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Perl-Users Digest, Issue: 6890 Volume: 10
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Perl-Users Digest Fri, 20 Aug 2004 Volume: 10 Number: 6890
Today's topics:
Re: what's the best environment to exercise Perl? <abigail@abigail.nl>
Re: what's the best environment to exercise Perl? <abigail@abigail.nl>
Re: what's the best environment to exercise Perl? <tassilo.von.parseval@rwth-aachen.de>
Re: what's the best environment to exercise Perl? <end@dream.life>
Re: what's the best environment to exercise Perl? <end@dream.life>
Re: what's the best environment to exercise Perl? <end@dream.life>
Re: what's the best environment to exercise Perl? <end@dream.life>
Re: what's the best environment to exercise Perl? <peter@semantico.com>
Re: what's the best environment to exercise Perl? <end@dream.life>
Re: what's the best environment to exercise Perl? <tassilo.von.parseval@rwth-aachen.de>
Re: what's the best environment to exercise Perl? <end@dream.life>
Re: what's the best environment to exercise Perl? <matrix_calling@yahoo.dot.com>
Re: what's the best environment to exercise Perl? <matrix_calling@yahoo.dot.com>
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Date: 20 Aug 2004 07:22:07 GMT
From: Abigail <abigail@abigail.nl>
Subject: Re: what's the best environment to exercise Perl?
Message-Id: <slrncib9kv.q3p.abigail@alexandra.abigail.nl>
Alont (end@dream.life) wrote on MMMMVI September MCMXCIII in
<URL:news:4124c04b.120789937@130.133.1.4>:
** what's the best convenient environment to exercise Perl?
About 25 degrees, low humidity, shade and a gentle breeze.
** I'm new in perl, I'll make many syntax or other error in perl, so I
** want a good environment to write->execute...
** my platform is windows xp
I'm so sorry for you. But you don't have to.
Abigail
--
BEGIN {print "Just " }
CHECK {print "another "}
INIT {print "Perl " }
END {print "Hacker\n"}
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Date: 20 Aug 2004 07:23:14 GMT
From: Abigail <abigail@abigail.nl>
Subject: Re: what's the best environment to exercise Perl?
Message-Id: <slrncib9n2.q3p.abigail@alexandra.abigail.nl>
Alont (end@dream.life) wrote on MMMMVII September MCMXCIII in
<URL:news:412b8206.170384171@130.133.1.4>:
,, I can't log on this site, My ISP block it,
Then get a better ISP. And don't toppost.
Abigail
--
$_ = "\112\165\163\1648\141\156\157\164\150\145\1628\120\145"
. "\162\1548\110\141\143\153\145\162\0128\177" and &japh;
sub japh {print "@_" and return if pop; split /\d/ and &japh}
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Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2004 09:34:15 +0200
From: "Tassilo v. Parseval" <tassilo.von.parseval@rwth-aachen.de>
Subject: Re: what's the best environment to exercise Perl?
Message-Id: <2olnt8FccoaeU1@uni-berlin.de>
Also sprach Abigail:
> Alont (end@dream.life) wrote on MMMMVII September MCMXCIII in
><URL:news:412b8206.170384171@130.133.1.4>:
> ,, I can't log on this site, My ISP block it,
>
>
> Then get a better ISP. And don't toppost.
Hmmh, the OP is in China so maybe this host is blocked altogether (for
reasons that are simply beyond me).
Tassilo
--
$_=q#",}])!JAPH!qq(tsuJ[{@"tnirp}3..0}_$;//::niam/s~=)]3[))_$-3(rellac(=_$({
pam{rekcahbus})(rekcah{lrePbus})(lreP{rehtonabus})!JAPH!qq(rehtona{tsuJbus#;
$_=reverse,s+(?<=sub).+q#q!'"qq.\t$&."'!#+sexisexiixesixeseg;y~\n~~dddd;eval
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Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2004 15:48:43 +0800
From: Alont <end@dream.life>
Subject: Re: what's the best environment to exercise Perl?
Message-Id: <413aa807.180113656@130.133.1.4>
I'm sorry, My date and time is real.
at 20 Aug 2004 04:32:48 GMT
John Bokma <postmaster@castleamber.com>×íõ¸õ¸µÄÄØ૵À:--
>don't top post.
Your fault as a Government is My failure as a citizen
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Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2004 15:48:45 +0800
From: Alont <end@dream.life>
Subject: Re: what's the best environment to exercise Perl?
