[24736] in Perl-Users-Digest
Perl-Users Digest, Issue: 6891 Volume: 10
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Perl-Users Digest)
Fri Aug 20 09:05:53 2004
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2004 06:05:09 -0700 (PDT)
From: Perl-Users Digest <Perl-Users-Request@ruby.OCE.ORST.EDU>
To: Perl-Users@ruby.OCE.ORST.EDU (Perl-Users Digest)
Perl-Users Digest Fri, 20 Aug 2004 Volume: 10 Number: 6891
Today's topics:
Re: Can I modify scalars contained in the array ref ret (Aaron Anodide)
Re: Can I modify scalars contained in the array ref ret (Aaron Anodide)
Re: Can I modify scalars contained in the array ref ret (Aaron Anodide)
Re: Earthquake forecasting program Aug. 16, 2004 <edgrsprj@ix.netcom.com>
Re: Earthquake forecasting program Aug. 16, 2004 <edgrsprj@ix.netcom.com>
Re: Earthquake forecasting program Aug. 16, 2004 <jurgenex@hotmail.com>
Re: How to upload a file from a local pc to a web serv <mritty@gmail.com>
Re: perl interpreter automatically exit windows so how <end@dream.life>
Processing Qmail Smtp Session Log (BadApple)
Re: trim code for mimic ls -tr <ebohlman@omsdev.com>
Re: what's the best environment to exercise Perl? <vek@station02.ohout.pharmapartners.nl>
Re: what's the best environment to exercise Perl? <end@dream.life>
Re: what's the best environment to exercise Perl? <zebee@zip.com.au>
Re: what's the best environment to exercise Perl? <matrix_calling@yahoo.dot.com>
Re: what's the best environment to exercise Perl? <peter@semantico.com>
Re: what's the best environment to exercise Perl? <matrix_calling@yahoo.dot.com>
Re: what's the best environment to exercise Perl? <end@dream.life>
Re: what's the best environment to exercise Perl? <end@dream.life>
Re: what's the best environment to exercise Perl? <end@dream.life>
Re: what's the best environment to exercise Perl? <matrix_calling@yahoo.dot.com>
Re: what's the best environment to exercise Perl? <end@dream.life>
Re: what's the best environment to exercise Perl? <end@dream.life>
Digest Administrivia (Last modified: 6 Apr 01) (Perl-Users-Digest Admin)
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Date: 20 Aug 2004 05:39:49 -0700
From: anodide@hotmail.com (Aaron Anodide)
Subject: Re: Can I modify scalars contained in the array ref returned by DBI
Message-Id: <2db1147f.0408200439.5e1acb0e@posting.google.com>
"gnari" <gnari@simnet.is> wrote in message news:<cg3560$luq$1@news.simnet.is>...
> "Aaron Anodide" <anodide@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:2db1147f.0408191242.2867b75@posting.google.com...
> > Hi,
> >
> > I'm fairly new to PERL. The following code fetches a row from DBI as
> > an array ref. It then sends a reference to an element of that array
> > to a sub which modifies it in place. This effectively (i think)
> > modifies the original string which was returned by DBI.
> >
> > My question is: Is this OK? Are the scalars in the array returned
> > from DBI special in any way, such that I might corrupt memory by doing
> > this?
>
> yes, in the case of DBI, it is OK.
Thank you for your response.
Regards,
Aaron
>
> gnari
------------------------------
Date: 20 Aug 2004 05:41:14 -0700
From: anodide@hotmail.com (Aaron Anodide)
Subject: Re: Can I modify scalars contained in the array ref returned by DBI
Message-Id: <2db1147f.0408200441.25273eba@posting.google.com>
Eric Amick <eric-amick@comcast.net> wrote in message news:<ofvai09oeoohog2768ftcqjuqnsp3i47r4@4ax.com>...
