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Today's topics:
Re: My multipost-detecting usenet bot (David Filmer) usenet@DavidFilmer.com
Re: My multipost-detecting usenet bot (David Filmer) <sherm@Sherm-Pendleys-Computer.local>
Re: My multipost-detecting usenet bot (David Filmer) usenet@DavidFilmer.com
Re: My multipost-detecting usenet bot (David Filmer) <john@castleamber.com>
Re: My multipost-detecting usenet bot (David Filmer) <john@castleamber.com>
Re: Please participate in a non-profit academic researc minorpre57@alumnidirector.com
Re: Please participate in a non-profit academic researc axel@white-eagle.invalid.uk
Re: Please participate in a non-profit academic researc <sherm@Sherm-Pendleys-Computer.local>
Re: Please participate in a non-profit academic researc <1usa@llenroc.ude.invalid>
Re: Proposal: extending perldoc -f <jgibson@mail.arc.nasa.gov>
Re: Pulling data based on date time returns error xhoster@gmail.com
Re: Pulling data based on date time returns error devon_banks@comcast.net
why does the regrex do not work? <Amaninder.Saini@gmail.com>
Re: why does the regrex do not work? <mritty@gmail.com>
Re: why does the regrex do not work? <syscjm@gwu.edu>
Re: why does the regrex do not work? <Amaninder.Saini@gmail.com>
Re: Workflow Systems--Multiposted <rvtol+news@isolution.nl>
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Date: 16 Aug 2006 11:06:32 -0700
From: usenet@DavidFilmer.com
Subject: Re: My multipost-detecting usenet bot (David Filmer)
Message-Id: <1155751591.986395.245760@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>
John Bokma wrote:
> 1 - My Usenet client shows your bot's post as a new post instead
> of a follow up to the original multipost. No idea if this is a bug
> in my client, but if not, can this be fixed?
I wouldn't want to suggest that your reader has a bug, but I do set
"References" and "In-Reply-To" headers. Even in GG, this shows info up
(see http://tinyurl.com/mo4op):
References: <1155737247.291882.82220@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>
<1155736963.037081.191580@74g2000cwt.googlegroups.com>
In-Reply-To: <1155736963.037081.191580@74g2000cwt.googlegroups.com>
I'm not sure why your reader wouldn't show that as well.
> 2 - Yesterday a fine example of one of my worries popped up: I saw
> a post as a reply to a cancelled spam message.
The message isn't cancelled in GigaNews (as of this writing). And even
GG also still shows it.
> that there is some time between spam being posted and the cancel,
> so your bot might reply to each multiposted spam message.
The bot won't reply to a message less than five minutes old. Maybe I
should open that up a bit... but how long do cancels take to run? I
thought they ran within a minute or two on modern newsservers.
> See also Dr. Ruud's reply, <ebviq3.1c0.1@news.isolution.nl> which is a
> reply to your bot replying to, again, a cancelled spam message.
As I mentioned to the good Doc, I believe a good (but very simple) spam
filtering strategy would be to look for web URLs in the body of the
message. Spam almost always has a web URL, but I don't ever remember
seeing a newbie post with a web URL. I think such a filtering rule
should be nearly 100% effective.
> Personally I again strongly advice to stop the bot until at least some
> kind of voting has taken place.
I'm still open to such an idea of a vote, but unsure how to implement
it. The info you kindly provided previously on the topic seems pretty
focused on newsgroup creation; it doesn't seem that it is designed to
be used (or has ever been used) for in-forum voting. How did CLPMisc
ever ratify the posting guidelines? I wasn't around back then...
--
David Filmer (http://DavidFilmer.com)
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Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2006 14:53:53 -0400
From: Sherm Pendley <sherm@Sherm-Pendleys-Computer.local>
Subject: Re: My multipost-detecting usenet bot (David Filmer)
Message-Id: <m2zme41pha.fsf@Sherm-Pendleys-Computer.local>
usenet@DavidFilmer.com writes:
> As I mentioned to the good Doc, I believe a good (but very simple) spam
> filtering strategy would be to look for web URLs in the body of the
> message. Spam almost always has a web URL, but I don't ever remember
> seeing a newbie post with a web URL. I think such a filtering rule
> should be nearly 100% effective.
