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Perl-Users Digest, Issue: 8519 Volume: 10
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Thu Oct 13 03:05:28 2005
Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2005 00:05:05 -0700 (PDT)
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Perl-Users Digest Thu, 13 Oct 2005 Volume: 10 Number: 8519
Today's topics:
Re: Jargons of Info Tech industry (Gordon Burditt)
Re: Jargons of Info Tech industry <chris2k01@hotmail.com>
Re: Jargons of Info Tech industry <my_email_is_posted_on_my_website@munged.invalid>
Re: Jargons of Info Tech industry <my_email_is_posted_on_my_website@munged.invalid>
Re: regexp with sequences of Escape, Sorry <SteffenNetz@freenet.de>
Re: why the perl docs suck <matthew.garrish@sympatico.ca>
Re: why the perl docs suck <tadmc@augustmail.com>
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Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2005 01:23:40 -0000
From: gordonb.tt59b@burditt.org (Gordon Burditt)
Subject: Re: Jargons of Info Tech industry
Message-Id: <11krdosli1jgla7@corp.supernews.com>
>> Links
>> Javascript
>> Forms
>> References to other files
>
>the only piece of that particularly dangerous is JavaScript. So long
>as you have a scheme to unmask where links are really going links are
>no more dangerous than they are in browser.
Browsers don't read unsolicited web sites. Email readers do, however,
read unsolicited email, and email from downright hostile correspondents.
And I consider "web bugs" and similar tracking methods to be a danger
for something that's supposed to be ONLY "formatted text".
>Even a form is not dangerous. You have to fill it in and hit submit.
So where does the submitted data GO? And there's all kind of information
in there about what software I'm running.
Gordon L. Burditt
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Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2005 05:56:07 GMT
From: Chris Head <chris2k01@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Jargons of Info Tech industry
Message-Id: <XFm3f.10321$y_1.7586@edtnps89>
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Hello? I don't think that should make any difference. I should be able
to visit absolutely any website on the Internet without any danger to my
computer or the data stored on it. Any browser which allows otherwise
has a bug. Javascript is not inherently a virus vector. Flawed
implementations might be; the language itself is not. Similarly for
anything else. In reality, with a properly-configured, good quality
operating system (probably a UNIX-type system), one ought to be able to
run full native code without any danger to one's computer or data
(think: under the NOBODY account on Linux).
Just my 1/50th of a dollar.
Chris
Gordon Burditt wrote:
[snip]
> Browsers don't read unsolicited web sites. Email readers do, however,
> read unsolicited email, and email from downright hostile correspondents.
> And I consider "web bugs" and similar tracking methods to be a danger
> for something that's supposed to be ONLY "formatted text".
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Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2005 05:59:46 GMT
From: Roedy Green <my_email_is_posted_on_my_website@munged.invalid>
Subject: Re: Jargons of Info Tech industry
Message-Id: <iitrk1dmcr1eoiei7tuqrels1c86du7dn5@4ax.com>
On Thu, 13 Oct 2005 01:32:03 -0400, Mike Meyer <mwm@mired.org> wrote
or quoted :
>That won't prevent phishing, that will just raise the threshhold a
>little. The first hurdle you have to get past is that most mail agents
>want to show a human name, not some random collection of symbols that
>map to a unique address. Even if you do that, most readers aren't
>going to pay attention to said random collection of symbols. Given
>that, there are *lots* of tricks that can be used to disguise the
>signed name, most of which phishers are already using. How many people
>do you think will really notice that mail from "John Bath, PayPal
>Customer Service Representative" (john.barth@paypa1.com) isn't really
>from paypal?
I think it better than you imagine.
First of all Mr. Phish will come in as a new communicant begging an
audience. That is your first big clue. PayPal is already allowed in.
Next if Thawte issues certs, they won't allow Phish names such as
Paypol.com just as now for other certs.
Mr. Phish is coming in on a different account.
Next Mr. Phish had to present his passport etc when he got his Thawte
ID. Now Interpol has a much better handle on putting him in jail.
He can't repudiate his phishing attempt.
--
Canadian Mind Products, Roedy Green.
http://mindprod.com Again taking new Java programming contracts.
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Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2005 06:02:11 GMT
From: Roedy Green <my_email_is_posted_on_my_website@munged.invalid>
Subject: Re: Jargons of Info Tech industry
Message-Id: <kvtrk1h7kjdjrqh25uli6dqe38g1o850v6@4ax.com>
On Thu, 13 Oct 2005 01:13:28 GMT, Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> wrote
or quoted :
>A partial solution to spam, or at least to pollution of Usenet
>newsgroups, would be to STOP POSTING THIS STUFF TO NEWSGROUPS WHERE
>IT'S NOT RELEVANT.
Technically yes. But those folk in the appropriate newsgroups have had
years to solve this and all we hear is despair. They are too concerned
with the day to day alligator swamp draining to think about the big
picture.. Perhaps it is time to toss the problem in front of a less
beaten down group of potential problem solvers.
--
Canadian Mind Products, Roedy Green.
http://mindprod.com Again taking new Java programming contracts.
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Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2005 08:28:05 +0200
From: Steffen Netz <SteffenNetz@freenet.de>
Subject: Re: regexp with sequences of Escape, Sorry
Message-Id: <20051013082805.00001c16@sund35>
Ups,
this was the wrong Address.
I solved the problem particulary, but I would'nt send the
attachements.
Steffen
Steffen Netz wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I'm searching for a solution for the following problem:
>
> I have a string:
> $s= "bla \foo\\foo1\\foo2\\\ bla2";
> I want to get the replacement:
> $r= "bla foo_foo1_foo2 bla2";
>
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Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2005 22:16:50 -0400
From: "Matt Garrish" <matthew.garrish@sympatico.ca>
Subject: Re: why the perl docs suck
Message-Id: <gsj3f.4903$vD4.343096@news20.bellglobal.com>
<Fred@fred.net> wrote in message
news:i2brk1hnn70oqknio8ids05519usd731r1@4ax.com...
>
> I was never welcome. There is a pathetic implication that "I'll be
> sorry one day." -- hint my name isn't Fred. Although 'Fred' itself is
> a fine name, notwithstanding the notion it must legitimized by the
> proper from "Frederick".
And here I thought I was talking to the real Fred@fred.net. If you bother to
notice, the people with nothing to hide use their real names.
You're welcome to carry this on as long as it keeps getting you off, but I'm
going to say goodbye to you and this thread now...
Matt
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Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2005 21:19:44 -0500
From: Tad McClellan <tadmc@augustmail.com>
Subject: Re: why the perl docs suck
Message-Id: <slrndkrh20.77u.tadmc@magna.augustmail.com>
Fred@fred.net <Fred@fred.net> wrote:
> I was never welcome.
Yes you were.
Everybody is welcome here (until they do something socially unacceptable).
So, what was it that you did that got people mad that first time?
--
Tad McClellan SGML consulting
tadmc@augustmail.com Perl programming
Fort Worth, Texas
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