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Perl-Users Digest           Thu, 8 Jun 2000     Volume: 9 Number: 3285

Today's topics:
        ActivePerl Win32 dbmopen, which implementation? <johnlin@chttl.com.tw>
    Re: ActivePerl Win32 dbmopen, which implementation? <bwalton@rochester.rr.com>
    Re: Aol coockie: date error (Tony L. Svanstrom)
    Re: Aol coockie: date error <tony_curtis32@yahoo.com>
    Re: Aol coockie: date error <thetrader@worldnet.att.net>
    Re: Aol coockie: date error (Tony L. Svanstrom)
    Re: Aol coockie: date error <lr@hpl.hp.com>
    Re: calling LWP::Simple::get from browser vs. from comm (Rafael Garcia-Suarez)
    Re: Content-type header to Set Cookie (Eric Bohlman)
    Re: General failure reading device (Win32) <bwalton@rochester.rr.com>
    Re: How to lock a tie()d file? <daveimeNOdaSPAM@nsclub.net.invalid>
        Linux/Perl classes <stephen@scriptsavant.com>
    Re: localtime <michael.schlueter@philips.com>
    Re: Moving from Unix to NT - sending mail <wyzelli@yahoo.com>
    Re: My site host has no perl interpreter... (Eric Bohlman)
        newbie working on web stuff... <vostok@mirdesign.com>
    Re: Perl 5.6 Installation <randy@theory.uwinnipeg.ca>
        Digest Administrivia (Last modified: 16 Sep 99) (Perl-Users-Digest Admin)

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Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2000 09:07:18 +0800
From: "John Lin" <johnlin@chttl.com.tw>
Subject: ActivePerl Win32 dbmopen, which implementation?
Message-Id: <8hmrie$epm@netnews.hinet.net>

Dear all,

Someone asked me the properties and features (such as size limitation)
of the dbm files created by 'dbmopen' (ActivePerl, Win32).

I redirect him to read the documentation:

perldoc AnyDBM_File

but we don't know which implementation to look at.
odbm? ndbm? sdbm? gdbm? or bsd-db?

Can you tell me which implementation, by default, is ActivePerl's dbmopen?

Thank you.

John Lin





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Date: Thu, 08 Jun 2000 02:16:10 GMT
From: Bob Walton <bwalton@rochester.rr.com>
Subject: Re: ActivePerl Win32 dbmopen, which implementation?
Message-Id: <393F00E6.BE1A5B35@rochester.rr.com>

John Lin wrote:
 ...
> but we don't know which implementation to look at.
> odbm? ndbm? sdbm? gdbm? or bsd-db?
> 
> Can you tell me which implementation, by default, is ActivePerl's dbmopen?
 ...
> John Lin
It looks like prior to Perl 5.6 the default was SDBM_File (which, BTW,
doesn't work reliably on FAT or FAT32 file systems -- it is reliable
only on NTFS).  It looks like build 613 uses DB_File for the dbmopen
default, which is cool, since it works a lot better and offers much
greater functionality.
-- 
Bob Walton


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Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2000 03:54:02 +0200
From: tony@svanstrom.com (Tony L. Svanstrom)
Subject: Re: Aol coockie: date error
Message-Id: <1ebw2n3.7ggxco1wmkgucN%tony@svanstrom.com>

Larry Rosler <lr@hpl.hp.com> wrote:

> In article <1ebv8d5.1901a5wxc89qeN%tony@svanstrom.com> on Wed, 7 Jun 
> 2000 17:00:06 +0200, Tony L. Svanstrom <tony@svanstrom.com> says...
> 
> ...
> 
> > my $cookietime = "@days[$temptime[6]], $temptime[3]-@months[$temptime[4]]-".
> > ($temptime[5]+1900) . " "; my @ends = (':',':',' GMT',);
> 
> The '-w' flag would warn you about the two incorrect accesses to those
> array elements.

I'll take your word for it (that it should happen), but... hmmm... nope,
just checked it, nope, no warnings at all.


