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Sat Dec 15 16:09:41 2007
Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2007 13:09:08 -0800 (PST)
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Perl-Users Digest Sat, 15 Dec 2007 Volume: 11 Number: 1120
Today's topics:
Re: Archive::Zip on windows <ben@morrow.me.uk>
Re: FAQ 4.3 Why isn't my octal data interpreted correct <brian.d.foy@gmail.com>
Re: FAQ 4.3 Why isn't my octal data interpreted correct <brian.d.foy@gmail.com>
Re: Get values from hash "in order" <hjp-usenet2@hjp.at>
Re: Get values from hash "in order" <jurgenex@hotmail.com>
Have sub routine handle file OR array? <itfred@cdw.com>
Re: Have sub routine handle file OR array? <jurgenex@hotmail.com>
Help: Auto login FTP modules <openlinuxsource@gmail.com>
Re: Help: Auto login FTP modules <rkb@i.frys.com>
Re: Help: Auto login FTP modules <nospam@somewhere.com>
perlcc failing <simonsharry@gmail.com>
Re: perlcc failing <joost@zeekat.nl>
Re: perlcc failing <ben@morrow.me.uk>
Problems with PAR <jsmith@drexel.edu>
Re: Problems with PAR <ben@morrow.me.uk>
Re: Question about "undef'ing" variables <m@rtij.nl.invlalid>
Re: simple bar chart module <Peter@PSDT.com>
Re: Using the DBI to connect to an Oracle server w/o co <hjp-usenet2@hjp.at>
Re: value or reference inside foreach <expr>? <krahnj@telus.net>
Re: value or reference inside foreach <expr>? <krahnj@telus.net>
Would you stop for a moment?! <aassime_91@hotmail.com>
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Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2007 12:02:04 +0000
From: Ben Morrow <ben@morrow.me.uk>
Subject: Re: Archive::Zip on windows
Message-Id: <sasc35-0hc.ln1@osiris.mauzo.dyndns.org>
Quoth Ron Bergin <rkb@i.frys.com>:
> On Dec 14, 5:12 pm, Ben Morrow <b...@morrow.me.uk> wrote:
> >
> > Try specifying a separate path to store the file as in the zip: a zip
> > member cannot have a volume specification. So:
> That is not correct. The volume specification will be stripped from
> the first parameter, but if you supply it in the optional second
> parameter, it will be retained in the zip.
It's not a volume spec in that case, as zips use Unix filespecs. It's
just a directory called 'c:'. I've no idea what would happen if you
tried to extract such a zip under Win32.
Ben
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Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2007 11:57:40 -0600
From: brian d foy <brian.d.foy@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: FAQ 4.3 Why isn't my octal data interpreted correctly?
Message-Id: <151220071157405533%brian.d.foy@gmail.com>
In article
<3b86f24d-0660-4dd9-8e39-78e8283063eb@d21g2000prf.googlegroups.com>,
Florian Kaufmann <sensorflo@gmail.com> wrote:
> > This problem shows up most often when people try using "chmod()",
>
> "This problem shows up ...." is a bit misleading. When reading it for
> the first time, it is not very clear to which problem this text
> fragment refers to.
Well, the only thing "this" could refer to is the title since nothing
comes before it. It's not how I would have written it, but it ins't
confusing.
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Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2007 13:16:55 -0600
From: brian d foy <brian.d.foy@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: FAQ 4.3 Why isn't my octal data interpreted correctly?
Message-Id: <151220071316550888%brian.d.foy@gmail.com>
In article <151220071157405533%brian.d.foy@gmail.com>, brian d foy
<brian.d.foy@gmail.com> wrote:
> In article
> <3b86f24d-0660-4dd9-8e39-78e8283063eb@d21g2000prf.googlegroups.com>,
> Florian Kaufmann <sensorflo@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > This problem shows up most often when people try using "chmod()",
> >
> > "This problem shows up ...." is a bit misleading. When reading it for
> > the first time, it is not very clear to which problem this text
> > fragment refers to.
>
> Well, the only thing "this" could refer to is the title since nothing
> comes before it. It's not how I would have written it, but it ins't
> confusing.
I don't know what I was thinking: my answer is complete crap. Let me
look at the answer again and fix this.
Thanks.
