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Perl-Users Digest           Mon, 8 Nov 1999     Volume: 9 Number: 1312

Today's topics:
    Re: PERL in Windows CE? johnsteele@my-deja.com
    Re: PERL in Windows CE? <john.saylor@cybertrust.gte.com>
    Re: PERL in Windows CE? <uri@sysarch.com>
    Re: PERL in Windows CE? (H. Merijn Brand)
    Re: PERL in Windows CE? johnsteele@my-deja.com
    Re: PERL in Windows CE? (Ilya Zakharevich)
    Re: PERL in Windows CE? <uri@sysarch.com>
    Re: PERL in Windows CE? (Jan Andersen)
    Re: PERL in Windows CE? (Bart Lateur)
    Re: PERL in Windows CE? <peter@berghold.net>
    Re: perl JS interpreter? counting keywords? <itti@klab.caltech.edu>
        Perl script required - Willing to pay <lordy@tcp.co.uk>
    Re: Perl script required - Willing to pay <gellyfish@gellyfish.com>
    Re: Perl script required - Willing to pay (Michel Dalle)
    Re: Perl script required - Willing to pay <uri@sysarch.com>
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    Re: Perl script required - Willing to pay <lordy@tcp.co.uk>
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Date: Fri, 05 Nov 1999 15:36:48 GMT
From: johnsteele@my-deja.com
Subject: Re: PERL in Windows CE?
Message-Id: <7vuthv$pte$1@nnrp1.deja.com>

In article <x73dul79rf.fsf@home.sysarch.com>,
  Uri Guttman <uri@sysarch.com> wrote:
> >>>>> "j" == johnsteele  <johnsteele@my-deja.com> writes:
>
>   j> Anyone know if PERL (ActiveState) will run under Windows CE?
John
>
> does anything run (as opposed to crawl) under wince? i wrote an rtos
for
> a pdp-11 (20 years ago that was faster and more stable than wince. it
is
> the bloatiest piece of shit redmond has ever evacuated out its
> anus. they paid att 5 BILLION (buying their stock) to force them to
use
> it their set top boxes (att owns lots of cable co's now) because NO
ONE
> was buying it. like other redmondware it charged more than its
> competitors for less and said it has compatiblity with winblows!
think
> of all those winblow programmers out ther you can hire. both major
> lies. imagine your typical winblows programmer who expects to be able
to
> reboot every 5 minutes to clear up his hung program venturing into the
> realtime embedded world. scary, ain't it?
>
> perl will run under some embedded/rtos systems such as qnx and i have
> heard of work in progress for vxworks.
>
> like win2k, wince is one of the most apt names redmond has ever
coined.
>
> i hope perl never is ported to wince because when it is, the
apocolypse
> will be upon us.
>
> i hope i do offend anyone who cares.
>
> uri
>
> --
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http://www.sysarch.com
> SYStems ARCHitecture, Software Engineering, Perl, Internet, UNIX
Consulting
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>

Uri and others...

While I can't say that I necessarily agree or disagree with your
feelings about WinCE, there are several unfortunate FACTS to consider:

1. it is a product of Microsoft, the 900 pound gorilla of the software
business (where does a 900 pound gorilla sleep -- any d**n place it
chooses)

2. if your numbers with repect to the AT&T deal are correct it MIGHT be
worth realizing that Microsoft was ABLE to pay that kind of money so
they MUST be doing SOMETHING correctly (notice I didn't say RIGHT) ...
I don't know about you but I don't have that kind of small change
sitting in the cookie jar.

3. Might doesn't necessrily make right, but it wins more often than it
loses and the winners get to write the history books

4. some of us have customers who want something (in this case handhelds
using Windows CE) and if we don't find a way to satisfy them they will
find someone who will.

5. Mozart, Rembrandt, and others WERE known to work for mere money to
feed the kids. My guess is if someone paid Rembrandt enough to decorate
a dingy alley he most likely would have said "earth tones OK with you?"

Once upon a time when the Big Blue was the dominant player in the game
they had a philosophy that 'a product didn't have to be the first, or
best, if it was readily available and well supported it would succeed'
they became number one with that plan ... I THINK Microsoft fits that
definition also.

It is unfortunately a very untidy world, but throwing rocks at Redmond
doesn't make it suddenly become sunshine and roses no matter how
satisfying it may feel...