     /Tony
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Date: 07 Jun 2000 20:57:30 -0500
From: Tony Curtis <tony_curtis32@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Aol coockie: date error
Message-Id: <874s7553zp.fsf@limey.hpcc.uh.edu>

>> On Thu, 8 Jun 2000 03:54:02 +0200,
>> tony@svanstrom.com (Tony L. Svanstrom) said:

> Larry Rosler <lr@hpl.hp.com> wrote:
>> In article <1ebv8d5.1901a5wxc89qeN%tony@svanstrom.com>
>> on Wed, 7 Jun 2000 17:00:06 +0200, Tony L. Svanstrom
>> <tony@svanstrom.com> says...
>> 
>> > my $cookietime = "@days[$temptime[6]],
>> $temptime[3]-@months[$temptime[4]]-".  >
>> ($temptime[5]+1900) . " "; my @ends = (':',':','
>> GMT',);
>> 
>> The '-w' flag would warn you about the two incorrect
>> accesses to those array elements.

> I'll take your word for it (that it should happen),
> but... hmmm... nope, just checked it, nope, no warnings
> at all.

$ perl -cw
my $cookietime = "@days[$temptime[6]], $temptime[3]-@months[$temptime[4]]-".
($temptime[5]+1900) . " "; my @ends = (':',':',' GMT',);
In string, @days now must be written as \@days at - line 1, near "@days"
In string, @months now must be written as \@months at - line 1, near "]-@months"
^D
- had compilation errors.

Do you have a very old perl version?

-- 
"Trying is the first step towards failure"
                                           Homer Simpson


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Date: Thu, 08 Jun 2000 02:19:46 GMT
From: "Free Lance" <thetrader@worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Re: Aol coockie: date error
Message-Id: <6pD%4.90$ov1.3675@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>

Thanks for your help and discussion, but my question was not about how to
build the expiration date
I believe I have that under control as my script works with about every body
but the folks that log through AOL...
For the sake of it I use:
$date="$day[$wday], $mday-$months[$mon]-$year $hour:$min:$sec GMT";

with the obvious arrays predefined...@day,@months

I heard that there is a trick to write a cookie to AOL users
may have to do with proxy specs?
Gerry


Free Lance <thetrader@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
news:Qzi%4.646$ee3.31206@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
> Does anyone know about this issue?
> My script successfully writes cookies with a one year expiration date
> with AOL i get an error like :
> date error:  today's date + one year
>
> Thank you for your help
>
>




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Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2000 05:04:04 +0200
From: tony@svanstrom.com (Tony L. Svanstrom)
Subject: Re: Aol coockie: date error
Message-Id: <1ebw5zs.ffwlsmry6n40N%tony@svanstrom.com>

Free Lance <thetrader@worldnet.att.net> wrote:

> Thanks for your help and discussion, but my question was not about how to
> build the expiration date I believe I have that under control as my script
> works with about every body but the folks that log through AOL...

Which doesn't mean that it's correct, Mozilla and IE accept cookies that
are not 100% correct; it's generally the date and time that other
browsers are more strict about. Now, if that has anything to do with the
software that AOL has I don't know.


     /Tony
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Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2000 23:42:25 -0700
From: Larry Rosler <lr@hpl.hp.com>
Subject: Re: Aol coockie: date error
Message-Id: <MPG.13a8e02d6f6d777598ab42@nntp.hpl.hp.com>

In article <874s7553zp.fsf@limey.hpcc.uh.edu>, tony_curtis32@yahoo.com 
says...
> >> On Thu, 8 Jun 2000 03:54:02 +0200,
> >> tony@svanstrom.com (Tony L. Svanstrom) said:

 ...

> $ perl -cw
> my $cookietime = "@days[$temptime[6]], $temptime[3]-@months[$temptime[4]]-".
> ($temptime[5]+1900) . " "; my @ends = (':',':',' GMT',);
> In string, @days now must be written as \@days at - line 1, near "@days"
> In string, @months now must be written as \@months at - line 1, near "]-@months"
> ^D
> - had compilation errors.

The proper correction isn't to backslash the '@'s but to replace them by 
'$'s (interpolate scalars, though perl thinks it is trying to 
interpolate nonexistent arrays).

