off to your astonishing chutzpah. You asked the
most _terrible_ question, wanting highly-paid Perl mavens to do your
work for you ... and eventually someone did. So you carried on asking
dreadful questions, but your charmed life continued and people who have
forgotten more programming than I suspect you'll ever know continued to
give up their time because you couldn't be bothered to put your own in.
I'm amazed. It must be Christmas.
--
Henry Law Manchester, England
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Date: 16 Dec 2007 12:52:48 GMT
From: MI5-Victim@mi5.gov.uk
Subject: MI5-Persecution: .net Magazine Applauds my Website (8241)
Message-Id: <m07111612524576@4ax.com>
MI5 Persecution: .net Magazine Applauds my Website
The March 1998 issue (number 42) of .net Magazine reviews the MI5
Persecution website describing it as an "excellent site". The webpages
describe in detail the nature of my persecution since 1990 by what are
believed to be elements of the UK security service.
(snip image)
You are encouraged to read the web pages which include
o a FAQ section outlining the nature of the persecutors, their methods
of harassment through the media, people at work and among the general public
o an evidence section, which carries audio and video clips of media and
workplace harassment, rated according to how directly I think they refer to me
o factual descriptions of the state security agencies involved
o scanned texts of the complaints I have made to media and state security agencies involved
o posts which have been made to netnews over the last three years on this topic
8241
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Date: 16 Dec 2007 13:17:29 GMT
From: MI5-Victim@mi5.gov.uk
Subject: MI5-Persecution: BBC Newscasters Spying on my Home (10424)
Message-Id: <m07111613172626@4ax.com>
MI5 Persecution Update: Friday 13 November, 1998
If You Intend To Reply, Please Read This
If you have any questions or observations you would like to share with me,
then you are very welcome to reply to my fax number 0171-681-1190. But
please.... keep your response to one page if you can! I have had several
people faxing my article back to me, including one MP faxing back twenty
pages. I do not know if he had anything intelligent to say in his 20-page
fax because I applied judicious use of the "Delete" key on my
computer. Faxes over a page or two will be deleted without being read.
MI5 Resume Hostilities in Response to these Faxes
When I wrote last weeks "MI5 Persecution Update" I remarked how quiet my
life had become. No longer! MI5 have restarted hostilities with a
vengeance the past week, in response I believe to the faxes I have been
sending to members of the House of Commons.
On Saturday 7 November I went to Clapham Picture House cinema to see the
film "Antz" (a very enjoyable film). At the cinema, I was verbally
assaulted by a group of teenagers with the words "still crazy", repeated
about ten times. There was a film with that name showing at the cinema,
but it was clear their abuse was directed at me. I do not look ill, so why
would they pick on me? answer, the incident was set-up by the
persecutors. One of the teenagers also said to another, "I don't know what
we're laughing at".
The following day, Sunday 8/11/98, I was on my way to play squash when I
was verbally assaulted by a youth who said "it was so funny", without the
slightest trace of humour. What he meant by this phrase was that was
funny, and they were trying to humiliate me. I have heard this phrase "it
was so funny" used at me before many, many times over the last eight and
half years.
Please Encourage Keith Hill MP to Help Me
I live in a bugged house, bugged both for audio and video. My movements
are monitored by MI5. The Security Service have followed me to Canada, to
Poland and the Continent, to the States. I cannot work anywhere, not in
England, not in Canada, because MI5 will destroy whatever employment I am
able to obtain. I have asked Keith Hill MP to help me, and he has refused.
The situation is intolerable. It is Mr Hills job to help me out of this
mess. So, please, as I said in the last fax a week ago: Do not waste your
time returning multiple copies of my faxes to my fax mailbox, as some of
you have done. Instead;
Please encourage Keith Hill M.P. to help me.
I am sorry to be using this device to encourage Mr Hill to help, but I
think eight and half years are quite enough and it is time something was
done to bring this matter to a close.