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Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2007 15:20:06 +0100
From: "Peter J. Holzer" <hjp-usenet2@hjp.at>
Subject: Re: Get values from hash "in order"
Message-Id: <slrnfm7okn.pu9.hjp-usenet2@hrunkner.hjp.at>
On 2007-12-13 00:35, Jürgen Exner <jurgenex@hotmail.com> wrote:
> still just me wrote:
> [about hashes]
>> Is there some advantage to Perl in them storing in random order?
>> Perhaps some internal storage efficiency?
>
> Actually the order in which e.g. each() or keys() cycles through the items
> of a hash is not random at all but it is well defined and guaranteed to be
> the same for every access to that hash.
Actually, that's only guaranteed if no elements are added or removed
between accesses. Adding or removing elements may completely change the
order.
Actually I'm surprised that
#!/usr/bin/perl
for ( "aa" .. "bz") {
$x{$_} = 1;
}
for (keys %x) {
print "$_\n";
}
__END__
always produces the same file. IIRC some early 5.8.x version introduced
a random seed value which would ensure that the order is different for
each run. Apparently this was dropped again.
hp
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Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2007 15:07:45 GMT
From: "Jürgen Exner" <jurgenex@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Get values from hash "in order"
Message-Id: <55S8j.2327$DO.1840@trndny08>
Peter J. Holzer wrote:
> On 2007-12-13 00:35, Jürgen Exner <jurgenex@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> still just me wrote:
>> [about hashes]
>>> Is there some advantage to Perl in them storing in random order?
>>> Perhaps some internal storage efficiency?
>>
>> Actually the order in which e.g. each() or keys() cycles through the
>> items of a hash is not random at all but it is well defined and
>> guaranteed to be the same for every access to that hash.
>
> Actually, that's only guaranteed if no elements are added or removed
> between accesses. Adding or removing elements may completely change
> the order.
Quite right, should have mentioned that. Thank you.
jue
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Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2007 10:49:19 -0500
From: Fred <itfred@cdw.com>
Subject: Have sub routine handle file OR array?
Message-Id: <YYydnScacsUdav7anZ2dnUVZ_u_inZ2d@comcast.com>
In the code snippet below a file is opened and processed one line at a
time. Is there a way this same subroutine could handle an array OR
file,depending what is passed to it? For example, if all the lines in
$file were read into an array named @myfile. Then it would read "while (
@myfile ) {".
-Thanks
sub MySub
{
my ($self, $file) = @_;
die "usage: $0 <file> \n" unless @ARGV;
open(FILE,"<$file") or die "Can't open $file: $!";
while ( <FILE> ) {
@line = split /,/;
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Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2007 16:30:26 GMT
From: "Jürgen Exner" <jurgenex@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Have sub routine handle file OR array?
Message-Id: <CiT8j.2244$Xh1.653@trndny03>
Fred wrote:
> In the code snippet below a file is opened and processed one line at a
> time. Is there a way this same subroutine could handle an array OR
> file,depending what is passed to it?
You could use ref() to identify the type of argument that is passed to the
function and then have alternative code paths for arrays resp. files.
jue
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Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2007 22:12:18 +0800
From: Amy Lee <openlinuxsource@gmail.com>
Subject: Help: Auto login FTP modules
Message-Id: <pan.2007.12.15.14.12.18.862030@gmail.com>
Hello,
Is there any FTP auto-login function in Perl modules?
Thanks.
Regards,
Amy Lee
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Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2007 09:32:53 -0800 (PST)
From: Ron Bergin <rkb@i.frys.com>
Subject: Re: Help: Auto login FTP modules
Message-Id: <72a1ba00-d838-4c31-b390-8ece92b06dbb@e6g2000prf.googlegroups.com>
On Dec 15, 6:12 am, Amy Lee <openlinuxsou...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hello,
>
> Is there any FTP auto-login function in Perl modules?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Regards,
>
> Amy Lee
I assume you mean that you're wanting to avoid including your username/
password in the script. That is accomplished by using ssh keys.
You'll want to look at Net::SFTP or Net::SSH2::SFTP or Net::SCP
http://search.cpan.org/~dbrobins/Net-SFTP-0.10/lib/Net/SFTP.pm
http://search.cpan.org/~dbrobins/Net-SSH2-0.18/lib/Net/SSH2/SFTP.pm
http://search.cpan.org/~ivan/Net-SCP-0.08/SCP.pm
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Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2007 15:52:46 -0500
From: "Thrill5" <nospam@somewhere.com>
Subject: Re: Help: Auto login FTP modules
Message-Id: <h66dnYeFZ68Do_nanZ2dnUVZ_uyinZ2d@comcast.com>
"Ron Bergin" <rkb@i.frys.com> wrote in message
news:72a1ba00-d838-4c31-b390-8ece92b06dbb@e6g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
> On Dec 15, 6:12 am, Amy Lee <openlinuxsou...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hello,
>>
>> Is there any FTP auto-login function in Perl modules?
