[16162] in Perl-Users-Digest
Perl-Users Digest, Issue: 3574 Volume: 9
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Perl-Users Digest)
Mon Jul 10 17:18:16 2000
Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 14:18:04 -0700 (PDT)
From: Perl-Users Digest <Perl-Users-Request@ruby.OCE.ORST.EDU>
To: Perl-Users@ruby.OCE.ORST.EDU (Perl-Users Digest)
Message-Id: <963263884-v9-i3574@ruby.oce.orst.edu>
Content-Type: text
Perl-Users Digest Mon, 10 Jul 2000 Volume: 9 Number: 3574
Today's topics:
Installing DBI (or any module) on Win32 <grichard@uci.edu>
Re: Installing DBI (or any module) on Win32 <m@daggins.com>
Re: Installing DBI (or any module) on Win32 (Malcolm Dew-Jones)
Re: Installing DBI (or any module) on Win32 <hb@mediastudio.de>
Intelligent "chomp" ? iwelch@my-deja.com
Re: Intelligent "chomp" ? <bcaligari@shipreg.com>
Re: Intelligent "chomp" ? (Philip 'Yes, that's my address' Newton)
Re: Intelligent "chomp" ? (Abigail)
Re: Intelligent "chomp" ? (Bart Lateur)
Re: Intelligent "chomp" ? <flavell@mail.cern.ch>
Re: Intelligent "chomp" ? (Abigail)
Re: Intelligent "chomp" ? (Bart Lateur)
Re: Intelligent "chomp" ? (Abigail)
intercept a return from Redirect zhuangv@my-deja.com
Re: Interchage the role of key and value in a hash <lr@hpl.hp.com>
International chars from Oracle DB <Hans.X.Eriksson@etx.ericsson.se>
Re: International chars from Oracle DB <thunderbear@bigfoot.com>
Re: Interpreting dev and rdev from stat (in perl) (Peter Seebach)
Re: IRIX top <greenk@psns.navy.mil>
Is there a 'cursors' (or ansi) like ability with perl? <robert@chalmers.com.au>
Re: Is there a 'cursors' (or ansi) like ability with pe <uri@sysarch.com>
Re: Is there a 'cursors' (or ansi) like ability with pe <nnickee@nnickee.com>
Is there a problem with CPAN? <kj0@mailcity.com>
Re: Is there a problem with CPAN? <adetalabi@clara.co.uk>
Re: Is there a problem with CPAN? <gellyfish@gellyfish.com>
Digest Administrivia (Last modified: 16 Sep 99) (Perl-Users-Digest Admin)
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2000 11:21:00 -0700
From: "Gabe" <grichard@uci.edu>
Subject: Installing DBI (or any module) on Win32
Message-Id: <8jvuhl$cvq$1@news.service.uci.edu>
I want to install DBI and DBD::ODBC on a Win32 machine so I can talk to an
Access database from our Digital Unix/Apache webserver. How do I install
perl modules on Win32. I can't do perl Makefile.PL, make, make test, make
install. So what do I do? Just copy the files over? If this is covered in
docs somewhere that I haven't found yet, please direct me.
Gabe
------------------------------
Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2000 20:09:19 +0100
From: "daggins" <m@daggins.com>
Subject: Re: Installing DBI (or any module) on Win32
Message-Id: <8k014d$p65$1@taliesin2.netcom.net.uk>
RTFM
"Gabe" <grichard@uci.edu> wrote in message
news:8jvuhl$cvq$1@news.service.uci.edu...
> I want to install DBI and DBD::ODBC on a Win32 machine so I can talk to an
> Access database from our Digital Unix/Apache webserver. How do I install
> perl modules on Win32. I can't do perl Makefile.PL, make, make test, make
> install. So what do I do? Just copy the files over? If this is covered in
> docs somewhere that I haven't found yet, please direct me.
>
> Gabe
>
>
------------------------------
Date: 5 Jul 2000 12:56:34 -0800
From: yf110@vtn1.victoria.tc.ca (Malcolm Dew-Jones)
Subject: Re: Installing DBI (or any module) on Win32
Message-Id: <396392f2@news.victoria.tc.ca>
Gabe (grichard@uci.edu) wrote:
: I want to install DBI and DBD::ODBC on a Win32 machine so I can talk to an
: Access database from our Digital Unix/Apache webserver. How do I install
: perl modules on Win32. I can't do perl Makefile.PL, make, make test, make
: install. So what do I do? Just copy the files over? If this is covered in
: docs somewhere that I haven't found yet, please direct me.
