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Perl-Users Digest Tue, 12 Oct 1999 Volume: 9 Number: 1050
Today's topics:
Re: CGI.pm background graphics <AgitatorsBand@yahoo.com>
debugging question <andreas@vierengel.de>
Dos commands in Perl??????????? krun@my-deja.com
Re: Dos commands in Perl??????????? <tom.kralidis@ccrs.nrcanDOTgc.ca>
Re: Dos commands in Perl??????????? (Brett W. McCoy)
Re: Dos commands in Perl??????????? <jeff@vpservices.com>
Re: Forcing Javascript to be on when a user uses a Perl <zs@cable.vol.at>
Re: HELP! Why don't cookies work correctly with PERL... <AgitatorsBand@yahoo.com>
Re: how to generate a hash name dynamically (Tad McClellan)
JPL <sp00fD@yahoo.com>
Keeping TEXTAREA intact? emlyn_a@my-deja.com
Re: Newbie: Combining split and shift on One Statement (M.J.T. Guy)
Re: Perl Interview Question: <dwozmak@rational.com>
Re: Perl lite <theglauber@my-deja.com>
Re: Perl lite <gellyfish@gellyfish.com>
Re: Perl lite <dan@tuatha.sidhe.org>
Re: Printing from an HTML button? <emschwar@rmi.net>
Re: system() and snmpwalk or other dos executables <gellyfish@gellyfish.com>
Re: tell() works incorrectly in windows <jseigh@bbnplanet.com>
Re: tell() works incorrectly in windows (M.J.T. Guy)
Re: tell() works incorrectly in windows <jseigh@bbnplanet.com>
Re: tmtowtdt? Getting the date (Henry Penninkilampi)
USENIX Annual Conference 2000, Call For Papers (Moun Chau)
Re: Why's 'mailx' complaining? <dan@tuatha.sidhe.org>
Re: Why's 'mailx' complaining? <flavell@mail.cern.ch>
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Date: Tue, 12 Oct 1999 16:13:22 GMT
From: Scratchie <AgitatorsBand@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: CGI.pm background graphics
Message-Id: <C6JM3.26$25.1039@news.shore.net>
Penn McClatchey <pmm@saf.com> wrote:
: I am trying to use a background graphic, not a color.
I tend to do something like
print qq|<BODY BACKGROUND="back.gif" .... >|;
but that's just me. :)
Actually, if I'm generating a page that's "elaborate" enough to include a
background image, I usually use a template file anyway....
--Art
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Date: Tue, 12 Oct 1999 19:38:27 +0200
From: Andreas Vierengel <andreas@vierengel.de>
Subject: debugging question
Message-Id: <728C2D77046644AC.16ABF5558028C5BC.4C357213766BFF6F@lp.airnews.net>
I have a programm which fork()'s
every time my child exit, Perl writes following msg to STDERR:
Attempt to free unreferenced scalar during global destruction.
How can I get rid of this ?
Probably links to information ?
--Andy
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Date: Tue, 12 Oct 1999 15:59:37 GMT
From: krun@my-deja.com
Subject: Dos commands in Perl???????????
Message-Id: <7tvlsv$um0$1@nnrp1.deja.com>
How would one use dos commands such as dir and cd in perl? Also if
there is a way what kind of information is returned when a dir is run?
Does it return a true(1) or false(0) depending on wether it found
path? If there isn't command lines for Dos, how would one go about
searching a directory for a specific path? Thank you for your help and
response.
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Date: Tue, 12 Oct 1999 12:18:38 -0400
From: Tom Kralidis <tom.kralidis@ccrs.nrcanDOTgc.ca>
Subject: Re: Dos commands in Perl???????????
Message-Id: <38035F5E.D64ACAB3@ccrs.nrcanDOTgc.ca>
krun@my-deja.com wrote:
>
> How would one use dos commands such as dir and cd in perl? Also if
> there is a way what kind of information is returned when a dir is run?