MI5 Persecution : BBC Newscasters Spying on my Home
This week's topic is the quite extraordinary claim that BBC newscasters
such as Martyn Lewis and Michael Buerk have spied on my living room while
they read the news. I currently have an advert running for the next six
months in Private Eye's "Eye Say" column (at a cost of over #200) which
says,"MI5 Persecution - BBC Newscasters Spying on my Home"; the story of
my campaign in the Eye is on my Website
at; http://www.pair.com/spook/evidence/plaint/priveye.htm
BBCs staff magazine Ariel also ran my advert "BBC Newsreaders Spying on my
home" for one issue in the Personal category on 8/July/1997 before it was
spotted and axed by editor Robin Reynolds; please see
webpage; http://www.pair.com/spook/evidence/plaint/ariel.htm
Beginnings
The very first incident in the "MI5/BBC Persecution" occurred in June of
1990, when a newsreader reacted to what she saw in my living room at home
as she read the news. My mother had brought an apple for me into the room,
whereupon the newsreader smirked and giggled, apparently finding this
funny. I couldn't believe what I was seeing. I carried on watching news
and other television programmes to see if presenters would show signs of
"interactive watching"; to my surprise, this happened again and
again. Unfortunately, I did not have my wits sufficiently about me to
videotape these programmes, and it is now almost impossible to obtain
recordings dating back to 1990.
Most of the "TV watching" has occurred on the news, and most of it in
summer 1990, although some as late as autumn 1993. My website has a few
extracts of what might be politicians "getting at" me, in particular John
Major and interviewer Dimbleby sharing a joke about the "Knutsford
Guardian" which is almost certainly about me.
I sold my portable TV in autumn 1990 and stopped watching television
regularly. I realise now that this may have been a mistake. What I should
have done was to watch TV and listen to the radio, but tape-record
everything and make a note of what each excerpt meant to me. I would then
be in a much stronger position as regards to evidence that I am now. That
is what I am trying to do now, but unsurprisingly the TV/radio presenters
have stopped getting at me, now they know they are being recorded.
Examples of Media Harassment
Here are a few examples which I can still remember of media harassment;
In early 1992 I was watching the BBC news with Martyn Lewis on a small
black-and-white portable television at my then home in Oxford. I threw a
term of abuse at Lewis; he flinched, then gave a grin and made a comment
from which I understood that he had been on my side, but might have
changed his mind as a result of what Id just said to him.
Victor Lewis Smith in his TV (BBC2?) program at the end of 1993, had a
taxi-driver saying, "theyre all out to get me", to which VLS replied, "but
you're quite intelligent aren't you?" (what a nice chap VLS is,
compliments no less!)
Paul Daniels the TV magician, sometime in 1990-92 (sorry I can't be more
precise but it was so long ago), made a "crying face" and put his face in
his hands, which was his way of expressing that I was frequently crying in
1990-92, and that he and other media people found my crying funny.
Kenny Everett (deceased) on some talk show, compared me to a "huge
ape" who "scratches himself"; he made some other remarks about what the
"ape" got up to which unfortunately I cant remember. (I remember that
Everetts comments were quite sympathetic and human, but were obviously
about me.)
Stephen Fry on another talkshow (Wogan I think) talking about
"masturbatory fantasies", he then referred to me with the words "you
prat"; I wonder if the studio audience knew what he was talking about and
to whom his comments were directed?
Griff Rhys Jones on Clive James' TV show, made a "lunatic face" (wide
fixed grin) to which I said to the TV that he had a "face like a horse's
arse", to which Clive James said to GRJ "did you hear that?"
Crimestoppers summer 1990, remarks by a Midlands police officer on the
programme, while Nick Ross was presenter (as far as I can remember). The
officer talked about "in car entertainment". Nick Ross said to officer,
"why don't you stop doing it?" to which he replied, "we can't while he's
like this".
BBC2 Newsnight in autumn 1993 had a piece on football hooliganism. A black
interviewee said apparently of the hooligans, but in fact of me; "they're
just idiots, carry on with the surveillance".