> On 19 Aug 2004 13:42:27 -0700, anodide@hotmail.com (Aaron Anodide)
> wrote:
>
> >sub CleanXMLString
> >{
> > my $s_ref = shift;
> > $$s_ref =~ s/\&/\&\;/g;
> > $$s_ref =~ s/\</\<\;/g;
> > $$s_ref =~ s/\>/\>\;/g;
> >}
>
> The backslashes really aren't necessary.
Thanks for that. It made my code cleaner.
Regards,
Aaron
------------------------------
Date: 20 Aug 2004 05:53:40 -0700
From: anodide@hotmail.com (Aaron Anodide)
Subject: Re: Can I modify scalars contained in the array ref returned by DBI
Message-Id: <2db1147f.0408200453.a65a562@posting.google.com>
John Bokma <postmaster@castleamber.com> wrote in message news:<Xns954AEF91080A8castleamber@130.133.1.4>...
> Eric Amick <eric-amick@comcast.net> wrote in
> news:ofvai09oeoohog2768ftcqjuqnsp3i47r4@4ax.com:
>
> > On 19 Aug 2004 13:42:27 -0700, anodide@hotmail.com (Aaron Anodide)
> > wrote:
> >
> >>sub CleanXMLString
> >>{
> >> my $s_ref = shift;
> >> $$s_ref =~ s/\&/\&\;/g;
> >> $$s_ref =~ s/\</\<\;/g;
> >> $$s_ref =~ s/\>/\>\;/g;
> >>}
> >
> > The backslashes really aren't necessary.
>
> Also the > doesn't need to be escaped in many cases.
> <something> a > b </something> is valid.
That's interesting, I didn't know it. I wonder if it's worth the
effort to analyze the context of the >'s though...
Regards,
Aaron
------------------------------
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2004 11:58:33 GMT
From: "edgrsprj" <edgrsprj@ix.netcom.com>
Subject: Re: Earthquake forecasting program Aug. 16, 2004
Message-Id: <JHlVc.29573$nx2.10297@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net>
"Bob Officer" <bobofficers@invalid.net> wrote in message
news:mrv9i0tot6cd6pejhbldalmd4sd559ebvv@4ax.com...
> On Thu, 19 Aug 2004 12:56:29 GMT, in sci.geo.earthquakes, "edgrsprj"
> <edgrsprj@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>
> >"Bob Officer" <bobofficers@invalid.net> wrote in message
> >news:da18i05ioseql894qc8s6v71eri46bqqpo@4ax.com...
> >> On Wed, 18 Aug 2004 06:24:39 GMT, in sci.geo.earthquakes, "edgrsprj"
> >> <edgrsprj@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> >>
>
> Odd I have other usenet messages where you stated it was written by
another
> person, and other message I have seen which state you have no programming
> experience.
>
August 20, 2004
The program you are probably referring to is the following True Basic
computer language program largely written by a retired professional computer
programmer.
http://www.earthwaves.org/roger/prob_setup.exe
I believe that it generates information regarding the probability that an
earthquake could occur within a given latitude and longitude rectangle
during a time window of whatever time length is specified. It generates
results based solely on the history of past earthquakes in that area. I
assisted with program design and formatting but did not write it.
My Perl earthquake forecasting program is completely different. Technically
speaking it is actually a "synthetic triangulation" program rather than a
true earthquake prediction program. It attempts to identify fault zones
which are responsible for certain types of electromagnetic energy field
fluctuations. The assumption is that earthquakes might then eventually
occur near one or more of those locations.
------------------------------
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2004 12:15:13 GMT
From: "edgrsprj" <edgrsprj@ix.netcom.com>
Subject: Re: Earthquake forecasting program Aug. 16, 2004
Message-Id: <lXlVc.29585$nx2.4309@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net>
"Jürgen Exner" <jurgenex@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:mk2Vc.22945$Kf4.17059@nwrddc02.gnilink.net...
> edgrsprj wrote:
> > August 19, 2004
>
> Is there a specific reason why you distrust your news reader to generate
the
> correct "Date" header?
> You may not believe it but it but that header even includes the time!
>
August 20, 2004
For one reason, at times these notices get copied to bulletin boards and
circulated by e-mail. And the heading information you are referring to can
get removed in the copy process. Adding a date like that helps avoid later
confusion.