> Does it return a true(1) or false(0) depending on wether it found
> path? If there isn't command lines for Dos, how would one go about
> searching a directory for a specific path? Thank you for your help and
> response.
>
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> Before you buy.
See perlfunc and the system command.
HTH
..Tom
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Date: Tue, 12 Oct 1999 16:48:43 GMT
From: bmccoy@news.i95.net (Brett W. McCoy)
Subject: Re: Dos commands in Perl???????????
Message-Id: <slrn806pr7.qo8.bmccoy@moebius.foiservices.com>
Also Sprach krun@my-deja.com <krun@my-deja.com>:
>How would one use dos commands such as dir and cd in perl? Also if
>there is a way what kind of information is returned when a dir is run?
>Does it return a true(1) or false(0) depending on wether it found
>path? If there isn't command lines for Dos, how would one go about
>searching a directory for a specific path? Thank you for your help and
>response.
I'd look into the facilities Perl provides for this, such as the DirHandle
module. There's a lot Perl can do for you without having to resort to
opening up a command shell. This goes for both Unix and DOS.
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Date: 12 Oct 1999 16:46:39 GMT
From: Jeff Zucker <jeff@vpservices.com>
Subject: Re: Dos commands in Perl???????????
Message-Id: <380365A5.8E581EBE@vpservices.com>
krun@my-deja.com wrote:
>
> How would one use dos commands such as dir and cd in perl? Also if
> there is a way what kind of information is returned when a dir is run?
> Does it return a true(1) or false(0) depending on wether it found
> path? If there isn't command lines for Dos, how would one go about
> searching a directory for a specific path?
Have you bothered to read *any* of the documentatin for Perl? Look up
these things to find answers to your questions: system, qx//,
backticks, opendir, readdir, chdir. You might also want to investigate
the File::Find module.
--
Jeff
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Date: Tue, 12 Oct 1999 18:12:30 +0200
From: "Stefan Zwischenbrugger" <zs@cable.vol.at>
Subject: Re: Forcing Javascript to be on when a user uses a Perl script
Message-Id: <7tvmi5$lsa$1@pollux.ip-plus.net>
e.g.:
<HTML>
<HEAD>
<SCRIPT>
window.top.location.href = 'perl_with_javascript.pl';
</SCRIPT>
</HEAD>
<BODY>
You have disabled JavaScript, enable it.
</BODY>
</HTML>
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Date: Tue, 12 Oct 1999 16:06:45 GMT
From: Scratchie <AgitatorsBand@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: HELP! Why don't cookies work correctly with PERL.........
Message-Id: <p0JM3.24$25.1039@news.shore.net>
Try using CGI.pm. Makes cookies pretty easy.
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Date: Tue, 12 Oct 1999 07:28:55 -0400
From: tadmc@metronet.com (Tad McClellan)
Subject: Re: how to generate a hash name dynamically
Message-Id: <n16vt7.07v.ln@magna.metronet.com>
cheecheng@my-deja.com wrote:
: I have a question on how to generate a hash name
: dynamically.
What you are asking for is documented in the "Symbolic references"
section in perlref.pod.
But you really really really *don't* want to do what you think
you want to do:
http://www.plover.com/~mjd/perl/varvarname.html
So, I am going to ignore your question, and instead show you how
to get your job done without taking your chances by mucking
up namespaces.
: For example, I have an array
: @a = (1,2,3) and I need to make a hash out of it.
^^^^^^^^^
No you don't.
You _want_ to. (but you shouldn't want to...)
Instead, you should use a LoH (List of Hashes) data structure.
See perlref.pod and perldsc.pod to learn about how data
structures can make your programs more robust, easier to
understand and easier to maintain.