There was an incident with Jonathan Ross which I remember clearly; he was
on both BBC and ITV television at the same time, one (ITV I think) was
recorded, the other channel was live. Ross has a speech impediment which
causes him to pronounce his "r"s as "w". I sarcastically said something
about "Mr Woss" to the recorded channel, then turned over to where he was
live, and he repeated "Woss" with heavy emphasis and sarcasm.
On the radio, in spring 1994, Chris Tarrant made a sarcastic remark in his
morning show, saying "he says were trying to kill him, we should be done
for attempted manslaughter", to which another of the studio staff said,
"oh no, dont say that". His comment was in reply to a comparison Id made
the previous evening between my persecutors and the Polish secret police
who murdered dissidents.
Martyn Lewis Denies & Lies, But Wont in Writing
In February 1997 I wrote to BBC Viewer & Listener Correspondence and asked
them to investigate the claim that their newscasters had engaged in
"interactive watching". They replied that they had asked Martyn Lewis and
Michael Buerk whether they had engaged in such practices, and that they
had both made verbal denials to VLC, but were refusing to put their
denials in writing.
I can understand that they might think that if they were to make written
denials to me, then many other people with my condition might write to
them with similar questions. But Ive asked a couple of journalists if
theyve been writing about me, theyve made written denials, Ive believed
them, and I have not put their denials on my website because, since I
believe their denials, it would not be relevant to publish them.
To me it looks as if Lewis and Buerk are happy to lie verbally but not in
writing, because written falsehoods would place them unambiguously in the
wrong, whereas they can try to talk their way out of verbal lies if they
are ever caught, or perhaps even deny the verbal lies completely? If they
lie without shame, then why would they have any shame about future lies
about lying?
One of the strangest aspects of "TV watching" is that Buerk and Lewis have
convinced themselves that their "interactive spying" is reasonable
behaviour. Martyn Lewis thinks of himself as a "gentleman". He expressed
in 1992 that he was "on my side". If this matter ever comes out into the
open, I wonder what these newscasters will have to say for themselves, and
what the British public will make of their behaviour?
Media Persecution Evidence on my Website
You may directly access the Evidence section on my website at URL;
The category currently contains four video segments, a number of audio
files and three published articles. The first video of ITN's John Suchet
is unfortunately a mistake - after looking at it again it is obviously not
about me. The two Ken Clarke excerpts may or may not be about me; it is
funny that he should keep on harping about "paranoia" and "madness", but I
have given these ratings of only 30% certainty, as it is more likely that
they are not about me in particular, and Clarke is simply displaying the
normal prejudices against the mentally ill found in much of society.
The piece I find most interesting is the Dimbleby/John Major interview
from April 1997. I have assigned this a 90% rating. Dimbleby starts by
emphasising a report from the "Knutsford Guardian". Major recognizes
what's going on and joins in with a falsely apologetic "heaven
forfend". The emphasis is on the first syllable pronounced "nuts" in
"Knutsford", which is repeated three times. Of course this is hardly
anywhere near convincing evidence; the really clear items were all in
1990-92, and they are basically unobtainable now.
If you're reading the website, have a look at the two files from David
Hepworth's programme on GLR radio. The first one from 21/Feb/1997 has him
talking about an "embarassment" of prizes and "absolute obscene", in
reference I believe to the verbal sexual abuse that was being used against
me at the time (and which unfortunately is still current). In the second
file dated 9/May/1997 he again talks about "absolute embarrassment" of
prizes, followed by laughter. To my mind he knows I am listening to his
programme, and deliberately makes these remarks for my benefit, with very
little attempt to disguise their purpose.
Bernard Levin - "Fanatic's Fare for the Common Man"
On 21 September 1991 this article by Bernard Levin appeared in The
Times. It is reproduced in the Evidence section of the website, or may be
accessed directly at URL;
To my mind, Levin's article described the situation at the time and in
particular a recent meeting with a friend, during which I for the first
time admitted to someone other than my GP that I had been subjected to a
conspiracy of harassment over the previous year and a half.