John


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Date: Fri, 05 Nov 1999 16:19:48 GMT
From: John Saylor <john.saylor@cybertrust.gte.com>
Subject: Re: PERL in Windows CE?
Message-Id: <xki7ljwrjvf.fsf@dazzler.ndhm.gtegsc.com>

Hi

>>>>> "j" == johnsteele  <johnsteele@my-deja.com> writes:
 
 j> 5. Mozart, Rembrandt, and others WERE known to work for mere money
 j> to feed the kids. My guess is if someone paid Rembrandt enough to
 j> decorate a dingy alley he most likely would have said "earth tones
 j> OK with you?"

Well. Mozart [or "moe" to his friends] had no children and Rembrandt
had 2 kids that survived. He squandered most of his son's inheritance, 
and don't know much about what he did to help his daughter [but I
think not much].

Oh they both did work they wouldn't have otherwise just for the money
[the artist as hero ideal wasn't "invented" yet], but they pretty much
just pissed through the money on various hedonistic pursuits.

 j> It is unfortunately a very untidy world, but throwing rocks at
 j> Redmond doesn't make it suddenly become sunshine and roses no
 j> matter how satisfying it may feel...

I don't know why I bother, but those aren't rocks- those are little
pellets of truth! It's M$ that does much of the rock throwing [see DOJ 
lawsuit proceedings for examples].

And I don't think Uri likes sunshine and roses so much. I only met him
once but I think the indoors and fried foods are more to his liking
[of course, this is pure speculation on my part]. I'm sure he could
address this much better than I.

-- 
\js

FIRST, I'm covering you with OLIVE OIL and PRUNE WHIP!!


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Date: 05 Nov 1999 11:51:47 -0500
From: Uri Guttman <uri@sysarch.com>
Subject: Re: PERL in Windows CE?
Message-Id: <x7iu3g6fvg.fsf@home.sysarch.com>

>>>>> "j" == johnsteele  <johnsteele@my-deja.com> writes:

<snip of quote of my entire post>


  j> 1. it is a product of Microsoft, the 900 pound gorilla of the software
  j> business (where does a 900 pound gorilla sleep -- any d**n place it
  j> chooses)

so don't be sitting where it wants to sleep.

  j> 2. if your numbers with repect to the AT&T deal are correct it MIGHT be
  j> worth realizing that Microsoft was ABLE to pay that kind of money so
  j> they MUST be doing SOMETHING correctly (notice I didn't say RIGHT) ...
  j> I don't know about you but I don't have that kind of small change
  j> sitting in the cookie jar.

the stock buy is in the press. it evenb stated it was done to boost
sales of wince. the fact they they are subsidizing its sales is the key
point. something the justice dept should know. they are using their
monopoly power and money to try and squeeze out other rtos vendors. it
is not fair competition as none of the others have coffers they can use
to defend themselves.

  j> 3. Might doesn't necessrily make right, but it wins more often than it
  j> loses and the winners get to write the history books

does american revolution come to mind? if you want to be rewritten by
redmond, be my guest. i choose to fight. i have a backbone and will not
work with any redmondware.

  j> 4. some of us have customers who want something (in this case handhelds
  j> using Windows CE) and if we don't find a way to satisfy them they will
  j> find someone who will.

get new customers.

  j> Once upon a time when the Big Blue was the dominant player in the game
  j> they had a philosophy that 'a product didn't have to be the first, or
  j> best, if it was readily available and well supported it would succeed'
  j> they became number one with that plan ... I THINK Microsoft fits that
  j> definition also.

they fell and are a much more civilized company these days. hell, they
push linux and apache! in the 60's they were the gorilla and were sued
and lost. learn some computer history and read about the BUNCH vs. ibm
when the 360 was first announce 2 years before shipment. 

  j> It is unfortunately a very untidy world, but throwing rocks at Redmond
  j> doesn't make it suddenly become sunshine and roses no matter how
  j> satisfying it may feel...

it is more than satisfying. it is the right thing to do. 

uri


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SYStems ARCHitecture, Software Engineering, Perl, Internet, UNIX Consulting
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Date: 5 Nov 1999 17:38:48 GMT
From: h.m.brand@hccnet.nl (H. Merijn Brand)
Subject: Re: PERL in Windows CE?
Message-Id: <8E75B7183Merijn@192.0.1.19>

neil@pacifier.com (Neil) wrote in <38228606.0@news.pacifier.com>:

>Uri Guttman <uri@sysarch.com> wrote:
>
>> i hope i do offend anyone who cares.
>
>Someone at my company bought one of these wince machines and it is
>now a paper weight. Your commentary was hilarious! Porting Perl to
>wince would be like hanging a Rembrandt in a dingy alley.
>
>Neil

Not really if you think of microperl is likely to be born within
the next nine month (Ilya?)