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Amy Lee
>
> I assume you mean that you're wanting to avoid including your username/
> password in the script. That is accomplished by using ssh keys.
> You'll want to look at Net::SFTP or Net::SSH2::SFTP or Net::SCP
>
> http://search.cpan.org/~dbrobins/Net-SFTP-0.10/lib/Net/SFTP.pm
> http://search.cpan.org/~dbrobins/Net-SSH2-0.18/lib/Net/SSH2/SFTP.pm
> http://search.cpan.org/~ivan/Net-SCP-0.08/SCP.pm
The above solution requires that you have an SFTP or SCP server installed,
if you need FTP try Net:FTP
http://search.cpan.org/~gbarr/libnet-1.22/Net/FTP.pm
------------------------------
Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2007 04:21:01 -0800 (PST)
From: Harry <simonsharry@gmail.com>
Subject: perlcc failing
Message-Id: <db79d20e-4059-4d34-a40b-80161c5a22be@d27g2000prf.googlegroups.com>
Hi,
I'm unable to get perlcc to convert my perl-prog.pl program to an exe.
The program runs just fine as a Perl script.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks.
/Harry
C:\>perlcc perl-prog.pl
C:\apps\Perl\bin/perlcc.bat: perl-prog.pl did not compile, which can't
happen:
Starting compile
Walking tree
Exporter saved (it is in Getopt::Std's @ISA)
Prescan
Saving methods
Can't locate object method "IVX" via package "B::NV" at C:/apps/Perl/
lib/B/C.pm line 650.
CHECK failed--call queue aborted.
C:\>perl -v
This is perl, v5.8.8 built for MSWin32-x86-multi-thread
(with 18 registered patches, see perl -V for more detail)
Copyright 1987-2007, Larry Wall
Binary build 822 [280952] provided by ActiveState http://www.ActiveState.com
Built Jul 31 2007 19:34:48
Perl may be copied only under the terms of either the Artistic License
or the
GNU General Public License, which may be found in the Perl 5 source
kit.
------------------------------
Date: 15 Dec 2007 12:39:56 GMT
From: Joost Diepenmaat <joost@zeekat.nl>
Subject: Re: perlcc failing
Message-Id: <4763cb1c$0$21130$e4fe514c@dreader29.news.xs4all.nl>
On Sat, 15 Dec 2007 04:21:01 -0800, Harry wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I'm unable to get perlcc to convert my perl-prog.pl program to an exe.
> The program runs just fine as a Perl script.
Forget it. perlcc is out of date and is removed in perl 5.10.
You can try PAR:
http://search.cpan.org/~smueller/PAR-0.976/lib/PAR/FAQ.pod
Or try one of the commercial tools (perl2exe or the activestate tool)
Joost.
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Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2007 12:44:48 +0000
From: Ben Morrow <ben@morrow.me.uk>
Subject: Re: perlcc failing
Message-Id: <0ruc35-3nc.ln1@osiris.mauzo.dyndns.org>
Quoth Harry <simonsharry@gmail.com>:
>
> I'm unable to get perlcc to convert my perl-prog.pl program to an exe.
> The program runs just fine as a Perl script.
perlcc is broken. It has never worked properly (it was always marked
'experimental'), and has been removed from 5.10. Whatever you are trying
to acheive with it is probably better done using PAR.
Ben
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Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2007 12:59:48 GMT
From: Justin Smith <jsmith@drexel.edu>
Subject: Problems with PAR
Message-Id: <8dQ8j.163$L91.143@trndny05>
I'm running
Linux jsmith-desktop 2.6.22-14-generic #1 SMP Sun Oct 14 21:45:15 GMT
2007 x86_64 GNU/Linux
and am trying to package a perl program that uses many modules.
pp seems to run correctly but when I try to run the output, I get:
"catfile" is not exported by the File::Spec module
Can't continue after import errors at Tk.pm line 18
BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at Tk.pm line 18.
Compilation failed in require at script/diary.pl line 17.
BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at script/diary.pl line 17.
This happens even if I just try to package the modules into a Perl file,
i.e. run
pp -P diary.pl
Line 17 of my program has 'Use Tk;'.
Any suggestions?