Levin writes about a "madman running loose about London" who "bursts into
tears, and swears it is all true. And it is." I am pleased to agree with
his assertion that "it is all true" because the truth is what I presented
to my friend in September 1991 and it is what is being presented to the
readership of these articles now.
Conclusion
The harassment, in particular media persecution, was at its strongest in
1990-92. Today, I am recording everything I watch, read and listen, and
the media have pretty much given up. It is now incidents "in public" which
make up what there is of MI5s persecution. But much of the material from
1990-92 still exists in archives, although the organisations which have
those archives generally wont make the material available to the public,
for copyright and other reasons.
MI5 can no longer employ the media to persecute me, partly because
journalists now know who is behind the persecution, and also because I
would publish any instances. My mistake during 1990-92 was to not record
instances as they happened; Ive learned from that mistake, and know better
now.
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Date: 16 Dec 2007 14:08:52 GMT
From: MI5-Victim@mi5.gov.uk
Subject: MI5-Persecution: Browse the Website (14790)
Message-Id: <m07111614084985@4ax.com>
MI5 Persecution Update: Friday 25 March, 1999
If You Intend To Reply, Please Read This
Please.... keep your response to one page if you can!. Faxes over a page
or two will be deleted without being read.
The Usual Words
The persecutors-who-wont-admit-theyre-MI5 have been active again this
week. On Saturday 20/3/99 I visited Ravenscourt Park in west London, and
was verbally assaulted with the usual words, "something wrong with
him". This audio file is on the web at URL;
This afternoon (Friday 26/March) I was again verbally assaulted while
travelling by bus. The same sexual obscenity was thrown at me, and the
incident was recorded on my minidisc-walkman. Because of the deeply
offensive nature of the slander, I will not be posting this on the
website.
Keith Hill MP (Labour - Streatham), my elected representative, as ever
refuses to help.
MI5 Persecution : Browse Website
The March 1998 issue (number 42) of .net Magazine reviews the website
describing it as an "excellent site". Since August 11, 1996 over 50,000
people have browsed this website.
You are encouraged to read the web pages which include
a FAQ (frequently asked questions) section outlining the nature of the
persecutors, their methods of harassment through the media, people at work
and among the general public
an evidence section, which carries audio and video clips of media and
workplace harassment, rated according to how directly I think they refer to me
objective descriptions of the state security agencies involved
scanned texts of the complaints I have made to media and state security agencies involved
posts which have been made to netnews over the last four years on this topic
This article outlines what is to be found on the webpages, which you are
encouraged to browse for the complete story.
Frequently Asked Questions
Your excursion through the website starts with the "FAQ - Frequently Asked
Questions" portion. MI5s campaign of harassment against me has been going
on for almost 9 years, and its longevity and breadth is reflected in the
FAQ. Many thousands of people in Britain and abroad, including some
recipients of this fax, have known for many years of MI5s activities
against me. The FAQ describes the mass "Omerta suppressing its
publication"; we pretend Britain is part of the "Free World", yet the
British Secret Police, which is what MI5 are, carry on for many years a
campaign which politicians and the media know about, and rely on the
silent complicity of so many thousands of people.
The FAQs introductory article names those who are "in the know"; media
figures like Martyn Lewis, Michael Buerk, entertainment figures like Chris
Tarrant, politicians and many in the general public, "all united in a
conspiracy which breaks the laws which the UK does have regarding
harassment, and all completely uncaring for any semblance of decency or
elementary respect for individual rights.
Broadcast media play a key role in the harassment. The very first incident
in June 1990 was when a television newsreader reacted to what she saw
happen in my living room at home; such incidents of "interactive
television" are still happening in 1999. The same goes for radio stations
such as Capital FM. In spring 1994, Chris Tarrant on his Capital morning
show made an aside to someone else in the studio, about a person he didn't
identify. He said, "You know this bloke? He says we're trying to kill
him. We should be done for attempted manslaughter". Tarrant and Capital
have made strenuous efforts to avoid answering this charge.