In windows dos box running active state perl type
ppm
and then follow the instructions (such as they are).
------------------------------
Date: Thu, 06 Jul 2000 14:57:04 +0200
From: Heiko Bentrup <hb@mediastudio.de>
Subject: Re: Installing DBI (or any module) on Win32
Message-Id: <3964821F.F6813683@mediastudio.de>
use activestate vpm http://www.activestate.com/
Gabe wrote:
> I want to install DBI and DBD::ODBC on a Win32 machine so I can talk to an
> Access database from our Digital Unix/Apache webserver. How do I install
> perl modules on Win32. I can't do perl Makefile.PL, make, make test, make
> install. So what do I do? Just copy the files over? If this is covered in
> docs somewhere that I haven't found yet, please direct me.
>
> Gabe
--
Heiko Bentrup
MediaStudio
für Marketing und Multimedia GmbH
http://www.mediastudio.de
---------------------------------
------------------------------
Date: Sat, 08 Jul 2000 16:10:17 GMT
From: iwelch@my-deja.com
Subject: Intelligent "chomp" ?
Message-Id: <8k7jp5$f3h$1@nnrp1.deja.com>
Is there a more intelligent chomp that chops off either ^M^J or ^J or
^M, i.e., works for files originating either on unix, dos, or macs?
Yes, I know I can use a regex. I just wonder if there is something
*faster*...
/iaw
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
------------------------------
Date: Sun, 9 Jul 2000 01:36:14 +0200
From: "Brendon Caligari" <bcaligari@shipreg.com>
Subject: Re: Intelligent "chomp" ?
Message-Id: <8k8da1$10j$1@news.news-service.com>
<iwelch@my-deja.com> wrote in message news:8k7jp5$f3h$1@nnrp1.deja.com...
>
>
> Is there a more intelligent chomp that chops off either ^M^J or ^J or
> ^M, i.e., works for files originating either on unix, dos, or macs?
> Yes, I know I can use a regex. I just wonder if there is something
> *faster*...
>
> /iaw
>
i prefer to use regex substitution because it looks cryptic and takes more
lines of code, hence making me look more productive. However, I believe
that chomp can be 'programmed' by modifying the $/ variable (the input
record separator)..
perdoc -f chomp
Brendon
++++
------------------------------
Date: Sun, 09 Jul 2000 07:35:18 GMT
From: nospam.newton@gmx.li (Philip 'Yes, that's my address' Newton)
Subject: Re: Intelligent "chomp" ?
Message-Id: <39682772.73748132@news.nikoma.de>
On Sun, 9 Jul 2000 01:36:14 +0200, "Brendon Caligari"
<bcaligari@shipreg.com> wrote:
> <iwelch@my-deja.com> wrote in message news:8k7jp5$f3h$1@nnrp1.deja.com...
> >
> > Is there a more intelligent chomp that chops off either ^M^J or ^J or
> > ^M, i.e., works for files originating either on unix, dos, or macs?
> > Yes, I know I can use a regex. I just wonder if there is something
> > *faster*...
>
> i prefer to use regex substitution because it looks cryptic and takes more
> lines of code, hence making me look more productive. However, I believe
> that chomp can be 'programmed' by modifying the $/ variable (the input
> record separator)..
But $/ can't be a regex, so you can't use something like /\cM?\cJ|\cM/
for it -- which is what would be required. So chomp is out in this case.
Cheers,
Philip
--
Philip Newton <nospam.newton@gmx.li>
If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.
------------------------------
Date: 09 Jul 2000 05:10:43 EDT
From: abigail@delanet.com (Abigail)
Subject: Re: Intelligent "chomp" ?
Message-Id: <slrn8mghe3.tts.abigail@alexandra.delanet.com>
that's my address' Newton (nospam.newton@gmx.li) wrote on MMDIV September
MCMXCIII in <URL:news:39682772.73748132@news.nikoma.de>:
,, On Sun, 9 Jul 2000 01:36:14 +0200, "Brendon Caligari"
,, <bcaligari@shipreg.com> wrote:
,,
,, > <iwelch@my-deja.com> wrote in message news:8k7jp5$f3h$1@nnrp1.deja.com...
,, > >
,, > > Is there a more intelligent chomp that chops off either ^M^J or ^J or
,, > > ^M, i.e., works for files originating either on unix, dos, or macs?