Just for the fun, I'd install it on my Compaq Aero ;-)

--
H.Merijn Brand
using perl5.005.03 on HP-UX 10.20, HP-UX 11.00, AIX 4.2, AIX 4.3,
	   DEC OSF/1 4.0 and WinNT 4.0, often with perlTk 800.015
ftp://ftp.funet.fi:/pub/languages/perl/CPAN/authors/id/H/HM/HMBRAND/
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Date: Sat, 06 Nov 1999 00:30:32 GMT
From: johnsteele@my-deja.com
Subject: Re: PERL in Windows CE?
Message-Id: <7vvsr9$hl3$1@nnrp1.deja.com>

In article <x7iu3g6fvg.fsf@home.sysarch.com>,
  Uri Guttman <uri@sysarch.com> wrote:
> >>>>> "j" == johnsteele  <johnsteele@my-deja.com> writes:
>
> <snip of quote of my entire post>
>
>   j> 1. it is a product of Microsoft, the 900 pound gorilla of the
software
>   j> business (where does a 900 pound gorilla sleep -- any d**n place
it
>   j> chooses)
>
> so don't be sitting where it wants to sleep.
>
>   j> 2. if your numbers with repect to the AT&T deal are correct it
MIGHT be
>   j> worth realizing that Microsoft was ABLE to pay that kind of
money so
>   j> they MUST be doing SOMETHING correctly (notice I didn't say
RIGHT) ...
>   j> I don't know about you but I don't have that kind of small change
>   j> sitting in the cookie jar.
>
> the stock buy is in the press. it evenb stated it was done to boost
> sales of wince. the fact they they are subsidizing its sales is the
key
> point. something the justice dept should know. they are using their
> monopoly power and money to try and squeeze out other rtos vendors. it
> is not fair competition as none of the others have coffers they can
use
> to defend themselves.
>
>   j> 3. Might doesn't necessrily make right, but it wins more often
than it
>   j> loses and the winners get to write the history books
>
> does american revolution come to mind? if you want to be rewritten by
> redmond, be my guest. i choose to fight. i have a backbone and will
not
> work with any redmondware.
>
>   j> 4. some of us have customers who want something (in this case
handhelds
>   j> using Windows CE) and if we don't find a way to satisfy them
they will
>   j> find someone who will.
>
> get new customers.
>
>   j> Once upon a time when the Big Blue was the dominant player in
the game
>   j> they had a philosophy that 'a product didn't have to be the
first, or
>   j> best, if it was readily available and well supported it would
succeed'
>   j> they became number one with that plan ... I THINK Microsoft fits
that
>   j> definition also.
>
> they fell and are a much more civilized company these days. hell, they
> push linux and apache! in the 60's they were the gorilla and were sued
> and lost. learn some computer history and read about the BUNCH vs. ibm
> when the 360 was first announce 2 years before shipment.
>
>   j> It is unfortunately a very untidy world, but throwing rocks at
Redmond
>   j> doesn't make it suddenly become sunshine and roses no matter how
>   j> satisfying it may feel...
>
> it is more than satisfying. it is the right thing to do.
>
> uri
>
> --
> Uri Guttman  ---------  uri@sysarch.com  ----------
http://www.sysarch.com
> SYStems ARCHitecture, Software Engineering, Perl, Internet, UNIX
Consulting
> The Perl Books Page  -----------  http://www.sysarch.com/cgi-
bin/perl_books
> The Best Search Engine on the Net  ----------
http://www.northernlight.com
>

For crying out loud. Some people behave like this is some sort of
religious crusade. It's just business for God's sake. We're not talking
about taking away your life liberty or pursuit of happiness.

For computer history, I am unfortunate enough not to be 22 any longer --
- the very first system I worked on was a brand spanking new just
delivered 360/65.

As to "get new customers" --- that's close to one of the most assinine
things I've ever heard.