Perhaps worst of all, MI5 have deliberately set-up many incidents in
public places such as tube stations, shops, cinemas, where they have paid
people to throw abuse at me. Since MI5 obtains funds to the tune of 160
million a year to fund its criminal activities, it has funds both to pay
its operatives and to "buy" media figures and members of the public to
take part in its campaign of persecution.
The Security Service are professional liars. They throw slanderous abuse,
yet they refuse to admit out loud that they are doing so. When challenged
about their activities through the Security Service Tribunal they lie and
deny their activities. They induce other workers and managers at places of
employment to take part in their campaign of abuse, presumably by buying
them in the same way they buy media figures.
Complaints, and Press Coverage (BBC Lies, MI5 Lies)
As you might expect I have challenged both the Security Service, through
the Security Service Tribunal, and offending broadcasters, to own up to
what they have been doing. And as you might also expect, all of these
people have lied through their teeth. Still worse, they have refused to
commit unambiguous lies on paper; they have couched their lies in
bureaucratic language, and allowed others to make false assurances and
tell lies on their behalf. So when their lies are exposed, they will then
tell further Clintonesque lies about how they werent really telling lies
in the first place!
On 6/Feb/1997 the BBC told me they would "never engage in any form of
surveillance activity such as you describe". The BBC told me Buerk and
Lewis had refused to put their lies in writing, but had stated verbal
falsehoods denying my accusations of "interactive watching" during news
broadcasts. Clearly Buerk and Lewis fear being caught and exposed, so they
hide behind their Viewer Correspondence department.
In March 1997 I issued a summons against the BBC to try to "smoke them
out". This summons was struck out as "disclosing no reasonable cause of
action", because I had acted as a Litigant-in-Person and most LiP summons
are treated thus. My case was arguable in law, so the striking out was
unjust.
In June 1997 the Security Service Tribunal wrote to me regarding the
complaint I had brought against MI5 in February. They say, "The Security
Service Tribunal have now investigated your complaint and have asked me to
inform you that no determination in your favour has been made on your
complaint." I think you can guess the contempt which I feel for the
Security Service Tribunal, who have never made a determination against
MI5, and act as merely a whitewashing body for the Security
Service. Unsurprisingly in May 1997 the Interception of Communications
Tribunal gave the same result.
The last few items of "Press Coverage" give details of mentions of the MI5
Persecution in various magazines and newspapers such as BBCs Ariel, the
Observer and .net magazine.
Evidence
Some audio and video clips of evidence have been recorded. My weakness in
this area is because most of the really unambiguous evidence would have
been obtainable in 1990-92, but I wasnt taping anything at the time, and
its very difficult to now obtain recordings from that period.
The audio clip "Life is so Hard" relates to harassment at my workplace in
Canada. In the latter half of 1996, I was sitting near to co-worker Mark
Lee, who kept coming out with words and phrases which showed MI5 were
supplying him with data from my home life. For example, I would say
something on the telephone at home, and the following day he would repeat
verbatim what I had said. When Mark Lee saw I was recording what he was
saying, he started to make his remarks more ambiguous, or make the obvious
ones out of earshot of the recorder.
However, during the evening of 12 November 1996, at home in my apartment
(flat to you UK-ers), I said "life is so hard, and then you die". A
nihilistic, negative thing to say, but quite distinctive. The following
day, 13 November, Mark said loudly, "life is so hard eh, and then you
die" followed by loud laughter. I captured this on my tape-walkman and the
computer-audio file is posted on the website.
There are a number of other audio files in the websites "Evidence" area
demonstrating the abuse to which MI5 subject me to through their paid
agents.
Also in this section is a very interesting article by journalist Bernard
Levin, which followed a meeting I had with a friend in 1991, and to my
mind describes in some details Levins "artists impression" of the
meeting. He talks about a "madman" who "bursts into tears, and swears it
is all true. And it is."