Message-Id: <413ba8d2.180316562@130.133.1.4>
not funny, just a smile, I shouldn't smile? Oh!
at 20 Aug 2004 06:52:41 GMT
"A. Sinan Unur" <1usa@llenroc.ude.invalid>×íõ¸õ¸µÄÄØ૵À:--
>What is so funny?
Your fault as a Government is My failure as a citizen
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Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2004 15:48:46 +0800
From: Alont <end@dream.life>
Subject: Re: what's the best environment to exercise Perl?
Message-Id: <413ca947.180433203@130.133.1.4>
I have tried, but faild, could you give me your setting about perl
compile in Editplus?my settings:
Menu text: Perl compiler
Command: F:\Perl\bin\Perl.exe
Argument: $(CurSel)
initial directory: F:\Perl\bin
I selected these script and then click "Perl compiler" menu:
#!/usr/bin/perl
print 54;
but the result:
---------- Perl compiler ----------
Can't open perl script "#!/usr/bin/perl
": No such file or directory
Normal Termination
Output completed (0 sec consumed).
at 20 Aug 2004 06:52:41 GMT
"A. Sinan Unur" <1usa@llenroc.ude.invalid>×íõ¸õ¸µÄÄØ૵À:--
>Why don't you learn how to use the software of your choice (BTW, did you
>pay the registration fee?) I just downloaded EditPlus out of curiosity.
>It took me 10 seconds to configure it so that I could run the current
>file using perl and capture output within the editor. No need for
>Explorer or shell windows.
>
>Why don't you learn how to use your favorite editor?
>
>Now, let's hope I can uninstall this thing...
Your fault as a Government is My failure as a citizen
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Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2004 16:04:00 +0800
From: Alont <end@dream.life>
Subject: Re: what's the best environment to exercise Perl?
Message-Id: <413eadeb.181621218@130.133.1.4>
could you help me how to set cursor automatically stay below quoting?
I use Agent, this software's default setting is that cursor
automatically stay on the top of quoting.
I asked a man who knows the history of Usenet, He said that reply in
top or bottom is not a rule people must obey, that just a custom of
NNTP client, I use Forte Agent1.8, and you use Mozilla/5.0 that's why
you reply in bottom and I wrote in top, you think this also my fault?
at Fri, 20 Aug 2004 07:04:25 GMT
Joe Smith <Joe.Smith@inwap.com>×íõ¸õ¸µÄÄØ૵À:--
>Please stop "top posting"!!
>
>That means, do not put your text above what you're quoting.
>You should do like what I have done it this reply; my new
>text is below your text, not above.
> -Joe
>
>P.S. I was going to complain about posting in HTML, but it appears
>that "Content-Type: text/plain; charset=GB2312" is causing Mozilla
>to render it in an awfully large Courier font.
Your fault as a Government is My failure as a citizen
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Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2004 09:04:08 +0100
From: Peter Hickman <peter@semantico.com>
Subject: Re: what's the best environment to exercise Perl?
Message-Id: <4125b078$0$13679$afc38c87@news.easynet.co.uk>
Alont wrote:
> thank you, but I'm working on Windows xp
>
> at 19 Aug 2004 17:16:27 +0200
> 510046470588-0001@t-online.de×íõ¸õ¸µÄÄØ૵À:--
>
>>the GNU Emacs, of course
>>
>>Klaus Schilling
emacs is available in windows XP, I am running windows XP as we speak.
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Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2004 16:08:26 +0800
From: Alont <end@dream.life>
Subject: Re: what's the best environment to exercise Perl?
Message-Id: <413fb08f.182297468@130.133.1.4>
the reason that I reply on top is that My client is Forte Agent1.8, it
automatically stay cursor on the top, if I change the cursor every
post, I'll be crazy! and Agent haven't a way to set cursor
automatically move to bottom, I find much people use Mozila here, but
I only like Forte Agent, I should change my favorite tool? Oh, don't
let me do that...
at Fri, 20 Aug 2004 01:42:09 -0400
Sherm Pendley <spamtrap@dot-app.org>×íõ¸õ¸µÄÄØ૵À:--
>No, top-posting is when you put your reply at the top of your message.
>Most people here prefer it to appear below the text you're replying to,
>like this one.
