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Perl-Users Digest, Issue: 8676 Volume: 10
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Thu Nov 17 00:05:26 2005
Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 21:05:05 -0800 (PST)
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Perl-Users Digest Wed, 16 Nov 2005 Volume: 10 Number: 8676
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Re: [OT] Google Groups: vote for Default quoting <8273grkci8q8kgt@jetable.net>
Re: [OT] Google Groups: vote for Default quoting <noreply@gunnar.cc>
Re: [OT] Google Groups: vote for Default quoting <noreply@gunnar.cc>
Re: [OT] Google Groups: vote for Default quoting <noreply@gunnar.cc>
Re: [OT] Google Groups: vote for Default quoting <noreply@gunnar.cc>
Re: FAQ 5.20 Why can't I just open(FH, ">file.lock")? <8273grkci8q8kgt@jetable.net>
How to use GUI <VSRawat@Invalid.none>
Re: How to use GUI <see.sig@rochester.rr.com>
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Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 20:30:14 -0600
From: Lars Kellogg-Stedman <8273grkci8q8kgt@jetable.net>
Subject: Re: [OT] Google Groups: vote for Default quoting
Message-Id: <t1132194225.p6839.r619624315.lars@jetable.net>
> But how do you find new people that are worthy?
They're the ones that burn incense and leave money at the altar when
they come to request Our sage advice.
Seriously, though -- auto-plonking people because you don't like their
newsreader doesn't seem like a good way to keep Usenet a vibrant and
thriving community. I'm glad that 15 years ago people weren't blocking
my newbie messages due to my choice of software!
-- Lars
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Lars Kellogg-Stedman <8273grkci8q8kgt@jetable.net>
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Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2005 03:56:51 +0100
From: Gunnar Hjalmarsson <noreply@gunnar.cc>
Subject: Re: [OT] Google Groups: vote for Default quoting
Message-Id: <3u29rlFv4lbvU1@individual.net>
Alan J. Flavell wrote:
> they want to present the long-standing usenet newsgroups to their
> users as if they might be Google's own proprietary discussion forums.
Very true, unfortunately.
--
Gunnar Hjalmarsson
Email: http://www.gunnar.cc/cgi-bin/contact.pl
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Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2005 03:57:06 +0100
From: Gunnar Hjalmarsson <noreply@gunnar.cc>
Subject: Re: [OT] Google Groups: vote for Default quoting
Message-Id: <3u29s3Fv4lbvU2@individual.net>
John Bokma wrote:
> "Alan J. Flavell" <flavell@ph.gla.ac.uk> wrote:
>>with the exception of a few names filtered specially, I'm filtering
>>[Google postings] below the visibility horizon of
>>my news client; therefore I no longer care that most of their users
>>haven't a clue about Usenet. The day's too short to read every
>>posting, anyway, so one has to apply *some* kind of selection, and
>>this happens to be one of mine.
>
> But how do you find new people that are worthy?
Do you also question the use of spam filters since worthy messages that
'look like' crap might be filtered out?
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Gunnar Hjalmarsson
Email: http://www.gunnar.cc/cgi-bin/contact.pl
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Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2005 04:33:30 +0100
From: Gunnar Hjalmarsson <noreply@gunnar.cc>
Subject: Re: [OT] Google Groups: vote for Default quoting
Message-Id: <3u2c0dFulrpdU1@individual.net>
John Bokma wrote:
> Gunnar Hjalmarsson <noreply@gunnar.cc> wrote:
>>Do you also question the use of spam filters since worthy messages that
>>'look like' crap might be filtered out?
>
> I certainly do question spam filters that filter on one specific item in a
> mail header, yes. Maybe that's why most spamfilters are very sophisticated
> software that use a weighted score from many rules.
If I want my (Usenet or email) messages to be read, I'd better make
_some_ own effort to make them not be mixed up with spam. It would be
unreasonable IMNSHO to demand from the recipients that they _alone_ have
the responsibility to figure out that my messages are worth reading.