,, > > Yes, I know I can use a regex. I just wonder if there is something
,, > > *faster*...
,, >
,, > i prefer to use regex substitution because it looks cryptic and takes more
,, > lines of code, hence making me look more productive. However, I believe
,, > that chomp can be 'programmed' by modifying the $/ variable (the input
,, > record separator)..
,,
,, But $/ can't be a regex, so you can't use something like /\cM?\cJ|\cM/
,, for it -- which is what would be required. So chomp is out in this case.
You could use:
# Chomps "\cJ", "\cM" and "\cM\cJ" line endings.
# ("\cJ\cM" becomes "\cJ").
# Chomps all arguments; if no argument given, chomps $_.
# Returns total number of characters chomped.
sub chomp {
my $chomped = 0;
foreach my $c ("\cJ", "\cM") {
local $/ = $c;
$chomped += CORE::chomp (@_ ? @_ : $_);
}
$chomped;
}
But you would have to call it as &chomp (...); or &chomp;
Abigail
--
$_ = "\x3C\x3C\x45\x4F\x54"; s/<<EOT/<<EOT/e; print;
Just another Perl Hacker
EOT
------------------------------
Date: Sun, 09 Jul 2000 09:20:03 GMT
From: bart.lateur@skynet.be (Bart Lateur)
Subject: Re: Intelligent "chomp" ?
Message-Id: <39684331.435500@news.skynet.be>
iwelch@my-deja.com wrote:
>Is there a more intelligent chomp that chops off either ^M^J or ^J or
>^M, i.e., works for files originating either on unix, dos, or macs?
>Yes, I know I can use a regex. I just wonder if there is something
>*faster*...
This will work. I'm not sure about "fastest"...
tr/\r\n//d;
--
Bart.
------------------------------
Date: Sun, 9 Jul 2000 11:52:00 +0200
From: "Alan J. Flavell" <flavell@mail.cern.ch>
Subject: Re: Intelligent "chomp" ?
Message-Id: <Pine.GHP.4.21.0007091140210.9688-100000@hpplus03.cern.ch>
On Sun, 9 Jul 2000, Bart Lateur wrote:
> iwelch@my-deja.com wrote:
>
> >Is there a more intelligent chomp that chops off either ^M^J or ^J or
> >^M, i.e., works for files originating either on unix, dos, or macs?
> This will work.
>
> tr/\r\n//d;
As long as you're comfortable with it removing \015 and \012
characters within records as well as at the ends...
To be honest, when manipulating cross-platform data formats handled as
binary[1], I'd find it clearer to write the control characters as \012
etc rather than as \n, \r etc. As it happens, your tr statement
corresponds to \015\012 on some platforms and \012\015 on another.
With tr, I admit that makes no difference to the overall function, but
to me it confuses the mental picture. See what the perlport doc says
about working with sockets, for example.
[1] which appears to be what we are dealing with here, otherwise
there wouldn't be a problem.
------------------------------
Date: 09 Jul 2000 10:35:08 EDT
From: abigail@delanet.com (Abigail)
Subject: Re: Intelligent "chomp" ?
Message-Id: <slrn8mh4ec.tts.abigail@alexandra.delanet.com>
Bart Lateur (bart.lateur@skynet.be) wrote on MMDIV September MCMXCIII in
<URL:news:39684331.435500@news.skynet.be>:
?? iwelch@my-deja.com wrote:
??
?? >Is there a more intelligent chomp that chops off either ^M^J or ^J or
?? >^M, i.e., works for files originating either on unix, dos, or macs?
?? >Yes, I know I can use a regex. I just wonder if there is something
?? >*faster*...
??
?? This will work. I'm not sure about "fastest"...
??
?? tr/\r\n//d;
Hell, no, it won't work. That removes *all* \r's and \n's from a line,
not just at the end.
Furthermore, if run on a platform where \r, \n doesn't map to the set
^M, ^J, it won't work.
Abigail
--
perl -we 'print split /(?=(.*))/s => "Just another Perl Hacker\n";'
------------------------------
Date: Sun, 09 Jul 2000 14:51:13 GMT
From: bart.lateur@skynet.be (Bart Lateur)
Subject: Re: Intelligent "chomp" ?
Message-Id: <39699050.443519@news.skynet.be>
Alan J. Flavell wrote:
>> This will work.
>>
>> tr/\r\n//d;
>
>As long as you're comfortable with it removing \015 and \012
>characters within records as well as at the ends...