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Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2007 14:05:22 +0000
From: Ben Morrow <ben@morrow.me.uk>
Subject: Re: Problems with PAR
Message-Id: <2i3d35-11d.ln1@osiris.mauzo.dyndns.org>
Quoth Justin Smith <jsmith@drexel.edu>:
> I'm running
>
> Linux jsmith-desktop 2.6.22-14-generic #1 SMP Sun Oct 14 21:45:15 GMT
> 2007 x86_64 GNU/Linux
>
> and am trying to package a perl program that uses many modules.
>
> pp seems to run correctly but when I try to run the output, I get:
>
> "catfile" is not exported by the File::Spec module
> Can't continue after import errors at Tk.pm line 18
> BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at Tk.pm line 18.
> Compilation failed in require at script/diary.pl line 17.
> BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at script/diary.pl line 17.
You're using Tk-804.027_501? Upgrade to _502: _501 has the line
use File::Spec qw(catfile);
which isn't useful: File::Spec doesn't export anything, and doesn't even
have an ->import method. Why running it under pp ends up calling
Exporter->import I don't know; just
pp -o foo -e 'use File::Spec qw/catfile/'
fails in the same way, so it's nothing to do with Tk. I suspect a bug in
pp (or PAR): you could report it at rt.cpan.org.
Ben
------------------------------
Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2007 20:25:28 +0100
From: Martijn Lievaart <m@rtij.nl.invlalid>
Subject: Re: Question about "undef'ing" variables
Message-Id: <pan.2007.12.15.19.25.28@rtij.nl.invlalid>
On Sat, 15 Dec 2007 01:01:20 -0800, Joe Smith wrote:
> Petr Vileta wrote:
>> When I want to write some script for 3 nested loops then I probably
>> will tend to write some like for my $a(1..3) {
>> for my $b(1..3) {
>> for my $c(1..3) {
>> do_something($a,$b,$c);
>> }
>> }
>> }
>
> Old FORTRAN programmers don't use a, b, c for that: single-letter
> integer variables are I, J, K, etc.
Thanks for bringing up old memories. NOT! :-)
M4
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Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2007 16:30:13 GMT
From: Peter Scott <Peter@PSDT.com>
Subject: Re: simple bar chart module
Message-Id: <pan.2007.12.15.16.30.12.607730@PSDT.com>
On Fri, 14 Dec 2007 11:10:59 -0600, Ted Zlatanov wrote:
> On Fri, 14 Dec 2007 15:19:03 +0000 Ben Morrow <ben@morrow.me.uk> wrote:
>
> BM> Quoth smallpond <smallpond@juno.com>:
> BM> To the OP: what do you actually want? As in, what sort of output do you
> BM> want? If you want an image, you're unlikely to find a non-XS module that
> BM> will help; similarly if you want your program to open a window. If
> BM> you're happy with a textual output format like SVG, then there's
> BM> SVG::TT::Graph.
>
> Google has recently released a Charts API, and there's even a
> Google::Chart module on CPAN (although it's not yet fully functional).
> So that's a non-XS method that's pretty fast if you can get to the
> Google servers and produces nice PNG images...
And if Flash is okay there is the sexy Open Flash Chart:
http://teethgrinder.co.uk/open-flash-chart/
http://search.cpan.org/~drolsky/Chart-OFC-0.02/lib/Chart/OFC.pm
Also pure Perl. Unfortunately, it depends on MooseX::Types, which depends
on Class::MOP, which has a small piece of XS. But the OP didn't rule out
compilation altogether, was more objecting to building things outside of
Perl modules.
--
Peter Scott
http://www.perlmedic.com/
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Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2007 21:48:48 +0100
From: "Peter J. Holzer" <hjp-usenet2@hjp.at>
Subject: Re: Using the DBI to connect to an Oracle server w/o connecting to a database
Message-Id: <slrnfm8fdj.8c3.hjp-usenet2@hrunkner.hjp.at>
On 2007-12-14 14:46, Ted Zlatanov <tzz@lifelogs.com> wrote:
> On 13 Dec 2007 18:04:48 GMT xhoster@gmail.com wrote:
> x> Tim <google@hoodfamily.org> wrote:
>>> or, more similarly:
>>>
>>> sqlplus /nolog @my.sql
>>>
>>> where my.sql might be:
>>>
>>> connect user/passwd@database;
>>> select ...
>>> etc.
>>>
>>> I'm thinking this is not possible, but I hope it is. Thanks.