Open Newsgroups such as this one are I believe intended for public use. If
you do not like that arrangement then I recommend that you could either
start a moderated one where you can decide who gets to post and who does
not. Or you could create and host a bulletin board which is probably even
more restricted. Why argue over public resources when there are other
options available?
------------------------------
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2004 12:28:07 GMT
From: "Jürgen Exner" <jurgenex@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Earthquake forecasting program Aug. 16, 2004
Message-Id: <r7mVc.43926$SC1.31295@nwrddc03.gnilink.net>
edgrsprj wrote:
> "Jürgen Exner" <jurgenex@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:mk2Vc.22945$Kf4.17059@nwrddc02.gnilink.net...
>> edgrsprj wrote:
>>> August 19, 2004
>>
>> Is there a specific reason why you distrust your news reader to
>> generate the correct "Date" header?
>> You may not believe it but it but that header even includes the time!
>>
>
> August 20, 2004
>
> For one reason, at times these notices get copied to bulletin boards
> and circulated by e-mail. And the heading information you are
> referring to can get removed in the copy process. Adding a date like
> that helps avoid later confusion.
Did it occur to you that you are the only one having those concerns?
Oh, stupid me, I forgot that you are smarter than anyone else....
> Open Newsgroups such as this one are I believe intended for public
> use. If you do not like that arrangement then I recommend that you
> could either start a moderated one where you can decide who gets to
> post and who does not. Or you could create and host a bulletin board
> which is probably even more restricted. Why argue over public
> resources when there are other options available?
True, good idea, there is indeed no reason to read you: PLONK
jue
------------------------------
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2004 07:07:20 -0400
From: Paul Lalli <mritty@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: How to upload a file from a local pc to a web server from a html page????
Message-Id: <20040820070257.H2996@barbara.cs.rpi.edu>
On Fri, 20 Aug 2004, Joe Smith wrote:
> srini wrote:
>
> > open UPLOADFILE, ">$temp";
> > while (<$upload_filehandle>)
> > {
> > print UPLOADFILE;
> > }
> > close UPLOADFILE;
>
> 1) You should *always* check the results of an open() call.
> 2) Magic with $_ happens for <>, not for any other read operation,
> which means that you have to explictly set $_.
Who on earth told you that? The auto assigning of $_ to the results of <>
happens regardless of whether or not a filehandle is given to <>.
open my $file, 'file.txt' or die "Cannot open file: $!";
while (<$file>){
print;
}
__END__
Try it yourself. Run the above code. The 'magic' you refer to only fails
to occur if there is anything in the while conditional other than the <>
operator. This does not include reading from a given filehandle instead
of implicitly from $ARGV.
while (<>) { ... } #works
while (<STDIN>) { ... } #works
while (<FILE>) { ... } #works
while (<> and $debug) { ... } #does not work
If your mistaken belief came from some site or book, please let us know
what it is so we know to avoid it.
Paul Lalli
------------------------------
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2004 20:25:11 +0800
From: Alont <end@dream.life>
Subject: Re: perl interpreter automatically exit windows so how I can saw the result of script?
Message-Id: <4139ed11.197787125@130.133.1.4>
Abhinav <matrix_calling@yahoo.dot.com>Wrote at Fri, 20 Aug 2004
14:25:34 +0530:
>Alont wrote:
>
>> how to set Forte Agent automatically move cursor to the bottom?
>>
>
>1. Check out the FAQs for Forte
there's impossible to solve this problem or I change My client
program. maybe Forte Agent isn't the best reader, I'll try other one
>2. Before you ask where they will be, google for them. In the highly
>unlikely scenario that you cannot find them , google the group
>news.software.readers.
>
>3. If you still cannot find it (and even if you can) please hold down the
>Control Key and press (and release) the "End" Key to go the the bottom of
>the post.