-- 
(Just Another Larry) Rosler
Hewlett-Packard Laboratories
http://www.hpl.hp.com/personal/Larry_Rosler/
lr@hpl.hp.com


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Date: Thu, 08 Jun 2000 06:52:01 GMT
From: garcia_suarez@hotmail.com (Rafael Garcia-Suarez)
Subject: Re: calling LWP::Simple::get from browser vs. from command line
Message-Id: <slrn8jugrg.beq.garcia_suarez@rafael.kazibao.net>

afedorova@my-deja.com wrote in comp.lang.perl.misc:
>I am experiencing inconsistent behavior when calling LWP::Simple::get
>([some url]) from command line vs. from a browser. In particular, I
>have a perl script that does the following:
>--------------------------
>
>use LWP::Simple;
>
>print "Content-type: text/html\n\n";
>
>my $page = LWP::Simple::get("http://www.yahoo.com");
>if ( defined ($page) )
>{
>print $page;
>}
>
>--------------------------
>
>When I call this perl script from a command line, it works great. When
>I try to launch this script from the browser, the script itself gets
>launched, but the $page is always undefined - it is empty.

This script works fine for me, both as standalone and as CGI.
Can you describe your configuration more precisely? I suspect
that the machine that runs your web server can't access directly
www.yahoo.com. Perhaps does it use a firewall and an HTTP proxy.

-- 
Rafael Garcia-Suarez


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Date: 8 Jun 2000 03:09:59 GMT
From: ebohlman@netcom.com (Eric Bohlman)
Subject: Re: Content-type header to Set Cookie
Message-Id: <8hn2q7$v51$1@slb7.atl.mindspring.net>

Norbert Wienholz (norbert@NOSPAMcontrex-us.com) wrote:
: Can I reset the Content-Type after outputting some HTML
: (where it was set to text/html), to be able to set a cookie
: afterwards?

Nope.  The CGI protocol has headers first and body second.  There's no CGI
equivalent of Usenet Jeopardy quoting :)

 : Rearranging the code to set the cookie before would be
: very inefficient in this case.

In that case, you'll have to squirrel your output away in buffers and 
then output them in the correct order once everything's been built.

: print "Content-type: text/html\n\n";
: print "...HTML CODE..."
: print "Set-Cookie: name=$name; expires=$expire;\n";
:    [This way it prints out the Set-Cookie command]

Of course.  BTW, there's no such thing in CGI or HTTP as a "command." 
There are headers which *describe* the content being returned, and then
there's a body which consists of the actual content. 

Probably the most pervasive case of incorrect mental models I've ever seen
is the very common belief among novice Web programmers that a server can
order a browser around.  It simply doesn't work that way.  A browser
*asks* a server for a resource, and the server sends back exactly what was
asked for, along with a description of that resource. 

 : 
: (I don't want to use CGI.pm. I'm still learning
: Perl and would like to know what's happening.)

That's *not* a valid reason to avoid using a module.  All the standard 
Perl modules are open-source; if you want to know what's happening, you 
just read their code.  While the CGI protocol is fairly simple, it 
includes a lot of picky details, and unless you're in the fairly unusual 
position of being a novice to Perl but an expert in the CGI protocol 
(which your question indicates you aren't) you're likely to get many of 
those details wrong if you try to re-invent the wheel.  For that matter, 
even if you *were* in expert in CGI *and* an expert in Perl, you'd still 
be wasting your time trying to reinvent the wheel.


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Date: Thu, 08 Jun 2000 03:13:42 GMT
From: Bob Walton <bwalton@rochester.rr.com>
Subject: Re: General failure reading device (Win32)
Message-Id: <393F0E62.AE00A9B3@rochester.rr.com>

Vince Wilding wrote:
> 
> Using ActiveState Build 522 on Win98 (This NEVER happened on NT)  I get
> a "General failure reading device" error (no device mentioned!) when I
> try to do a file OPEN.  Sometimes I see the light come on on the A:
> drive, even though I don't reference it anywhere in the code. I give it
> a cupla "f"'s and it goes on its merry way.  I've tried the "/f" switch
> for COMMAND.COM but that doesn't help.
> 
> Any Ideas?
Yes.  The "general failure..." message is generated by Windows, not
Perl, and usually indicates some hardware problem with the device, like
a double-density floppy used when a high-density floppy is needed, or a
hard drive with an incipient bearing failure, etc.  I would suspect the
device on which the file in the "open" command you mention resides.  If
it is a hard drive, clone it and replace it *now*.
> 
> --
> Vince Wilding, Web Wrangler, MetaData Maven, Perl Hacker Wannabe
> USGS/BRD/OBIO
> mailto:vince_wilding@usgs.gov --- http://biology.usgs.gov/~vwilding/
> The truth is out there, I just forgot the URL
-- 
Bob Walton