I am. To me, both "\n" and "\r" mean "line end", so a "\012" or a "\015"
character inside a record (er, "line") is absolutely meaningless. Let's
get rid of it all, now.
Look, if you read a DOS text file on a Mac, then the CR ("\n") will be
at the end of the line, but the LF ("\r") wil be at the start of the
next line. So this will work very nicely.
>To be honest, when manipulating cross-platform data formats handled as
>binary[1], I'd find it clearer to write the control characters as \012
>etc rather than as \n, \r etc. As it happens, your tr statement
>corresponds to \015\012 on some platforms and \012\015 on another.
>With tr, I admit that makes no difference to the overall function, but
>to me it confuses the mental picture. See what the perlport doc says
>about working with sockets, for example.
"\r" and "\n" are both the line end indicator control characters. Which
is which, doesn't matter really. Not here. We're not generating them;
we're trying to get rid of them.
--
Bart.
------------------------------
Date: 09 Jul 2000 11:14:13 EDT
From: abigail@delanet.com (Abigail)
Subject: Re: Intelligent "chomp" ?
Message-Id: <slrn8mh6nl.7v7.abigail@alexandra.delanet.com>
Bart Lateur (bart.lateur@skynet.be) wrote on MMDIV September MCMXCIII in
<URL:news:39699050.443519@news.skynet.be>:
%% Alan J. Flavell wrote:
%%
%% >> This will work.
%% >>
%% >> tr/\r\n//d;
%% >
%% >As long as you're comfortable with it removing \015 and \012
%% >characters within records as well as at the ends...
%%
%% I am. To me, both "\n" and "\r" mean "line end", so a "\012" or a "\015"
%% character inside a record (er, "line") is absolutely meaningless. Let's
%% get rid of it all, now.
That's fine, but then you are solving a totally different problem
that is being discussed. Perhaps the lines are coming from a tied
filehandle and *will* have embedded newlines and carriage returns.
Or the program is run on a platform that doesn't map \r and \n
on the same set as your computer does.
Use of \n and \r when dealing with cross platform *DATA* is inheritedly
wrong.
Abigail
--
perl -wle '(1 x $_) !~ /^(11+)\1+$/ && print while ++ $_'
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 16:56:24 GMT
From: zhuangv@my-deja.com
Subject: intercept a return from Redirect
Message-Id: <8kcv7o$2lm$1@nnrp2.deja.com>
I try to redirect to a remote URL which is composed of cgi-bin. However,
the remote server returns a confirmation page. How can I intercept that
or trash it?
Thanks for your help.
--Vincent
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
------------------------------
Date: Tue, 4 Jul 2000 16:54:59 -0700
From: Larry Rosler <lr@hpl.hp.com>
Subject: Re: Interchage the role of key and value in a hash
Message-Id: <MPG.13cc1928f333320198aba4@nntp.hpl.hp.com>
In article <8jplfk$gk1$1@orpheus.gellyfish.com>, gellyfish@gellyfish.com
says...
> On 2 Jul 2000 19:49:34 GMT Tina Mueller wrote:
> > Jonathan Stowe <gellyfish@gellyfish.com> wrote:
...
> >>> foreach (keys %entity) {
> >>> %code($entity($_)) = $_
> >>> }
> >
> >> Thats one way of doing it,
> >
> > no, it isn't. i get a syntax error. if you want to
> > use something like the above foreach loop, better write
> > $code{$entity{$_}} = $_;
>
> I blame the font I am using ... theres not enough difference between () and
> {} and I'm sticking to it ...
Not only that, '%' and '$' look alike. Yeah, that's the problem.
How about using yet another prefix:
@code{values %entity} = keys %entity;
No patent loop now. But the reverse() solution is still best, I think.
--
(Just Another Larry) Rosler
Hewlett-Packard Laboratories
http://www.hpl.hp.com/personal/Larry_Rosler/
lr@hpl.hp.com
------------------------------
Date: Thu, 06 Jul 2000 08:58:35 +0200
From: Hans Eriksson <Hans.X.Eriksson@etx.ericsson.se>
Subject: International chars from Oracle DB
Message-Id: <39642E1B.2E938616@etx.ericsson.se>
Hello,
I'm not sure if this is the right newsgroup for my problem, but here it
is:
I'm fetching data from an Oracle DB via the DBI interface. When I fetch
data with international characters such as å, ä and ö they turn up as
question marks. This doesn't happen just in the web browser but also
directly in the terminal window (on the Unix server on which I run
Perl).