The reason I asked this question is because I LIKE PERL. My "idiot"
customer wants to use a specific type of hardware for his own good
g*dd**n reasons. He may not always be right, but by God he IS the
customer and is entitled to be wrong if he chooses.

This started out as a simple damn question --- did anyone know if PERL
will run on Win CE. I am not looking for the holy grail, or the meaning
of life. I'm just trying to solve a problem with what I consider to be
the best general purpose programming language in town.


End of pointless thread



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Date: 6 Nov 1999 01:01:30 GMT
From: ilya@math.ohio-state.edu (Ilya Zakharevich)
Subject: Re: PERL in Windows CE?
Message-Id: <7vvula$92d$1@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>

[A complimentary Cc of this posting was sent to H. Merijn Brand
<h.m.brand@hccnet.nl>],
who wrote in article <8E75B7183Merijn@192.0.1.19>:
> Not really if you think of microperl is likely to be born within
> the next nine month (Ilya?)

micro in microperl is for functionality (and amount of configuration
you need to compile it).  It has nothing to do with small-footprint
Perl.

Ilya


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Date: 05 Nov 1999 23:39:01 -0500
From: Uri Guttman <uri@sysarch.com>
Subject: Re: PERL in Windows CE?
Message-Id: <x7hfj044ka.fsf@home.sysarch.com>

>>>>> "j" == johnsteele  <johnsteele@my-deja.com> writes:

  >> <snip of quote of my entire post>

<again snip of my entire post>

at least learn something from this thread like how to quote
responsibly and logically.

  j> For crying out loud. Some people behave like this is some sort of
  j> religious crusade. It's just business for God's sake. We're not talking
  j> about taking away your life liberty or pursuit of happiness.

well, you would behave like this is redmond raped your companies ideas
and totally lied to you about a proposal they active solicited and you
put hard work into and they never even cared about afterwards. "we don't
buy paper projects" they said. then they asked us what could we do to
embedded NT to make it good for your project. this was from the
marketing managers of that product even after we told them that wince
was out of the running for the rtos.

  j> For computer history, I am unfortunate enough not to be 22 any
  j> longer -- - the very first system I worked on was a brand spanking
  j> new just delivered 360/65.

well, you didn't learn from ibm's history. BTW jackson's fact findings
came out today and redmond looks like they are severe trouble. :-)

  j> As to "get new customers" --- that's close to one of the most assinine
  j> things I've ever heard.

no. i refuse projects all the time whichhave to do with redmond. just
today i got an unsolicted lead for c++ on nt development from a
brainless headhunter. i asked him where in my resume (he claimed to have
read it) it says i have nt experience? in fact my web page states
categorically i won't do work on redmondware. i have no problems getting
clients on unix boxes. plenty of work out there. in fact i have more
leads than i can handle right now and am looking for help myself.

  j> The reason I asked this question is because I LIKE PERL. My "idiot"
  j> customer wants to use a specific type of hardware for his own good
  j> g*dd**n reasons. He may not always be right, but by God he IS the
  j> customer and is entitled to be wrong if he chooses.

just as you are capable of saying, i can't help you on that
platform. the customer is not always right and you don't have to take on
every request as an order.

  j> This started out as a simple damn question --- did anyone know if PERL
  j> will run on Win CE. I am not looking for the holy grail, or the meaning
  j> of life. I'm just trying to solve a problem with what I consider to be
  j> the best general purpose programming language in town.

it is a very good language. wince is a very lousy platform. the two
should not be mixed. 

uri

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SYStems ARCHitecture, Software Engineering, Perl, Internet, UNIX Consulting
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Date: Mon, 08 Nov 1999 13:32:33 GMT
From: x@x.x (Jan Andersen)
Subject: Re: PERL in Windows CE?
Message-Id: <3826cf72.27271173@news.inet.tele.dk>

On Fri, 05 Nov 1999 16:19:48 GMT, John Saylor
<john.saylor@cybertrust.gte.com> wrote:

>>>>>> "j" == johnsteele  <johnsteele@my-deja.com> writes:
> 
> j> 5. Mozart, Rembrandt, and others WERE known to work for mere money
> j> to feed the kids. My guess is if someone paid Rembrandt enough to
> j> decorate a dingy alley he most likely would have said "earth tones
> j> OK with you?"
>
>Well. Mozart [or "moe" to his friends] had no children and Rembrandt
>had 2 kids that survived. He squandered most of his son's inheritance, 
>and don't know much about what he did to help his daughter [but I
>think not much].