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Date: Wed, 07 Jun 2000 21:59:29 -0700
From: daveime <daveimeNOdaSPAM@nsclub.net.invalid>
Subject: Re: How to lock a tie()d file?
Message-Id: <03e95cc7.3a86b95a@usw-ex0105-037.remarq.com>

I noted the comments on DB_File - I had come across them
elsewhere also, the 4k cache read issue. I'd like advice on the
following related topic.

In Peter Hill's response, we use a separate lock
file "customers.lock", and test for whether we can lock this
before we tie the database.

Usually, the last two things in any script would be UNTIE the
database, and remove the lock on "customers.lock".

Okay in principle, but if the script terminates prematurely, the
UNTIE will happen anyway when the variables are deallocated, but
the file "customers.lock" will never be unlocked - so no other
user will be able to get a lock on in. Is there a way round
this, without resorting to a wrapper on DB_File (I know they
exist e.g. DB_File::Lock2, but my web space provider is being
very obstructive and won't "make" that library for me). So I
need a simple solution.

Any ideas ?

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Date: Thu, 08 Jun 2000 06:01:22 GMT
From: "Stephen" <stephen@scriptsavant.com>
Subject: Linux/Perl classes
Message-Id: <SEG%4.5944$Md1.335628@news.flash.net>

I'm looking for classes on either Perl or Linux in the Boston/Providence
area in the mid-July - early-August timeframe.  If anyone can advise me of
specific classes or good places to look, I'd be much obliged.

I'm a novice with Linux - I can write shell scripts (bash), but that's about
the extent of my understanding of Linux.

I'm intermediate with Perl.  I can do just about anything I want to do, I
just don't always do it well.

Thanks in advance,
Stephen Brown




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Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2000 20:55:32 +0200
From: "Michael Schlueter" <michael.schlueter@philips.com>
Subject: Re: localtime
Message-Id: <8hng29$nom$1@porthos.nl.uu.net>

Perhaps you can benefit from one of CPAN's date-modules? Many people already
extended the limited functionality of localtime(). There is a nice search
facility on

http://search.cpan.org

E.g. this is what you get when searching for 'date' :

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 70 modules found in 37 distributions matching 'date'

Apache-HeavyCGI-0.0117  by  Andreas J. Konig  Released
22nd October 1999
Apache::HeavyCGI::Date  - represent a date as both unix time and HTTP time
1.00

CGI-Validate-2.000  by  Byron Brummer  Released
28th May 1998
CGI::Validate  - Advanced CGI form parser and type validation  2.00

DBIx-HTMLView-0.7  by  Hakan Ardo  Released
2nd May 2000
DBIx::HTMLView::Date  - A simple date filed

DailyUpdate-7.00  by  David Coppit  Released
25th March 1999
DailyUpdate::AcquisitionFunctions    0.50
DailyUpdate::Cache    0.10
DailyUpdate::HTMLTools    0.30
DailyUpdate::Handler    0.30
DailyUpdate::Handler::Filter::cacheimages    0.20
DailyUpdate::Handler::Filter::grep    0.20
DailyUpdate::Handler::Filter::hash2array    0.20
DailyUpdate::Handler::Filter::highlight    0.20
DailyUpdate::Handler::Filter::limit    0.20
DailyUpdate::Handler::Filter::map    0.20
DailyUpdate::Handler::Filter::selectkeys    0.20
DailyUpdate::Handler::Output::array    0.20
DailyUpdate::Handler::Output::string    0.20
DailyUpdate::Handler::Output::table    0.20
DailyUpdate::Handler::Output::thread    0.20
DailyUpdate::HandlerFactory    0.40
DailyUpdate::Interpreter    0.10
DailyUpdate::Parser    0.40

Date-Business-1.2  by  Richard DeSimine  Released
29th January 2000
Date::Business  - fast calendar and business date calculations  1.20