Does anyone know of how to get international characters (in my case
ISO-8859-1 extended chars) to get printed correctly?
Regards
Hans Eriksson
------------------------------
Date: Thu, 06 Jul 2000 11:12:39 +0200
From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Thorbj=F8rn?= Ravn Andersen <thunderbear@bigfoot.com>
Subject: Re: International chars from Oracle DB
Message-Id: <39644D87.C4C0B7BA@bigfoot.com>
Hans Eriksson wrote:
> Does anyone know of how to get international characters (in my case
> ISO-8859-1 extended chars) to get printed correctly?
Check the section on "International NLS/ 8-bit text issues"
in "perldoc DBD::Oracle".
You need an appropriate value set in $NLS_LANG.
--
Thorbjørn Ravn Andersen "...plus...Tubular Bells!"
http://bigfoot.com/~thunderbear
------------------------------
Date: 05 Jul 2000 15:19:05 GMT
From: seebs@plethora.net (Peter Seebach)
Subject: Re: Interpreting dev and rdev from stat (in perl)
Message-Id: <396351e9$0$8301$3c090ad1@news.plethora.net>
In article <395A3FB5.A8E3FDA5@image.kodak.com>,
Jim Moore <jmoore@image.kodak.com> wrote:
>I am writing a user friendly wrapper for "stat" so that I can see among
>other information all of the "times" at the same time. I am looking at
>what to do with "dev" and "rdev". I have looked at the Sun answerbook,
>and really don't seem to understand how to interpret them. Also, in
>terms of permissions, I can see how you can get some information out of
>the high order bits, to determine if it is a fifo, block, or character
>special file.
It is totally unclear how to interpret them. :)
>What useful information is in dev, and rdev values, do they change (are
>they dynamic -- i.e. will they change if I look at them at different
>times of day?)
I have never really looked at rdev, but dev is a magic number; I believe
it's offset in kernel device table, except on NFS filesystems.
If you poke around my web page, it has some utilities including a "stat"
program. Sample output:
File: <stdin>+
Major: 5 Minor: 5
Owner: 100 (seebs) Group: 4 (tty)
Mode: 0620 (crw--w----) Type: character special
Inode: 245 Device: 0
Links: 1
Last access: Wed Jul 5 10:13:31 2000
Last modify: Wed Jul 5 10:13:31 2000
Last change: Wed Jul 5 10:13:31 2000
I believe it survives Solaris, Linux, an old SCO Unix, and most BSD's.
At one point, I had it correctly-hacked to handle major/minor/sub numbers,
ala BSD/OS, but it's not doing that right now.
Free code, do what you want with it.
-s
--
Copyright 2000, All rights reserved. Peter Seebach / seebs@plethora.net
C/Unix wizard, Pro-commerce radical, Spam fighter. Boycott Spamazon!
Consulting & Computers: http://www.plethora.net/
------------------------------
Date: Fri, 07 Jul 2000 22:30:04 GMT
From: <greenk@psns.navy.mil>
Subject: Re: IRIX top
Message-Id: <smcmfc80nu60@corp.supernews.com>
Try using osview. I use that on Irix 6.2 It works!
--
Posted via CNET Help.com
http://www.help.com/
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 14:17:36 +1000
From: "Robert Chalmers" <robert@chalmers.com.au>
Subject: Is there a 'cursors' (or ansi) like ability with perl? hmm. how do I say this?
Message-Id: <X4ca5.56$rc3.3635@nsw.nnrp.telstra.net>
I'm trying to get the output of a running perl program to output in the same
place on the screen, without scrolling up the terminal ...
Can't do X in perl, but that type of screen/terminal addressing used to be
possible with the ansi codes...
Even just to get a spinning "\" in the same place would be nice.
Does nayone have any ides on how best to achieve screen aposition
addressing?
Thanks
Bob
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 04:32:02 GMT
From: Uri Guttman <uri@sysarch.com>
Subject: Re: Is there a 'cursors' (or ansi) like ability with perl? hmm. how do I say this?
Message-Id: <x73dliobb1.fsf@home.sysarch.com>
>>>>> "RC" == Robert Chalmers <robert@chalmers.com.au> writes:
RC> I'm trying to get the output of a running perl program to output
RC> in the same place on the screen, without scrolling up the terminal
RC> ...
perl has a curses module. find it at cpan.org. use the search feature.