>
> x> Why would you want that? The point of DBI is that it provides a perl
> x> interface for interactively communicating with Oracle. If you just
> x> want to feed a text file through sqlplus with no interaction, then why
> x> bother trying to do it with DBI?
>
> Well this *is* a valid question: how to mix DBI connect calls with DBI
> SQL statements? See in his input how he connected to a particular
> database through *user input* and not code?
That "user input" is a script. The scripting language is sqlplus, not
perl. You can do the same thing in a perl script:
$dbh = DBI->connect("dbi:Oracle:database", "user", "passwd");
my $result = $dbh->selectall_arrayref("select ..."):
for (@$result) {
...
}
> I don't think you can do
> that with SQL statements passed to DBI, you need to do a new connect().
Yes. Just as sqlplus does.
sqlplus handles two types of commands: SQL queries are passed on to the
database and sqlplus then displays the result. Sqlplus commands are
handled by sqlplus itself: These commands are for things like connecting
to databases, formatting the output, spooling to files, etc. They are
syntactically different from sql queries: They are terminated by a
newline, not a ; or / character.
If you use DBI, you have the same distinction: You have DBI functions,
which are processed by the local perl interpreter, and you have SQL
queries which are processed by the remote database.
The syntax difference is greater because perl has evolved from C, awk,
etc., and not from SQL, but it's the same principle.
hp
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Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2007 18:02:59 GMT
From: "John W. Krahn" <krahnj@telus.net>
Subject: Re: value or reference inside foreach <expr>?
Message-Id: <476416D2.CBE043AE@telus.net>
Todd wrote:
>
> John W. Krahn wrote:
> > Because @{shift} is the same as @shift so you are modifying the @shift
> > array.
> > Syntactically {shift} is the same as 'shift' which is also why barewords
> > as hash keys don't require quotes around them.
>
> In documents I see in `@{...}', the `{...}' is treated as a BLOCK,
In Perl many operators are overloaded to do different things in
different contexts.
perldoc perlsyn
[ SNIP ]
Simple statements
The only kind of simple statement is an expression
evaluated for its side effects. Every simple statement
must be terminated with a semicolon, unless it is the
final statement in a block, in which case the semicolon is
optional. (A semicolon is still encouraged there if the
block takes up more than one line, because you may
eventually add another line.) Note that there are some
operators like `eval {}' and `do {}' that look like
compound statements, but aren't (they're just TERMs in an
expression), and thus need an explicit termination if used
as the last item in a statement.
[ SNIP ]
Compound statements
In Perl, a sequence of statements that defines a scope is
called a block. Sometimes a block is delimited by the
file containing it (in the case of a required file, or the
program as a whole), and sometimes a block is delimited by
the extent of a string (in the case of an eval).
But generally, a block is delimited by curly brackets,
also known as braces. We will call this syntactic
construct a BLOCK.
However in the expression:
push @{ $hash{ q{no block here} } }, { this => qq{is}, qw{ NOT a block }
=> qr{.} };
The braces are used for a hash key, as quoting delimiters, to
dereference an array, and to create an anonymous hash, but none of these
uses constitutes a block.
John
--
use Perl;
program
fulfillment
------------------------------
Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2007 18:09:44 GMT
From: "John W. Krahn" <krahnj@telus.net>
Subject: Re: value or reference inside foreach <expr>?
Message-Id: <47641867.CFDDF74E@telus.net>
Todd wrote:
>
> John W. Krahn wrote:
> > Syntactically {shift} is the same as 'shift' which is also why barewords
> > as hash keys don't require quotes around them.
>
> shift is not a bareword, it's an built-in function name. Does this
> still make sense?
If it is used in context as a function, then yes. If it is used in
context as a bareword then it is a bareword.
John
--
use Perl;
program
fulfillment
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Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2007 07:00:47 -0800 (PST)
From: "=?windows-1256?B?2sfV4yDayM8gx+Hh2O3d?=" <aassime_91@hotmail.com>
Subject: Would you stop for a moment?!
Message-Id: <9df5a4a7-1d87-429a-9660-5e6f203e9084@s19g2000prg.googlegroups.com>
Excuse me!!
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#to almanac@ruby.oce.orst.edu with the command "send perl-users x.y",
#where x is the volume number and y is the issue number.
#For other requests pertaining to the digest, send mail to
#perl-users-request@ruby.oce.orst.edu. Do not waste your time or mine
#sending perl questions to the -request address, I don't have time to
#answer them even if I did know the answer.
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