>
>4. Please see the sig (courtesy CBFalconer) for more details as to why I am
>suggesting the above. :)
>
>HTH
>
>Abhinav
--
Your fault as a Government is My failure as a citizen
------------------------------
Date: 20 Aug 2004 05:53:30 -0700
From: badapple_deltree@yahoo.co.in (BadApple)
Subject: Processing Qmail Smtp Session Log
Message-Id: <dda5aa58.0408200453.46412838@posting.google.com>
Hi Group ,
I am trying to process a Qmail Smtp session Log file ( multilog ).
The section of the Log file is give below :
@400000004123d44320c51f3c tcpserver: ok 9198
mailgateway.foo.com:10.10.0.1:25 :20.132.29.1::60433
@400000004123d44320c52edc qmail-smtpd 9198: connection from
200.12.239.1 (unknown) to mailgateway.foo.com
@400000004123d4451529c72c qmail-smtpd 9198: authentication success,
user Authenticated user:edd@zgy.ffg.com
@400000004123d4452fcdffbc qmail-smtpd 9198: mail from:
marielos@zgy.ffg.com
@400000004123d4460f3cbbe4 qmail-smtpd 9198: rcpt to: edy@zgy.ffg.com
@400000004123d452240346c4 tcpserver: status: 4/150
@400000004123d455142c5844 qmail-smtpd 9198: message queued: 1092867147
qp 9200 size 84902 bytes
@400000004123d455341b60dc tcpserver: end 9198 status 0
For every user that authenticates a "Authenticated user:" line is
generated also a "pid" is assigned to this session .The pid is the
number visible after the "qmail-smtpd" field in this case it's
"9198".After the message is transferred the line " message queued " is
generated and the no of bytes transferred is printed just before the
"bytes" field .
The pid assigned is constant till the smtp session is live . The start
of any smtp session is the line "tcpserver: ok <pid no>
<hostname>...ipaddress ..."
The end of the smtp session is marked by the line ."tcpserver: end
<pid> status 0".
I am trying to match this pid for the "Authenticated user:" to the
bytes transferred.
I have written following code ,which works a bit ,but it fails if
another smtp session start before the end of the smtp session which I
am processing .
My Code .
-------------------
#!/usr/bin/perl -w
# The Log File
$logfile = shift || die "Usage:$0 <logfile>";
open FLE, "< $logfile" if defined ($logfile);
# While Start
while (<FLE>) {
chomp;
# We get the Authenticated Line
if (/\s(\d{1,}): authentication success, user Authenticated
user:(.{1,})$/){ # Start IF AUTHENTICATED
# We assign the Pid and Auth User
$authpid = $1; # Auth pid
$authuser = $2; # Auth User
$HoH{$authpid}{user} = $authuser; # Just create a Hash
for each Pid
print "Pid: $authpid User: $authuser \n";
} # END IF AUTHENTICATED
# We search the bytes transferred line
if (/qmail-smtpd\s(\d{1,}):\smessage
queued:\s\d{1,}\sqp\s\d{1,}\ssize\s(\d{1,})\sbytes.*$/){ # IF MESSAGE
QUEUED
# We define Pid and Bytes
$pid = $1;
$bytes = $2;
#$HoH{$pid}{Bytes} = $bytes if defined ( $HoH{$pid} );
if (defined ( $HoH{$pid})) { # Check if it's pid
of an authenticated smtp session ,if not it's mostly a non
authenticated session
print "Pid :$pid Bytes :$bytes\n";
}
} # END IF QUEUED
}
-------------------
And the output is :
-----------------
Pid: 10554 User: sksk@junke.net
Pid :10554 Bytes :6385
Pid: 11315 User: sksk@junke.net
Pid :11315 Bytes :1605
Pid: 11547 User: joe@job.com
Pid: 11842 User: sksk@junke.net
Pid: 11844 User: joe@job.com
Pid :11844 Bytes :1112
------------------
As you can see till sksk@junke.net I am getting the Username & bytes
properly but later after joe@job.com the bytes are lost .
My questions are :
1. When I get a pid of Authenticated User how do I store it till the
bytes are found.