Internet Newsgroup (Usenet) archive
From May 1995 until the present day, this matter has been discussed
exhaustively on internet newsgroups. The most interesting articles from
the first two years of posts are documented here. This area is worth
reading since most of the questions which the reader would ask, have been
asked at some time or another by someone on usenet. Perhaps the very first
article posted sums it all up so succinctly;
Date: Thu May 4 18:27:24 1995
Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy
Subject: BBC's Hidden Shame
Remember the two-way televisions in George Orwell's 1984? The ones which
watched you back? Which you could never get rid of, only the sound could
be turned down?
Well the country which brought Orwell into the world has made his
nightmare follow into the world after him. Since 1990 the British have
been waging war against one of their own citizens using surveillance to
invade privacy and a campaign of abuse in the transmitted media in their
efforts to humiliate their victim.
And the most remarkable thing about it is that what they do is not even
illegal - the UK has no laws to protect the privacy of its citizens, nor
does it proscribe harassment or abuse except in the case of racial abuse.
A lot of people in England know this to be going on, yet so far they have
maintained perfect "omerta"; not a sound, not a squeak has escaped into
the English press, and for all the covert harassment absolutely nothing
has come out into the public domain.
Have the British gone mad? I think we should be told.
So how much deeper will the persecutors-who-wont-admit-theyre-MI5 sink in
their campaign of lies and intimidation? Each time I thought they could
sink no lower, they have managed to surprise me. You thought it could
never happen here? When the MI5 British Secret Police make their smears
against me, it is the corruption of the Establishment, which they are part
of, that is demonstrated.
14790
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Date: 16 Dec 2007 11:16:23 GMT
From: MI5-Victim@mi5.gov.uk
Subject: MI5-Persecution: How Could It Be True? (1692)
Message-Id: <m07111611162079@4ax.com>
MI5 Persecution: How Could It Be True?
If you have the patience to read these articles you will be struck by how
apparently fantastic the claims being put forward are. You may ask
yourself why such seemingly nonsensical assertions are made. This matter
has been discussed on the Internets UK-local newsgroups for three years
now, and the denizens of the uk.misc newsgroup (the so-called
"miscreants") have come up with a number of theories to explain these
posts; it has been variously suggested that they are a troll (an
artificial creation for the amusement of its author), that they are made
by MI5 themselves with the purpose of discrediting other conspiracy
theories, and that the poster is mentally ill and the articles are
symptomatic of the illness (the view held by most miscreants).
Are these claims the product of mental illness, or is that just a cover?
The most obvious explanation, that the claims made result from the
admitted mental illness of the author, is the one which the persecutors
intend be the one accepted without consideration being given to the
possibility of the claims being true. The persecutors have actually been
very clever about this, both in selecting as their target someone who was
known from school or university as being borderline schizophrenic, and in
ensuring the nature of their persecution corresponds to what often
features in the delusions of a schizophrenic.
The very first incident of the persecution occurred in June 1990, when I
was still a student at university in London. It consisted of a reaction
(giggling) from the newsreader, Sue Carpenter of ITN, to what she saw
happening in my living-room at my parents home where I was living. Before
your imagination gets the better of you I should make clear that what the
newsreader was reacting to was not too embarrassing in nature; my mother
had brought an apple for me into the the room, and Sue Carpenter found
this amusing.
I recognized that Carpenter had reacted to what she had seen in my
living-room, yet this idea still seemed completely fantastic to me. My
reaction was to continue watching television, particularly the news, to
see if this incident would be repeated. It was, many times, both on BBC
and ITV. An intelligent person would have thought to obtain a video
recorder and capture some of these incidents in order to try to explain to
an observer what he saw in these broadcasts. Unfortunately, I failed this
test of intelligence, since I did not record these programmes. I have
recently attempted to obtain from ITN tapes of their news programmes
dating back to summer 1990, but, unhappily, they have advised me that they
do not have complete programmes including newsreaders comments dating back
to that period.