Date-Calc-4.3  by  Steffen Beyer  Released
11th January 2000
Date::Calc  - Gregorian calendar date calculations  4.30

Date-GetDate-2.02  by  Andreas J. Konig  Released
12th July 1998
Date::GetDate    2.02

Date-Horoscope-2.0  by  Terrence Brannon  Released
17th May 2000
Date::Horoscope  - Date operations based on the horoscope calendar  2.00

Date-Ordinal-2.9  by  Terrence Brannon  Released
20th February 2000
Date::Ordinal  - Conversion of dates to ordinal numbers and vice versa  2.90

DateConvert-0.16  by  Mordechai Abzug  Released
27th January 2000
Date::Convert  - Convert Between any two Calendrical Formats  0.16

DateManip-5.38  by  Sullivan Beck  Released
23rd May 2000
Date::Manip  - date manipulation routines  5.38

DateTime-Precise-1.00  by  Blair Zajac  Released
4th May 1999
DateTime::Precise  - Perform common time and date operations with  1.00

Date_Maya-1.1  by  Abigail  Released
10th September 1999
Date::Maya  - Translate between Julian days and Maya days.

DbFramework-1.08  by  Paul Sharpe  Released
2nd April 1999
DbFramework::CandidateKey

Interval.0.02  by  Kristian Torp  Released
4th December 1997
Date::Interval  - handling of temporal intervals based on Date::Manip  0.02

MailTools-1.1401  by  Graham Barr  Released
14th April 2000
Mail::Field::Date    1.03

Net-DNS-0.12  by  Michael Fuhr  Released
2nd October 1997
Net::DNS::Update  - Create a DNS update packet  0.00

Net-Jabber-1.0d  by  Ryan Eatmon  Released
26th May 2000
Net::Jabber::Query::AutoUpdate  - Jabber IQ AutoUpdate Module  1.00
Net::Jabber::Query::AutoUpdate::Release  - Jabber IQ AutoUpdate Release
Module  1.00
Net::Jabber::X::AutoUpdate  - Jabber X AutoUpdate Delegate  1.00

OO-DateTime-0.01  by  Tobias Brox  Released
2nd March 2000
Date::Time  - Lightweight normalised datetime data type  0.01

Persistent-Base-0.52  by  David Winters  Released
26th February 2000
Persistent::DataType::DateTime  - A Date and Time Class  0.00

PlotCalendar-1.1  by  Alan K. Jackson  Released
2nd July 1999
PlotCalendar::DateDesc  - Perl extension for interpreting a file of  1.00
PlotCalendar::DateTools  - This is an all perl replacement for parts of
1.00

Search-InvertedIndex-1.08  by  Benjamin Franz  Released
25th January 2000
Search::InvertedIndex::Update  - A container for a mass data update for
a -group/-index.  1.00

Statistics-MaxEntropy-0.9  by  Hugo WL ter Doest  Released
26th November 1998
Statistics::Candidates

SyslogScan-0.32  by  Rolf Harold Nelson  Released
24th November 1997
SyslogScan::ParseDate

Tangram-1.11  by  Jean-Louis Leroy  Released
29th May 2000
Tangram::RawDate
Tangram::RawDateTime

Time-modules-100.010301  by  David Muir Sharnoff  Released
3rd January 2000
Time::ParseDate  - date parsing both relative and absolute  100.01

TimeDate-1.09  by  Graham Barr  Released
29th March 2000
Date::Format  - Date formating subroutines  2.08
Date::Language    1.06
Date::Language::Austrian
Date::Language::Czech
Date::Language::English
Date::Language::French
Date::Language::German
Date::Language::Italian
Date::Language::Norwegian
Date::Parse  - Parse date strings into time values  2.11

Tk-Date-0.28  by  Slaven Rezic  Released
14th April 1999
Tk::Date  - a date/time widget for perl/Tk  0.28

Tk-DateEntry-1.3  by  Hans Jorgen Helgesen  Released
10th November 1999
Tk::DateEntry  - Drop down calendar widget for selecting dates.  1.30

WDDX-1.00  by  Scott Guelich  Released
17th January 2000
WDDX::Datetime    1.00

Win32-ASP-DB-0.01  by  Toby Everett  Released
21st March 2000
Win32::ASP::Field::datetime