2. When I get the bytes how do I destroy the Hash so that the bytes
won't get overwritten
3. When handling more than one "Authenticated user:" pids how to
store them (pids) till the corresponding "bytes" line is not received
.
Thanx in advance for any help
BadApple
------------------------------
Date: 20 Aug 2004 11:36:48 GMT
From: Eric Bohlman <ebohlman@omsdev.com>
Subject: Re: trim code for mimic ls -tr
Message-Id: <Xns954B441B29570ebohlmanomsdevcom@130.133.1.4>
Fred <noemail@#$&&!.net> wrote in
news:pan.2004.08.19.22.56.55.780328@#$&&!.net:
> I *wish* windows had a set of command tools like UNIX. I'm stuck with
> windows. I'm not one of those "Windows Sucks!" kind of people, but
> after 6 years with the Bourne shell on Unix , using windows 2003
> server is rather trying. perl, however, has made it much nicer. Don't
> know why I never learned it before. Very very nice.
<http://unxutils.sourceforge.net/> has native Win32 ports of many of 'em.
------------------------------
Date: 20 Aug 2004 10:12:42 GMT
From: Villy Kruse <vek@station02.ohout.pharmapartners.nl>
Subject: Re: what's the best environment to exercise Perl?
Message-Id: <slrncibjkq.q2.vek@station02.ohout.pharmapartners.nl>
On Fri, 20 Aug 2004 14:31:29 +0530,
Abhinav <matrix_calling@yahoo.dot.com> wrote:
>
> In addition (ad I have mentioned elsethread) Cntrl-End dose it irrespective
> of the length of the post.
>
Which might result in a full quote, which isn't always appropriate either.
The old rule was: at most half of the total post may be quoted material,
and some news program did enforce that. If the full quote is only
half a page that wouldn't be a problem; several pages of quote before
a few line of new contribution isn't friendly to the reader.
Villy
------------------------------
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2004 18:31:14 +0800
From: Alont <end@dream.life>
Subject: Re: what's the best environment to exercise Perl?
Message-Id: <4144d1f6.190848906@130.133.1.4>
what's OP? I though CIS Server come here
at Fri, 20 Aug 2004 09:34:15 +0200
"Tassilo v. Parseval"
<tassilo.von.parseval@rwth-aachen.de>×íõ¸õ¸µÄÄØ૵À:--
>Hmmh, the OP is in China so maybe this host is blocked altogether (for
>reasons that are simply beyond me).
--
Your fault as a Government is My failure as a citizen
------------------------------
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2004 10:35:51 GMT
From: Zebee Johnstone <zebee@zip.com.au>
Subject: Re: what's the best environment to exercise Perl?
Message-Id: <slrncibkm2.dgb.zebee@zeus.zipworld.com.au>
In comp.lang.perl.misc on Fri, 20 Aug 2004 16:08:26 +0800
Alont <end@dream.life> wrote:
> the reason that I reply on top is that My client is Forte Agent1.8, it
> automatically stay cursor on the top, if I change the cursor every
> post, I'll be crazy! and Agent haven't a way to set cursor
Your choice - a bit of work on your part and people help you, or no work
on your part and people don't help you.
No one owes you help. You are hoping people will give you their time
and effort, without reward.
If you are lazy, then you will make them think "This person is not worth
helping".
Zebee
------------------------------
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2004 16:10:08 +0530
From: Abhinav <matrix_calling@yahoo.dot.com>
Subject: Re: what's the best environment to exercise Perl?
Message-Id: <0FkVc.30$CL3.97@news.oracle.com>
Villy Kruse wrote:
>
>>In addition (ad I have mentioned elsethread) Cntrl-End dose it irrespective
>>of the length of the post.
>>
>
>
>
> Which might result in a full quote, which isn't always appropriate either.
> The old rule was: at most half of the total post may be quoted material,
> and some news program did enforce that. If the full quote is only
> half a page that wouldn't be a problem; several pages of quote before
> a few line of new contribution isn't friendly to the reader.