It could monitor a few other groups that have nothing whatsoever to do with
Perl, CGI, or even programming - rec.food.cooking, for example. A message
that appears in a variety of unrelated groups is likely to be spam.
sherm--
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Date: 16 Aug 2006 12:41:10 -0700
From: usenet@DavidFilmer.com
Subject: Re: My multipost-detecting usenet bot (David Filmer)
Message-Id: <1155757270.756626.187390@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com>
Sherm Pendley wrote:
> usenet@DavidFilmer.com writes:
> It could monitor a few other groups that have nothing whatsoever to do with
> Perl, CGI, or even programming - rec.food.cooking, for example. A message
> that appears in a variety of unrelated groups is likely to be spam.
That was also suggested previously... Lemme give that some thought.
To effectively cross-reference even a very small percentage of usenet,
I think I would need to look at several hundred groups.
My main concern is that I don't want to go astray of my usenet
provider's ToS, and hitting several hundred groups repeatedly could
possibly be interpreted as abusive (I'm not sure, since GigaNews
doesn't specify a specific abuse threshold. They don't prohibit bots,
as some providers do, but a bot that did something like that might
constitute abuse in their opinion).
--
David Filmer (http://DavidFilmer.com)
------------------------------
Date: 16 Aug 2006 20:40:46 GMT
From: John Bokma <john@castleamber.com>
Subject: Re: My multipost-detecting usenet bot (David Filmer)
Message-Id: <Xns98219F7D2E2CAcastleamber@130.133.1.4>
usenet@DavidFilmer.com wrote:
> John Bokma wrote:
>> 1 - My Usenet client shows your bot's post as a new post instead
>> of a follow up to the original multipost. No idea if this is a
>> bug in my client, but if not, can this be fixed?
>
> I wouldn't want to suggest that your reader has a bug, but I do set
> "References" and "In-Reply-To" headers. Even in GG, this shows info up
> (see http://tinyurl.com/mo4op):
>
> References: <1155737247.291882.82220@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>
> <1155736963.037081.191580@74g2000cwt.googlegroups.com>
> In-Reply-To: <1155736963.037081.191580@74g2000cwt.googlegroups.com>
>
> I'm not sure why your reader wouldn't show that as well.
I see:
Subject: Workflow Systems--Multiposted
Maybe the missing Re: breaks Xnews? Moreover, I suggest to follow the
netiquette: if you change the subject do it like:
New subject (was: old subject).
I suggest something like:
Multiposted (was: Workflow Systems)
Not sure if there should be a Re: in front though :-)
>> 2 - Yesterday a fine example of one of my worries popped up: I saw
>> a post as a reply to a cancelled spam message.
>
> The message isn't cancelled in GigaNews (as of this writing). And
> even GG also still shows it.
The (my) problem is that I now start to see replies to canceled messages
:-(
>> that there is some time between spam being posted and the cancel,
>> so your bot might reply to each multiposted spam message.
>
> The bot won't reply to a message less than five minutes old. Maybe I
> should open that up a bit... but how long do cancels take to run? I
> thought they ran within a minute or two on modern newsservers.
Depends on who cancels them :-) It can be hours :-) But yeah, if you
wait to long, other people might have been replying to the multiposter.
OTOH, I would check first if the multiposter has had any replies. If he
has, then don't post (IIRC you do that now?)
>> See also Dr. Ruud's reply, <ebviq3.1c0.1@news.isolution.nl> which is
>> a reply to your bot replying to, again, a cancelled spam message.
>
> As I mentioned to the good Doc, I believe a good (but very simple)
> spam filtering strategy would be to look for web URLs in the body of
> the message. Spam almost always has a web URL, but I don't ever
> remember seeing a newbie post with a web URL. I think such a
> filtering rule should be nearly 100% effective.