Way off topic!

No kids, huh?:

Raimund Leopold (1783)
Carl Thomas (1784-1858)
Johann Thomas Leopold (1786)
Theresia Constanzia Adelheid Friedericke Maria Anna (1787-1788)
Anna (1789)
Franz Xaver Wolfgang (1791-1844)

Jan



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Date: Mon, 08 Nov 1999 16:23:46 GMT
From: bart.lateur@skynet.be (Bart Lateur)
Subject: Re: PERL in Windows CE?
Message-Id: <3828f8f7.3509432@news.skynet.be>

johnsteele@my-deja.com wrote:

>This started out as a simple damn question --- did anyone know if PERL
>will run on Win CE. I am not looking for the holy grail, or the meaning
>of life. I'm just trying to solve a problem with what I consider to be
>the best general purpose programming language in town.
>
>End of pointless thread

Does Perl run on a HP pocket calculator?

-- 
	Bart.


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Date: Mon, 08 Nov 1999 17:37:53 GMT
From: "Peter L. Berghold" <peter@berghold.net>
Subject: Re: PERL in Windows CE?
Message-Id: <Pine.LNX.3.96.991108123650.31134A-100000@uboat.berghold.net>

> 
> Does Perl run on a HP pocket calculator?

How 'bout a Sinclair? Or on a C64?  :-)



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 NT renders ships useless...."           ICQ# 11455958




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Date: Sat, 06 Nov 1999 14:16:28 -0800
From: Laurent Itti <itti@klab.caltech.edu>
Subject: Re: perl JS interpreter? counting keywords?
Message-Id: <3824A8BC.B581AF61@klab.caltech.edu>

Nice!  I like the code!

it indeed was intentional not to initialize the counter, so that
entries with no matches don't show up later.

Thanks a lot Lee!

  -- laurent




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Date: Sat, 6 Nov 1999 17:18:40 -0000
From: "M Spencer" <lordy@tcp.co.uk>
Subject: Perl script required - Willing to pay
Message-Id: <mrZU3.1887$o23.812743@news.tcp.co.uk>

Hi,

I have an idea for a website which I wish to have up and running by end on
November - the site will need a script that roughly does the following

when user hits submit button it will add the results of the drop down form
boxes to a small database,sort the database according to a certain
criteria and then print the latest database, possibly storing the users name
etc.

however my knowledge
of perl/cgi is limited and thought someone might be willing to write the
cgi/perl script i require for some money.

If anyone is interested could you email me and perhaps we can come to a
agreeable fee.

Many thanks

Lordy

lordy@tcp.co.uk





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Date: 6 Nov 1999 18:44:19 -0000
From: Jonathan Stowe <gellyfish@gellyfish.com>
Subject: Re: Perl script required - Willing to pay
Message-Id: <801su3$bb1$1@gellyfish.btinternet.com>

On Sat, 6 Nov 1999 17:18:40 -0000 M Spencer wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I have an idea for a website which I wish to have up and running by end on
> November - the site will need a script that roughly does the following
> 
> 
<snip spec>
>
> however my knowledge
> of perl/cgi is limited and thought someone might be willing to write the
> cgi/perl script i require for some money.
> 
> If anyone is interested could you email me and perhaps we can come to a
> agreeable fee.
> 

If you bring a couple of crates of Moet and Chandon round I'll write it
for you while you wait...

/J\
-- 
Jonathan Stowe <jns@gellyfish.com>
<http://www.gellyfish.com>
Hastings: <URL:http://dmoz.org/Regional/UK/England/East_Sussex/Hastings>


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Date: Sat, 06 Nov 1999 19:37:21 GMT
From: michel.dalle@usa.net (Michel Dalle)
Subject: Re: Perl script required - Willing to pay
Message-Id: <80202n$l55$1@xenon.inbe.net>

In article <mrZU3.1887$o23.812743@news.tcp.co.uk>, "M Spencer" <lordy@tcp.co.uk> wrote:
>I have an idea for a website which I wish to have up and running by end on
>November - the site will need a script that roughly does the following
<snip>

Sounds like the guy Uri is complaining about might be your man. He's only
charging $200 a day for really amazing (?) code :-)

Seriously, if you want to do it yourself, we can give you a few pointers
(for free). Otherwise, you're definitely in the wrong newsgroup for job 
proposals...