>
You have snipped almost *all* of my post above (not that I am complaining
:) ) . The OP needs to realize that the navigation keys *are* required for
proper posting. There is no news program (yet) which would take you to the
place where you *want* to start replying, keeping only the required portion
of the post in context and snipping the rest of it :)
--
Abhinav
------------------------------
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2004 11:37:55 +0100
From: Peter Hickman <peter@semantico.com>
Subject: Re: what's the best environment to exercise Perl?
Message-Id: <4125d484$0$27875$afc38c87@news.easynet.co.uk>
Alont wrote:
> what's OP? I though CIS Server come here
>
> at Fri, 20 Aug 2004 09:34:15 +0200
> "Tassilo v. Parseval"
> <tassilo.von.parseval@rwth-aachen.de>×íõ¸õ¸µÄÄØ૵À:--
>
>>Hmmh, the OP is in China so maybe this host is blocked altogether (for
>>reasons that are simply beyond me).
>
>
OP is newsgroup talk for 'original poster' of this message thread, in this case you.
------------------------------
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2004 16:12:04 +0530
From: Abhinav <matrix_calling@yahoo.dot.com>
Subject: Re: what's the best environment to exercise Perl?
Message-Id: <QGkVc.31$CL3.63@news.oracle.com>
Alont wrote:
> what's OP? I though CIS Server come here
>
OP = Original Poster (You in this case).
Please *do* consider using the arrow keys until such time as you are able
to configure your news reader.
[SNIP]
--
Abhinav
------------------------------
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2004 19:58:27 +0800
From: Alont <end@dream.life>
Subject: Re: what's the best environment to exercise Perl?
Message-Id: <4135e752.196316328@130.133.1.4>
Peter Hickman <peter@semantico.com>Wrote at Fri, 20 Aug 2004 11:37:55
+0100:
>OP is newsgroup talk for 'original poster' of this message thread, in this case you.
Oh, thank you.
--
Your fault as a Government is My failure as a citizen
------------------------------
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2004 20:03:03 +0800
From: Alont <end@dream.life>
Subject: Re: what's the best environment to exercise Perl?
Message-Id: <4136e78f.196377593@130.133.1.4>
Abhinav <matrix_calling@yahoo.dot.com>Wrote at Fri, 20 Aug 2004
16:12:04 +0530:
>Alont wrote:
>
>> what's OP? I though CIS Server come here
>>
>
>OP = Original Poster (You in this case).
>
>Please *do* consider using the arrow keys until such time as you are able
>to configure your news reader.
>
>[SNIP]
Forte Agent is impossible to "configure", I asked Forte, but I don't
like Mozilla, that's a stupid client(just I think), I must change My
favorite tool? Oh, only "comp.lang.perl.misc" let me do this...
--
Your fault as a Government is My failure as a citizen
------------------------------
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2004 20:10:27 +0800
From: Alont <end@dream.life>
Subject: Re: what's the best environment to exercise Perl?
Message-Id: <4137e8dd.196711343@130.133.1.4>
Abhinav <matrix_calling@yahoo.dot.com>Wrote at Fri, 20 Aug 2004
16:10:08 +0530:
>You have snipped almost *all* of my post above (not that I am complaining
>:) ) . The OP needs to realize that the navigation keys *are* required for
>proper posting. There is no news program (yet) which would take you to the
>place where you *want* to start replying, keeping only the required portion
>of the post in context and snipping the rest of it :)
you know, I have to change the cursor every post....what a hard work
:-)
I'm finding a client who could parse original post----automatically
kill the line what started as ">" and automatically add two "enter"
between two paragraph, and automatically move cursor to where I want
stroke word.....
Emacs does? I'll try it...
--
Your fault as a Government is My failure as a citizen
------------------------------
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2004 17:50:04 +0530
From: Abhinav <matrix_calling@yahoo.dot.com>
Subject: Re: what's the best environment to exercise Perl?
Message-Id: <I6mVc.43$CL3.80@news.oracle.com>
Alont wrote:
[SNIP]
>>
>>Please *do* consider using the arrow keys until such time as you are able
>>to configure your news reader.