RC> Can't do X in perl, but that type of screen/terminal addressing
RC> used to be possible with the ansi codes...
huh? ever heard of perl/tk? it has its own newsgroup c.l.p.tk. also gtk
is supported in perl. plenty of x is done with both of them.
uri
--
Uri Guttman --------- uri@sysarch.com ---------- http://www.sysarch.com
SYStems ARCHitecture, Software Engineering, Perl, Internet, UNIX Consulting
The Perl Books Page ----------- http://www.sysarch.com/cgi-bin/perl_books
The Best Search Engine on the Net ---------- http://www.northernlight.com
------------------------------
Date: Sun, 09 Jul 2000 23:51:16 -0500
From: Nnickee <nnickee@nnickee.com>
Subject: Re: Is there a 'cursors' (or ansi) like ability with perl? hmm. how do I say this?
Message-Id: <1BABA26E64C4A575.FBD7988A5250B808.135AC73EDFFB60F2@lp.airnews.net>
On Mon, 10 Jul 2000 14:17:36 +1000, someone claiming to be "Robert
Chalmers" <robert@chalmers.com.au> said:
>I'm trying to get the output of a running perl program to output in the same
>place on the screen, without scrolling up the terminal ...
>Can't do X in perl, but that type of screen/terminal addressing used to be
>possible with the ansi codes...
>Even just to get a spinning "\" in the same place would be nice.
Well if that's all you want:
$chars = '/-\|' x 10;
foreach $ch (split //, $chars) {
print "\b$ch";
sleep(1);
}
(worked for me on win98 - YMMV)
>Does nayone have any ides on how best to achieve screen aposition
>addressing?
Oh, how to do it *best*?
You might want to try Win32::Console (I notice from your headers that
you're using winblows too).
Nnickee
------------------------------
Date: 4 Jul 2000 15:32:34 -0400
From: kj0 <kj0@mailcity.com>
Subject: Is there a problem with CPAN?
Message-Id: <8jte4i$kua$1@panix3.panix.com>
What happened to CPAN?
It seems that it's very sick.
------------------------------
Date: Wed, 05 Jul 2000 10:26:39 +0100
From: Ade Talabi <adetalabi@clara.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Is there a problem with CPAN?
Message-Id: <3962FF4F.78DCA2F7@clara.co.uk>
kj0 wrote:
>
> What happened to CPAN?
>
> It seems that it's very sic
It seems OK...try other CPAN sites
--
We see, whatever we want to see, whether visible or not
- AT. June 2000.
------------------------------
Date: Wed, 05 Jul 2000 15:38:02 GMT
From: Jonathan Stowe <gellyfish@gellyfish.com>
Subject: Re: Is there a problem with CPAN?
Message-Id: <uDI85.1399$iP2.130647@news.dircon.co.uk>
On 4 Jul 2000 15:32:34 -0400, kj0 Wrote:
>
> What happened to CPAN?
>
> It seems that it's very sick.
Seems perfectly alright to me ....
/J\
------------------------------
Date: 16 Sep 99 21:33:47 GMT (Last modified)
From: Perl-Users-Request@ruby.oce.orst.edu (Perl-Users-Digest Admin)
Subject: Digest Administrivia (Last modified: 16 Sep 99)
Message-Id: <null>
Administrivia:
The Perl-Users Digest is a retransmission of the USENET newsgroup
comp.lang.perl.misc. For subscription or unsubscription requests, send
the single line:
subscribe perl-users
or:
unsubscribe perl-users
to almanac@ruby.oce.orst.edu.
| NOTE: The mail to news gateway, and thus the ability to submit articles
| through this service to the newsgroup, has been removed. I do not have
| time to individually vet each article to make sure that someone isn't
| abusing the service, and I no longer have any desire to waste my time
| dealing with the campus admins when some fool complains to them about an
| article that has come through the gateway instead of complaining
| to the source.
To submit articles to comp.lang.perl.announce, send your article to
clpa@perl.com.
To request back copies (available for a week or so), send your request
to almanac@ruby.oce.orst.edu with the command "send perl-users x.y",
where x is the volume number and y is the issue number.
For other requests pertaining to the digest, send mail to
perl-users-request@ruby.oce.orst.edu. Do not waste your time or mine
sending perl questions to the -request address, I don't have time to
answer them even if I did know the answer.
------------------------------
End of Perl-Users Digest V9 Issue 3574
**************************************