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Gunnar Hjalmarsson
Email: http://www.gunnar.cc/cgi-bin/contact.pl
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Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2005 04:51:21 +0100
From: Gunnar Hjalmarsson <noreply@gunnar.cc>
Subject: Re: [OT] Google Groups: vote for Default quoting
Message-Id: <3u2d1rFveju8U1@individual.net>
Gunnar Hjalmarsson wrote:
> If I want my (Usenet or email) messages to be read, I'd better make
> _some_ own effort to make them not be mixed up with spam. It would be
> unreasonable IMNSHO to demand from the recipients that they _alone_ have
> the responsibility to figure out that my messages are worth reading.
Or more generally: You need to earn your right to be paid attention to. :)
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Gunnar Hjalmarsson
Email: http://www.gunnar.cc/cgi-bin/contact.pl
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Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 20:35:40 -0600
From: Lars Kellogg-Stedman <8273grkci8q8kgt@jetable.net>
Subject: Re: FAQ 5.20 Why can't I just open(FH, ">file.lock")?
Message-Id: <t1132194673.p6839.r1079339224.lars@jetable.net>
> Semaphore locking is a well accepted method, a highly adaptable
> method, and the only method available for some systems.
Semaphore locking is certainly useful, but there are ways of
implementing it that are less prone to race conditions (for example,
using a "flag directory" instead of a "flag file", since in many cases
directory creation is atomic -- unlike touching a file, which will
happily succeed for multiple processes).
I think the real problem with the FAQ is that while it goes on about how
this won't work in an NFS environment it doesn't actually present or
suggest a working solution.
-- Lars
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Lars Kellogg-Stedman <8273grkci8q8kgt@jetable.net>
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Date: 17 Nov 2005 04:32:55 +0100
From: "V S Rawat" <VSRawat@Invalid.none>
Subject: How to use GUI
Message-Id: <xn0e9u1r431mre000@xananews>
It is in continuation of my Hindi to Unicode font
transliteration program that is successfully working in perl.
The program runs from msdos prompt. It reads a input file and
converts the contents to give an output file in utf8 encoding.
However, now I want to do away with dos part, and want it to
work under winxpsp2.
I want it to have a input text box in which I would paste the
contents from clipboard (text copied to clipboard from some
other software).
I will press a key to convert, and it should give me the
converted rtf8/unicode text in another text box which I should
be able to copy to clipboard to take to another software and
paste there.
I am totally nil in perl's GUI. I have used GUI in Java so I
guess I know some concepts.
Could someone guide me step by step as to which part of perldoc
to read, which sites to visit for samples/ source codes/
tutorials on GUI, etc?
Have activeperl 5.8.
--
Rawat
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Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2005 04:15:11 GMT
From: Bob Walton <see.sig@rochester.rr.com>
Subject: Re: How to use GUI
Message-Id: <jtTef.3842$JQ.1998@twister.nyroc.rr.com>
V S Rawat wrote:
> It is in continuation of my Hindi to Unicode font
> transliteration program that is successfully working in perl.
>
> The program runs from msdos prompt. It reads a input file and
> converts the contents to give an output file in utf8 encoding.
>
> However, now I want to do away with dos part, and want it to
> work under winxpsp2.
>
> I want it to have a input text box in which I would paste the
> contents from clipboard (text copied to clipboard from some
> other software).
>
> I will press a key to convert, and it should give me the
> converted rtf8/unicode text in another text box which I should
> be able to copy to clipboard to take to another software and
> paste there.
>
> I am totally nil in perl's GUI. I have used GUI in Java so I
> guess I know some concepts.
>
> Could someone guide me step by step as to which part of perldoc
> to read, which sites to visit for samples/ source codes/
> tutorials on GUI, etc?
>
> Have activeperl 5.8.
It should be pretty easy to do this in Perl/Tk. Tk is a truly
marvelous GUI package. If Perl/Tk isn't already installed on
your system (I think it comes with current ActiveState
distributions, but I'm not certain of that), use PPM to install it.
perldoc tk
Also see the book "Learning Perl/Tk" by Nancy Walsh, O'Reilly.
--
Bob Walton
Email: http://bwalton.com/cgi-bin/emailbob.pl
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