XML-XQL-0.61  by  Enno Derksen  Released
2nd August 1999
XML::XQL::Date

frogbak  by  David Muir Sharnoff  Released
8th November 1996
ParseDate

lcwa-1.0.0  by  Ralf S. Engelschall  Released
30th October 1997
Date::Format  - Date formating subroutines  2.07
Date::Language    1.05
Date::Parse  - Parse date strings into time values  2.06
HTTP::Date    1.26

libwww-perl-5.48  by  Gisle Aas  Released
9th April 2000
HTTP::Date  - date conversion routines  1.40

libxml-enno-1.02  by  Enno Derksen  Released
27th March 2000
XML::XQL::Date  - Adds an XQL::Node type for representing and comparing
dates and times

p5-Palm-1.1.5  by  Andrew Arensburger  Released
8th May 2000
Palm::Datebook  - Handler for Palm DateBook databases.  1.50










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Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2000 12:03:58 +0930
From: "Wyzelli" <wyzelli@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Moving from Unix to NT - sending mail
Message-Id: <1BD%4.13$tY3.2149@vic.nntp.telstra.net>

Ben Hambidge <newsmay2000@ordinate.co.uk> wrote in message
news:393ebbbf.6600451@news.nildram.co.uk...
> I have to move my CGI script from a Unix web server to a WinNT server.
> I send mail by piping to /usr/lib/sendmail using
> open(MAIL,"|/usr/lib/sendmail $recipient");
>
> What do I need to do to acheive the same effect in Windows?
>
The simplest is to install one of the windows ports of sendmail.

www.dynamicstate.com

Wyzelli




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Date: 8 Jun 2000 03:16:27 GMT
From: ebohlman@netcom.com (Eric Bohlman)
Subject: Re: My site host has no perl interpreter...
Message-Id: <8hn36b$v51$2@slb7.atl.mindspring.net>

freddy (eolfreddyNOeoSPAM@hotmail.com.invalid) wrote:
: I am halfway into getting a shopping cart system to work
: with my site (PerlShop).
: 
: However, apparently my web site host should have a "perl
: interpreter".
: 
: I telephoned my host and they don't seem to know much
: about this, so my question is, can I install a perl interpreter
: myself? Where would I get an interpreter from?

"Shopping cart" seems to indicate that you're running a business that
expects to do a non-trivial amount of its sales over the Web.  If I were
in that position, I wouldn't trust my primary sales tool to a hosting
service whose personnel were that clueless about something so fundamental. 



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Date: Wed, 07 Jun 2000 22:55:58 -0500
From: ice station vostok <vostok@mirdesign.com>
Subject: newbie working on web stuff...
Message-Id: <B564837D.8A77%vostok@mirdesign.com>

hi everyone...

i'm a recent perl person (up to 48 hours now) and have gotten about halfway
with what i'm trying to do...

i have a script that will write a random server side include tag to pull
random content into a web page...my problem is that the scritp will write
(print) the tag, but what can i put on the page to call the script to print
the tag...

i want people to hit the page, have it call the script for the random tag
and then pull in the random content...

anyone have suggestions?...

thx
mike



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Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2000 23:16:47 -0500
From: "Randy Kobes" <randy@theory.uwinnipeg.ca>
Subject: Re: Perl 5.6 Installation
Message-Id: <8hn6rc$ses$1@canopus.cc.umanitoba.ca>


Samay <samay1NOsaSPAM@hotmail.com.invalid> wrote in
    message news:3aa774ae.4e72cf51@usw-ex0103-019.remarq.com...
> I even download.. the DBI.pm 1.13.1 from CPAN
> and extracted.. 'perl MakeFile.PL' doesn't work..
> It gives some experimental threading warning..
> and then gives this.. gui error again..about illegal operation..

I believe with threads in 5.6.0 that DBI needs some
tweaking - take a look at the April mod_perl mailing list at
http://www.davin.ottawa.on.ca/archive/modperl/2000-04/threads.phtml
and follow the "mod_perl 2.x/perl 5.6.x ?" thread.
In it there's some (unofficial) patches.

best regards,
randy kobes





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