From the outset, the persecutors structured their actions to ensure that
any complaint would be met with disbelief, and dismissed as
delusional. This is why they chose as their target someone who was known
at school and university to be borderline mentally ill; and it is why they
fired the first shots of their campaign through the broadcast
media. Schizophrenics commonly believe the media harass them; it would be
exceptional for "full-duplex television" to exist in reality. Those with
schizophrenia also commonly believe people are talking about them; again,
the persecutors have shown themselves very rarely, but act through
intermediaries, both in the workplace, and in public and during travel.
Mental illness is not the cause of these claims, but the simulation of its
symptoms is a cover used by the persecutors to deny their victim the
ability to have his compaints believed.
What evidence exists to support these claims of "interactive
television/radio";?
Quite frankly, I have very little evidence to support my claims. You may
examine the "Evidence" area of my website to see such evidence as I have
been able to gather. None of it is remotely conclusive. The "smoking
guns" all date back to 1990/91, and it is really rather late now to start
trying to look for material dating back seven or eight years. In 1997 I
started tape-recording every programme I watched or listened to. I also
started carrying with me a high-fidelity minidisc-recorder with good
quality microphone to catch incidents of public harassment, but this also
has not been as successful or conclusive as I had hoped.
Perhaps the best item in the "Evidence" section is the audio file "Life is
so hard" (it is labelled with Garfield the cartoon character on the site),
which I have given a certainty level of 100%. This item relates to
harassment at my workplace in Canada in 1996. A co-worker called Mark was
coming up with phrases and expressions which were repeating things being
said at my Canadian residence, consequently leading me to believe that my
apartment and home phone were bugged, and that the persecutors were
passing their gathered information on to Mark. On one particular evening I
said in my apartment, "life is so hard, and then you die". The following
day I was able to record Mark saying exactly the same phrase at work.
Unfortunately when "they" know you are recording them, they simply dont
say things which would unambiguously show harassment. When Mark the
co-worker knew he was being recorded, he only made his remarks out of
range of the recorder, for example outside the building. When the TV
newscasters or radio disc jockeys know they are being taped, they limit
themselves to saying things which are ambiguous, which even in my mind may
or may not be personally directed against me.
Who knows about this persecution?
Surprisingly many people know. People in the media, such as BBC and ITN
newscasters including Martyn Lewis and Michael Buerk, and radio disc
jockeys such as Chris Tarrant of Capital Radio, know what is going on, and
take part in it. Some co-workers at my former workplaces in England and
Canada have known about the harassment. Quite a few people in the general
public are also included. I believe the police are aware of the
persecution, but, unfortunately, have chosen not to take any action to
stop it. I have complained at my local police station in London several
years ago, and I have stated on the internet newsgroups that I have done
so, hence the police will be well aware of my wish to see the matter
resolved. I believe their inaction denotes a dereliction of duty, but
without good evidence, I am powerless to compel them to take steps to
prevent further harassment, or deal with what has already taken place.
What is the purpose of sending these faxes?
These faxes are being sent to three distinct groups of people, namely
Members of Parliament, the media, and diplomats & legal people. As you
will have observed I am making use of the email-to-fax gateway at Demon
Internet to send these faxes. I am forced to use this gateway since I
currently live in North America, and cannot afford the high cost of direct
phone calls to the UK.
My purpose in publicising my claims is firstly to discourage the
persecutors from continuing their campaign, and also to attempt to bring
their campaign out into the open, and thus perhaps identify the
persecutors. Neither aim has been achieved yet, but I hope that with
sufficient stimulation these aims may yet be accomplished.
The problem with the second aim is that those who read this article will
fall into two groups, those who dont know anything about the persecution
and consequently will disbelieve my claims as delusional, and those who do
know about the harassment and may have some idea of who is behind it, but
realise that if the harassers are exposed and the truth brought out into
the open, then powerful British institutions will substantially lose
prestige, and be exposed to ridicule.
It would give me hope to believe that these faxes will create a third
group of people, those who find out that I am telling the truth, and who
follow their consciences in standing up and seeing justice done. Only time
will tell if this hope will be realized.
1692
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