As long as there are more false negatives then positives I am happy :-)
>> Personally I again strongly advice to stop the bot until at least
>> some kind of voting has taken place.
>
> I'm still open to such an idea of a vote, but unsure how to implement
> it. The info you kindly provided previously on the topic seems pretty
> focused on newsgroup creation; it doesn't seem that it is designed to
> be used (or has ever been used) for in-forum voting. How did CLPMisc
> ever ratify the posting guidelines? I wasn't around back then...
No idea :-) You might contact the vote collectors (VVU?). They might be
able to provide an answer and help you with the vote collection if
needed.
--
John Bokma Freelance software developer
&
Experienced Perl programmer: http://castleamber.com/
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Date: 16 Aug 2006 20:42:14 GMT
From: John Bokma <john@castleamber.com>
Subject: Re: My multipost-detecting usenet bot (David Filmer)
Message-Id: <Xns98219FBCCD709castleamber@130.133.1.4>
usenet@DavidFilmer.com wrote:
> Sherm Pendley wrote:
>> usenet@DavidFilmer.com writes:
>
>> It could monitor a few other groups that have nothing whatsoever to
>> do with Perl, CGI, or even programming - rec.food.cooking, for
>> example. A message that appears in a variety of unrelated groups is
>> likely to be spam.
>
> That was also suggested previously... Lemme give that some thought.
>
> To effectively cross-reference even a very small percentage of usenet,
> I think I would need to look at several hundred groups.
>
> My main concern is that I don't want to go astray of my usenet
> provider's ToS, and hitting several hundred groups repeatedly could
> possibly be interpreted as abusive (I'm not sure, since GigaNews
> doesn't specify a specific abuse threshold. They don't prohibit bots,
> as some providers do, but a bot that did something like that might
> constitute abuse in their opinion).
How about checking for
/perl/i
/cgi/i
and monitor some multi posts for more words? Can't be that many :-)
--
John Bokma Freelance software developer
&
Experienced Perl programmer: http://castleamber.com/
------------------------------
Date: 16 Aug 2006 12:52:47 -0700
From: minorpre57@alumnidirector.com
Subject: Re: Please participate in a non-profit academic research
Message-Id: <1155757967.273614.262380@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com>
Randal L. Schwartz wrote:
> You can't post to a group "simply because it's there". Well, not and
> have a conscience, or be highly uneducated. I hope I've educated you.
Randal L. Schwartz is a *CONVICTED FELON* and he's lecturing other
people about having a conscience? Boy, what a hypocrite!
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Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2006 21:16:05 GMT
From: axel@white-eagle.invalid.uk
Subject: Re: Please participate in a non-profit academic research
Message-Id: <pWLEg.13974$lv.10619@fed1read12>
minorpre57@alumnidirector.com wrote:
> Randal L. Schwartz wrote:
>> You can't post to a group "simply because it's there". Well, not and
>> have a conscience, or be highly uneducated. I hope I've educated you.
> Randal L. Schwartz is a *CONVICTED FELON* and he's lecturing other
> people about having a conscience? Boy, what a hypocrite!
It doesn't make him a bad person and I have a hell of a lot more respect
for him than I do for you - put it this way, I'd quite happily let him
stay in my house and give him the freedom of the beer and vodka
holders... opps, I meant 'frige and freezer... I wouldn't even bother
answering the door to pathetic sneaks like you.
Axel
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Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2006 17:38:29 -0400
From: Sherm Pendley <sherm@Sherm-Pendleys-Computer.local>
Subject: Re: Please participate in a non-profit academic research
Message-Id: <m2fyfw1huy.fsf@Sherm-Pendleys-Computer.local>
minorpre57@alumnidirector.com writes:
> Randal L. Schwartz wrote:
>> You can't post to a group "simply because it's there". Well, not and
>> have a conscience, or be highly uneducated. I hope I've educated you.
>
> Randal L. Schwartz is a *CONVICTED FELON* and he's lecturing other
> people about having a conscience? Boy, what a hypocrite!
Randal was convicted because he reported a security hole he found in a former
employer's network. The admin, rather than admitting he'd screwed up, instead
accused Randal of "hacking" the system, and convinced the company to press
charges.