>>
>>[SNIP]
>
> Forte Agent is impossible to "configure", I asked Forte, but I don't
> like Mozilla, that's a stupid client(just I think), I must change My
> favorite tool?
No need to change your favourite tool. Even if if does not allow you to go
to the end of the post, it will not matter much. This is because you will
anyway have to navigate through the post, snipping pieces and replying to
specific parts. Whether you do it from the bottom to up, or top to bottom,
doesn't matter much.
In fact, think of it this way: You will anyway read the message from TOP to
BOTTOM. If your cursor is at the TOP, it will be easier to read through it.
If it is at the Bottom, you will need to go to the TOP, and then read
through it :) .
Nice to see a well formed post with snipped info and signature in place. :)
Regards
--
Abhinav
------------------------------
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2004 20:20:16 +0800
From: Alont <end@dream.life>
Subject: Re: what's the best environment to exercise Perl?
Message-Id: <4138eb2e.197304093@130.133.1.4>
Zebee Johnstone <zebee@zip.com.au>Wrote at Fri, 20 Aug 2004 10:35:51
GMT:
>Your choice - a bit of work on your part and people help you, or no work
>on your part and people don't help you.
>
>No one owes you help. You are hoping people will give you their time
>and effort, without reward.
My heart isn't so ugly, I think this problem not only happend on me,
but many people, and I want find a better solution...
>
>If you are lazy, then you will make them think "This person is not worth
>helping".
>
>Zebee
Well, sometimes I do what I have to,
other times I do what I want do.
and now I do "I have to"..
--
Your fault as a Government is My failure as a citizen
------------------------------
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2004 20:38:16 +0800
From: Alont <end@dream.life>
Subject: Re: what's the best environment to exercise Perl?
Message-Id: <413cef9c.198438703@130.133.1.4>
Abhinav <matrix_calling@yahoo.dot.com>Wrote at Fri, 20 Aug 2004
17:50:04 +0530:
>No need to change your favourite tool. Even if if does not allow you to go
>to the end of the post, it will not matter much. This is because you will
>anyway have to navigate through the post, snipping pieces and replying to
>specific parts. Whether you do it from the bottom to up, or top to bottom,
>doesn't matter much.
I stroke four "enter" here, so I hope I can find a clien who can
automatically add two empty line between two paragraph.....I want the
best solution :-)
>
>In fact, think of it this way: You will anyway read the message from TOP to
>BOTTOM. If your cursor is at the TOP, it will be easier to read through it.
>If it is at the Bottom, you will need to go to the TOP, and then read
>through it :) .
>
>Nice to see a well formed post with snipped info and signature in place. :)
>
>Regards
a news reader must study to parse an original psot and quoting, I
think this isn't difficult,
--
Your fault as a Government is My failure as a citizen
------------------------------
Date: 6 Apr 2001 21:33:47 GMT (Last modified)
From: Perl-Users-Request@ruby.oce.orst.edu (Perl-Users-Digest Admin)
Subject: Digest Administrivia (Last modified: 6 Apr 01)
Message-Id: <null>
Administrivia:
#The Perl-Users Digest is a retransmission of the USENET newsgroup
#comp.lang.perl.misc. For subscription or unsubscription requests, send
#the single line:
#
# subscribe perl-users
#or:
# unsubscribe perl-users
#
#to almanac@ruby.oce.orst.edu.
NOTE: due to the current flood of worm email banging on ruby, the smtp
server on ruby has been shut off until further notice.
To submit articles to comp.lang.perl.announce, send your article to
clpa@perl.com.
#To request back copies (available for a week or so), send your request
#to almanac@ruby.oce.orst.edu with the command "send perl-users x.y",
#where x is the volume number and y is the issue number.
#For other requests pertaining to the digest, send mail to
#perl-users-request@ruby.oce.orst.edu. Do not waste your time or mine
#sending perl questions to the -request address, I don't have time to
#answer them even if I did know the answer.
------------------------------
End of Perl-Users Digest V10 Issue 6891
***************************************