>
>sherm--
Your fault as a Government is My failure as a citizen
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Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2004 10:13:38 +0200
From: "Tassilo v. Parseval" <tassilo.von.parseval@rwth-aachen.de>
Subject: Re: what's the best environment to exercise Perl?
Message-Id: <2olq5kFbrpa0U1@uni-berlin.de>
Also sprach Alont:
> could you help me how to set cursor automatically stay below quoting?
> I use Agent, this software's default setting is that cursor
> automatically stay on the top of quoting.
How much work can it be to hit PGDN a couple of times? Also, don't ask
to be spoon-fed. The configuration of your news client is your affair
and not that of this group.
> I asked a man who knows the history of Usenet, He said that reply in
> top or bottom is not a rule people must obey, that just a custom of
> NNTP client, I use Forte Agent1.8, and you use Mozilla/5.0 that's why
> you reply in bottom and I wrote in top, you think this also my fault?
This guy is wrong (apparently he doesn't know the history of
comp.lang.perl.misc). Avoiding top-posts is a rule that you have to obey
in this group, or else people will start to ignore you after a while.
Other than that it has nothing whatsoever to do with the client you are
using. You are expected to trim down the quoted material to the stuff
you are replying to anyway. That means you start with your cursor on top
of the posting, run down the quoted material line-wise, delete lines you
are not going to comment on and otherwise insert your reply below the
lines that you keep.
Tassilo
--
$_=q#",}])!JAPH!qq(tsuJ[{@"tnirp}3..0}_$;//::niam/s~=)]3[))_$-3(rellac(=_$({
pam{rekcahbus})(rekcah{lrePbus})(lreP{rehtonabus})!JAPH!qq(rehtona{tsuJbus#;
$_=reverse,s+(?<=sub).+q#q!'"qq.\t$&."'!#+sexisexiixesixeseg;y~\n~~dddd;eval
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Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2004 16:14:12 +0800
From: Alont <end@dream.life>
Subject: Re: what's the best environment to exercise Perl?
Message-Id: <4140b26b.182773312@130.133.1.4>
this is not a problem about guidelines, this is a problem about NNTP
client, your tool User-Agent: Xnews/5.04.25, it can automatically move
cursor to the bottom, but my Forte Agent can't,
at 20 Aug 2004 06:34:11 GMT
"A. Sinan Unur" <1usa@llenroc.ude.invalid>×íõ¸õ¸µÄÄØ૵À:--
>Who said anything about GMT time? Out your replies below the content to
>which you are replying. And read the posting guidelines. Please.
--
Your fault as a Government is My failure as a citizen
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Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2004 14:31:29 +0530
From: Abhinav <matrix_calling@yahoo.dot.com>
Subject: Re: what's the best environment to exercise Perl?
Message-Id: <xcjVc.21$CL3.114@news.oracle.com>
Note: Comments here addressed to the OP :)
Tassilo v. Parseval wrote:
> Also sprach Alont:
>
>
>>could you help me how to set cursor automatically stay below quoting?
>>I use Agent, this software's default setting is that cursor
>>automatically stay on the top of quoting.
>
>
> How much work can it be to hit PGDN a couple of times? Also, don't ask
> to be spoon-fed. The configuration of your news client is your affair
> and not that of this group.
>
In addition (ad I have mentioned elsethread) Cntrl-End dose it irrespective
of the length of the post.
>
>>I asked a man who knows the history of Usenet, He said that reply in
>>top or bottom is not a rule people must obey, that just a custom of
>>NNTP client, I use Forte Agent1.8, and you use Mozilla/5.0 that's why
>>you reply in bottom and I wrote in top, you think this also my fault?
>
>
> This guy is wrong (apparently he doesn't know the history of
> comp.lang.perl.misc). Avoiding top-posts is a rule that you have to obey
> in this group, or else people will start to ignore you after a while.
>
In addition, please check the following link for more details :
http://www.4qd.org/philos/Netiquette.html#toppost
[Snip]
Abhinav
--
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Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2004 14:32:39 +0530
From: Abhinav <matrix_calling@yahoo.dot.com>
Subject: Re: what's the best environment to exercise Perl?
Message-Id: <DdjVc.22$CL3.51@news.oracle.com>
Alont wrote:
> this is not a problem about guidelines, this is a problem about NNTP
> client, your tool User-Agent: Xnews/5.04.25, it can automatically move
> cursor to the bottom, but my Forte Agent can't,
>
It *can* . I use it sometimes. (Even though I am not using it now).
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