Randal has nothing to be ashamed of. Because he *does* have a conscience,
he did the right thing, and because some others were not as honest, he was
punished for doing it.
You, on the other hand, *should* be ashamed. Your pathetic behavior towards
both Randal and John Bokma is downright disgusting.
sherm--
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Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2006 21:46:11 GMT
From: "A. Sinan Unur" <1usa@llenroc.ude.invalid>
Subject: Re: Please participate in a non-profit academic research
Message-Id: <Xns9821B4DE0F478asu1cornelledu@127.0.0.1>
merlyn@stonehenge.com (Randal L. Schwartz) wrote in
news:86irkssrmr.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com:
>>>>>> "Lillian" == Lillian <liberty336@gmail.com> writes:
>
> Lillian> Dear all:
>
> Please to not be spammink random groups.
>
> What you've done is the same as someone walking in to a movie theatre
> while the movie is on, and shouting "by the way, if any of you would
> like to take a survey, I'll be in the lobby".
>
> You can't post to a group "simply because it's there". Well, not and
> have a conscience, or be highly uneducated. I hope I've educated you.
In addition to the issue of topicality, any study which relies on
participants recruited through newsgroup spamming suffers from
uncontrollable sample selection bias, response bias, and non-response
bias all at the same time. As such, the results of this study would be
even more meaningless than a viewer poll done in such esteemed broadcast
shows such as Lou Dobbs or Bill O'Reiley :-) It will be impossible to
make any statistical inferences based on whatever data they collect.
Anyway, in addition to filing an abuse report, I will send a complaint
to each one of their sponsors. I can only hope the UN will not waste
their money on these people's research again.
Sinan
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Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2006 12:40:17 -0700
From: Jim Gibson <jgibson@mail.arc.nasa.gov>
Subject: Re: Proposal: extending perldoc -f
Message-Id: <160820061240175342%jgibson@mail.arc.nasa.gov>
In article <gbuEg.7390$Ch.5996@clgrps13>, John W. Krahn
<someone@example.com> wrote:
> Jim Gibson wrote:
> >
> > Why not dispense with the option altogether? Why shouldn't I be able to
> > type:
> >
> > perldoc grep
> > perldoc while
> > perldoc strict
> > perldoc CGI
> >
> > and get the appropriate section. Are there any duplicates between
> > keywords, built-in functions, and modules?
>
> Off the top of my head, 'if' keyword and 'if.pm' module.
A quick scan of the table of contents of the Camel book reveals the
open.pm module as well. So, only two non-unique identifiers so far.
Proposed use case:
$ perldoc open
"open" is not a unique identifier. Please specify among:
open module: perldoc -m open
open function: perldoc -f open
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Date: 16 Aug 2006 17:35:06 GMT
From: xhoster@gmail.com
Subject: Re: Pulling data based on date time returns error
Message-Id: <20060816142831.342$sd@newsreader.com>
devon_banks@comcast.net wrote:
> Data is stored in MySQL as '2006-07-14 13:44:13'
>
> Select Result from DataListing where
> InputDate = "2006-07-14 13:44:13"
> having count(*) > 1;
>
> DBD::mysql::st execute failed: You have an error in your SQL syntax;
> check the manual that corresponds to your MySQL server version for the
> right syntax to use near '"Select Result from DataListing where
> InputDate = "2006-07-14 13:' at line 1 at
> copiesinDATA.pl line 29.
It would seem that your Perl quoting and your mysql quoting are somehow
interfering with each other. As you haven't shown us any Perl, there
isn't much we can do for you.
BTW, using placeholders/bind variables often minimizes these quoting
problems.