Michel.


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Date: 06 Nov 1999 14:52:26 -0500
From: Uri Guttman <uri@sysarch.com>
Subject: Re: Perl script required - Willing to pay
Message-Id: <x74sez2y9x.fsf@home.sysarch.com>

>>>>> "MD" == Michel Dalle <michel.dalle@usa.net> writes:

  MD> In article <mrZU3.1887$o23.812743@news.tcp.co.uk>, "M Spencer" <lordy@tcp.co.uk> wrote:
  >> I have an idea for a website which I wish to have up and running by end on
  >> November - the site will need a script that roughly does the following
  MD> <snip>

  MD> Sounds like the guy Uri is complaining about might be your man. He's only
  MD> charging $200 a day for really amazing (?) code :-)

he is overcharging!! and i am not complaining, just sharing the laughter
and fun.

uri

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Date: 06 Nov 1999 14:53:31 -0500
From: Uri Guttman <uri@sysarch.com>
Subject: Re: Perl script required - Willing to pay
Message-Id: <x71za32y84.fsf@home.sysarch.com>

>>>>> "JS" == Jonathan Stowe <gellyfish@gellyfish.com> writes:

  JS> On Sat, 6 Nov 1999 17:18:40 -0000 M Spencer wrote:
  >> If anyone is interested could you email me and perhaps we can come to a
  >> agreeable fee.

  JS> If you bring a couple of crates of Moet and Chandon round I'll write it
  JS> for you while you wait...

why not ask for dom perignon (sp?) while you are at it. a couple of
cases for this project would make a tidy fee.

uri

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Date: Sun, 7 Nov 1999 13:57:52 -0000
From: "M Spencer" <lordy@tcp.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Perl script required - Willing to pay
Message-Id: <7BfV3.1893$o23.821777@news.tcp.co.uk>


Michel Dalle wrote in message <80202n$l55$1@xenon.inbe.net>...
>In article <mrZU3.1887$o23.812743@news.tcp.co.uk>, "M Spencer"
<lordy@tcp.co.uk> wrote:
>>I have an idea for a website which I wish to have up and running by end on
>>November - the site will need a script that roughly does the following
><snip>
>
>Sounds like the guy Uri is complaining about might be your man. He's only
>charging $200 a day for really amazing (?) code :-)
>
>Seriously, if you want to do it yourself, we can give you a few pointers
>(for free). Otherwise, you're definitely in the wrong newsgroup for job
>proposals...
>
>Michel.

Cheers

Which ng should i be in ?

Ta




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Date: Sun, 07 Nov 1999 10:58:01 -0500
From: Bill Voight <bvoight@erols.com>
Subject: Re: Perl script required - Willing to pay
Message-Id: <3825A189.D5A9A5F1@erols.com>

Lordy,

Judging by the responses you got , it looks like many in this newsgroup prove
the old saying "We all know what we are, it's just a question of price."

Anyway, if you give it a try, I'd bet there are many in the newsgroup who'd
look at your code and give you pointers.

BV

M Spencer wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I have an idea for a website which I wish to have up and running by end on
> November - the site will need a script that roughly does the following
>
> when user hits submit button it will add the results of the drop down form
> boxes to a small database,sort the database according to a certain
> criteria and then print the latest database, possibly storing the users name
> etc.
>
> however my knowledge
> of perl/cgi is limited and thought someone might be willing to write the
> cgi/perl script i require for some money.
>
> If anyone is interested could you email me and perhaps we can come to a
> agreeable fee.
>
> Many thanks
>
> Lordy
>
> lordy@tcp.co.uk



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Date: 7 Nov 1999 19:48:53 -0000
From: Jonathan Stowe <gellyfish@gellyfish.com>
Subject: Re: Perl script required - Willing to pay
Message-Id: <804l35$e06$1@gellyfish.btinternet.com>

On Sun, 07 Nov 1999 10:58:01 -0500 Bill Voight wrote:
> M Spencer wrote:
> 
>> when user hits submit button it will add the results of the drop down form
>> boxes to a small database,sort the database according to a certain
>> criteria and then print the latest database, possibly storing the users name
>> etc.
>>
> Judging by the responses you got , it looks like many in this newsgroup prove
> the old saying "We all know what we are, it's just a question of price."
> 

Well from the specification we got .... all it looks like is that he brings
round the booze and I agree with Uri that the Dom Perignon would be nice
to have - he can have it while he waits : simple really - Jonny codes for
Booze - I'll do anything for a crate of Moet.