Xho
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Date: 16 Aug 2006 13:07:45 -0700
From: devon_banks@comcast.net
Subject: Re: Pulling data based on date time returns error
Message-Id: <1155758865.014585.26450@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com>
xhoster@gmail.com wrote:
> devon_banks@comcast.net wrote:
> > Data is stored in MySQL as '2006-07-14 13:44:13'
> >
> > Select Result from DataListing where
> > InputDate = "2006-07-14 13:44:13"
> > having count(*) > 1;
> >
This should have been:
Select Result,count(*) from DataListing where
InputDate = "2006-07-14 13:44:13"
group by Result
having count(*) > 1;
I finally fixed the problem
by putting
$SQL = "Select Result,count(*) from DataListing where
InputDate = "2006-07-14 13:44:13"
group by Result
having count(*) > 1";
my $sth = $dbh->prepare(qq{$SQL});
$sth->execute ();
instead of
my $sth = $dbh->prepare(qq{"Select Result,count(*) from DataListing
where
InputDate = "2006-07-14 13:44:13"
group by Result
having count(*) > 1"});
$sth->execute ();
> > DBD::mysql::st execute failed: You have an error in your SQL syntax;
> > check the manual that corresponds to your MySQL server version for the
> > right syntax to use near '"Select Result from DataListing where
> > InputDate = "2006-07-14 13:' at line 1 at
> > copiesinDATA.pl line 29.
>
> It would seem that your Perl quoting and your mysql quoting are somehow
> interfering with each other. As you haven't shown us any Perl, there
> isn't much we can do for you.
>
> BTW, using placeholders/bind variables often minimizes these quoting
> problems.
>
> Xho
>
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Date: 16 Aug 2006 12:23:52 -0700
From: "Amaninder" <Amaninder.Saini@gmail.com>
Subject: why does the regrex do not work?
Message-Id: <1155756232.638378.311970@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>
Hi everyone
I am new to perl and i am encountering a problem with regrex.
In the following code i want to delete "3)" from $string using $a. For
some reason it is giving me an error. Could any one know how to fix it?
#!/usr/bin/perl -w
use strict;
my $a = "3)";
my $string = "3) <MEM0__I__36__antenna36> - Programmed" ;
$string =~ s/$a// ;
print $string;
Regards
Amaninder Saini :)
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Date: 16 Aug 2006 12:32:26 -0700
From: "Paul Lalli" <mritty@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: why does the regrex do not work?
Message-Id: <1155756746.808942.18140@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>
Amaninder wrote:
> Hi everyone
> I am new to perl and i am encountering a problem with regrex.
> In the following code i want to delete "3)" from $string using $a. For
> some reason it is giving me an error.
Not just "an error", but a very specific error. Did you read the
error?
Unmatched ) in regex; marked by <-- HERE in m/3) <-- HERE /
> Could any one know how to fix it?
>
> #!/usr/bin/perl -w
> use strict;
>
> my $a = "3)";
> my $string = "3) <MEM0__I__36__antenna36> - Programmed" ;
>
> $string =~ s/$a// ;
>
> print $string;
It's telling you that the ) in the regular expression is unmatched.
That is, Perl is assuming ) is a special character in your regular
expression. That is, as far as Perl is concerned, your regexp is:
$string =~ s/3)//;
Now, if you had written that, you would probably know that you need to
escape that parenthesis:
$string =~ s/3\)//;
Obviously, that's harder to do when your string is contained in a
variable. So instead, you simply use an escape sequence that says
"Escape any special character":
$string =~ s/\Q$a\E//;
\Q...\E will automatically backslash any special character that comes
between the \Q and \E, so that they match themselves, rather than
acting as RegExp meta-characters.
Hope this helps,
Paul Lalli
------------------------------
Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2006 16:33:37 -0400
From: Chris Mattern <syscjm@gwu.edu>
Subject: Re: why does the regrex do not work?
Message-Id: <12e7092edu0k507@corp.supernews.com>
Paul Lalli wrote:
> Amaninder wrote:
>
>>Hi everyone
>>I am new to perl and i am encountering a problem with regrex.
>>In the following code i want to delete "3)" from $string using $a. For
>>some reason it is giving me an error.
>
>
> Not just "an error", but a very specific error. Did you read the
> error?
>
> Unmatched ) in regex; marked by <-- HERE in m/3) <-- HERE /
>
>
>>Could any one know how to fix it?