/J\
-- 
Jonathan Stowe <jns@gellyfish.com>
<http://www.gellyfish.com>
Hastings: <URL:http://dmoz.org/Regional/UK/England/East_Sussex/Hastings>


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Date: Fri, 5 Nov 1999 10:40:31 -0800
From: Larry Rosler <lr@hpl.hp.com>
Subject: Re: Perl script to convert a date to unix time?
Message-Id: <MPG.128cc47963ce3e9a98a1be@nntp.hpl.hp.com>

In article <Pine.OSF.4.20.9911051047550.15235-100000@a5.ph.gla.ac.uk> on 
Fri, 5 Nov 1999 10:52:32 +0000, Alan J. Flavell 
<flavell@a5.ph.gla.ac.uk> says...

 ...

> After 31/12/00 I expect there will be other possible ambiguities ;-}

Heck, no.  After 31/12/00 comes 01/01/01.  No possible ambiguities 
there.  :-)

-- 
(Just Another Larry) Rosler
Hewlett-Packard Laboratories
http://www.hpl.hp.com/personal/Larry_Rosler/
lr@hpl.hp.com


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Date: Fri, 05 Nov 1999 14:13:08 -0800
From: David Cassell <cassell@mail.cor.epa.gov>
Subject: Re: Perl script to convert a date to unix time?
Message-Id: <38235674.93F7DDFE@mail.cor.epa.gov>

Alan J. Flavell wrote:
[snip]
> After 31/12/00 I expect there will be other possible ambiguities ;-}
> 
> Clue: there's an unambiguous ISO date format, for use in international
> transactions.  Is Usenet an international forum?

Ummm, based on this ng, I think it's an international donnybrook.

David
-- 
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Senior computing specialist
mathematical statistician


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Date: 6 Nov 1999 12:40:46 -0000
From: Jonathan Stowe <gellyfish@gellyfish.com>
Subject: Re: Perl script to convert a date to unix time?
Message-Id: <8017ke$ac3$1@gellyfish.btinternet.com>

On Fri, 05 Nov 1999 14:13:08 -0800 David Cassell wrote:
> Alan J. Flavell wrote:
> [snip]
>> After 31/12/00 I expect there will be other possible ambiguities ;-}
>> 
>> Clue: there's an unambiguous ISO date format, for use in international
>> transactions.  Is Usenet an international forum?
> 
> Ummm, based on this ng, I think it's an international donnybrook.
> 

Is that like an international donnyosmond but without the teeth ?

/J\
-- 
Jonathan Stowe <jns@gellyfish.com>
<http://www.gellyfish.com>
Hastings: <URL:http://dmoz.org/Regional/UK/England/East_Sussex/Hastings>


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Date: Mon, 08 Nov 1999 18:14:26 GMT
From: a002818t@bc.seflin.org (Tom)
Subject: perl talking to Mumps via sockets
Message-Id: <38280fd7.9085248@news.mindspring.com>


This is my first attempt at working with sockets so be gentle.  :)

I'm writing a perl client to communicate with a server written in
Mumps (DSM under VMS) via TCP/IP sockets.  I have the client and
server talking nicely ecept for the fact that I have to pause 1 second
between messages sent to perl from mumps.  Without the delay, to
communication quickly gets out of sync.  The records being sent back
are forth are variable length.   Any assistance would be greatly
appreciated. 


Here is the code for the perl client:

$iaddr = inet_aton('999.999.999.999') or die "no host";
$paddr = sockaddr_in(99999, $iaddr);

$proto = getprotobyname('tcp');
socket(SOCK, PF_INET, SOCK_STREAM, $proto) or die "socket: $!";
connect(SOCK, $paddr) or die "connect: $!";
send(SOCK, $outmsg,"") or die "Can't send";
@recs = ();
$done=0;
$cnt=0;
$ok=0;

while ($done eq 0) {
	recv(SOCK, $line, 200,"") or die "Can't recv";
	if ($line eq "**") {$done=1;}
	else {
		++$cnt;
		$recs[$cnt]=$line;
		if ($cnt eq 2) {$ok=1;}
		}
	}

close (SOCK) or die "close: $!";
 


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