>>
>>#!/usr/bin/perl -w
>>use strict;
>>
>>my $a = "3)";
>>my $string = "3) <MEM0__I__36__antenna36> - Programmed" ;
>>
>>$string =~ s/$a// ;
>>
>>print $string;
>
>
> It's telling you that the ) in the regular expression is unmatched.
> That is, Perl is assuming ) is a special character in your regular
> expression. That is, as far as Perl is concerned, your regexp is:
>
> $string =~ s/3)//;
>
> Now, if you had written that, you would probably know that you need to
> escape that parenthesis:
>
> $string =~ s/3\)//;
>
> Obviously, that's harder to do when your string is contained in a
> variable. So instead, you simply use an escape sequence that says
> "Escape any special character":
>
> $string =~ s/\Q$a\E//;
>
> \Q...\E will automatically backslash any special character that comes
> between the \Q and \E, so that they match themselves, rather than
> acting as RegExp meta-characters.
>
> Hope this helps,
> Paul Lalli
>
Paul has pretty much covered your problem, so I'll just add an
observed flaw in your code that isn't causing you problems
(yet). Don't use $a (or $b) as variable names; they're
used by Perl's sort functions.
Chris Mattern
------------------------------
Date: 16 Aug 2006 14:09:40 -0700
From: "Amaninder" <Amaninder.Saini@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: why does the regrex do not work?
Message-Id: <1155762580.088335.311230@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>
Chris Mattern wrote:
> Paul Lalli wrote:
> > Amaninder wrote:
> >
> >>Hi everyone
> >>I am new to perl and i am encountering a problem with regrex.
> >>In the following code i want to delete "3)" from $string using $a. For
> >>some reason it is giving me an error.
> >
> >
> > Not just "an error", but a very specific error. Did you read the
> > error?
> >
> > Unmatched ) in regex; marked by <-- HERE in m/3) <-- HERE /
> >
> >
> >>Could any one know how to fix it?
> >>
> >>#!/usr/bin/perl -w
> >>use strict;
> >>
> >>my $a = "3)";
> >>my $string = "3) <MEM0__I__36__antenna36> - Programmed" ;
> >>
> >>$string =~ s/$a// ;
> >>
> >>print $string;
> >
> >
> > It's telling you that the ) in the regular expression is unmatched.
> > That is, Perl is assuming ) is a special character in your regular
> > expression. That is, as far as Perl is concerned, your regexp is:
> >
> > $string =~ s/3)//;
> >
> > Now, if you had written that, you would probably know that you need to
> > escape that parenthesis:
> >
> > $string =~ s/3\)//;
> >
> > Obviously, that's harder to do when your string is contained in a
> > variable. So instead, you simply use an escape sequence that says
> > "Escape any special character":
> >
> > $string =~ s/\Q$a\E//;
> >
> > \Q...\E will automatically backslash any special character that comes
> > between the \Q and \E, so that they match themselves, rather than
> > acting as RegExp meta-characters.
> >
> > Hope this helps,
> > Paul Lalli
> >
>
> Paul has pretty much covered your problem, so I'll just add an
> observed flaw in your code that isn't causing you problems
> (yet). Don't use $a (or $b) as variable names; they're
> used by Perl's sort functions.
>
>
> Chris Mattern
Thanks a millions
------------------------------
Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2006 20:37:58 +0200
From: "Dr.Ruud" <rvtol+news@isolution.nl>
Subject: Re: Workflow Systems--Multiposted
Message-Id: <ebvvtm.q4.1@news.isolution.nl>
usenet@DavidFilmer.com schreef:
> Dr.Ruud:
>> This to minimize replies on spam.
>
> Hmmm. Spam almost always has a web URL in it. I don't remember ever
> seeing a newbie multipost that contained an URL. Looking for a web
> URL in the message body might be a more reliable filter to avoid
> responding to spam.
Or use both.
--
Affijn, Ruud
"Gewoon is een tijger."
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Date: 6 Apr 2001 21:33:47 GMT (Last modified)
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