: I would like to have the following:
: $hashname1{2}=3
would something like this do? $hashname1[1]{2}=3
-----------------------
#!/usr/bin/perl -w
use strict;
my @a = (1,2,3);
my @LoH;
$LoH[$a[0]] = { $a[1] => $a[2] }; # $LoH[1] gets a reference to an anon hash
foreach ( keys %{$LoH[1]} ) {
print "$_ ==> $LoH[1]{$_}\n";
}
-----------------------
: Any help on how to do this would be greatly
: appreciated.
The best help is to *not* find out how to do Symbolic References.
They are seldom needed with a modern Perl.
--
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tadmc@metronet.com Perl programming
Fort Worth, Texas
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Date: Tue, 12 Oct 1999 17:11:58 GMT
From: sp00fD <sp00fD@yahoo.com>
Subject: JPL
Message-Id: <7tvq4f$28f$1@nnrp1.deja.com>
Anyone know where I can get info on JPL? An online HOW-TO or FAQ or
something would do...
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Date: Tue, 12 Oct 1999 16:12:21 GMT
From: emlyn_a@my-deja.com
Subject: Keeping TEXTAREA intact?
Message-Id: <7tvmkl$v92$1@nnrp1.deja.com>
I've read some questions about replacing \n with <br> tags for paragraph
breaks in a form textarea, but what if you simply want the textarea to
be written to a field as one long line (with or without <br>s)?
Does there need to be a special "wrap" tag included in the html
(virtual,physical,off) before it's sent to the cgi? I've tried all
kinds of approaches (using MacPerl), but for every linebreak, it
inserts an unrecognizable square character - very strange.
Hope there are some ideas out there...
E.
emlyn1@home.com
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Date: 12 Oct 1999 16:27:20 GMT
From: mjtg@cus.cam.ac.uk (M.J.T. Guy)
Subject: Re: Newbie: Combining split and shift on One Statement
Message-Id: <7tvnh8$i24$1@pegasus.csx.cam.ac.uk>
Larry Rosler <lr@hpl.hp.com> wrote:
>
>Isn't the real issue why it is still a list value and not an array value
>after assignment to an array:
>
> shift(@array = split)
>
>Why does this not simply shift @array? Is this a DWIM failure?
The problem is that the result of a list assignment (in list context)
is a list, not an array. And I suspect trying to change that would
cause a lot of rather fundamental things to unravel.
And in any case, list assignment as an lvalue seems to be a bit murky.
What would you expect this to do?
perl -wle '(@a = (1,2,3)) = (4,5);print @a'
It gives me
Use of uninitialized value at -e line 1.
45
Bug or feature?
Mike Guy
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Date: Tue, 12 Oct 1999 12:18:55 -0400
From: David Wozmak <dwozmak@rational.com>
Subject: Re: Perl Interview Question:
Message-Id: <38035F6F.E16EE1B8@rational.com>
"Randal L. Schwartz" wrote:
>
> >>>>> "Samay" == Samay <samay1NOsaSPAM@hotmail.com.invalid> writes:
>
> Samay> Simple See if you can test yourself:
>
> Anyone who reads Chapter 3 of the Llama or stays for the first three
> hours of my training class knows the answer.
>
> If that's an interview question, I wouldn't want to work there.
>
> Randal L. Schwartz
Well, Randal...there could be many, many types of programmer
needed...from entry-level to senior advanced. Writing a test that
progressed from simple to esoteric questions would be a very good idea,
because it would give the astute reviewer a far more accurate gauge of
exactly where in the spectrum the applicant stood.
Sometimes people will smoke the advanced questions, and miss the easy
ones. Strange but true.
I have been in a position to have to write Perl tests for incoming
applicants, and I found it much more enlightening to review the results
of progressively written tests than the results of strictly
estoteric-hard tests.
You may find this amazing, but most people learn Perl by writing it,
rather than progressing through a formal training program. Thus, the
gaps in their code knowledge more often than not directly relate to gaps
in their experience. (contrast this to a Comp.Sci. graduate who studied
C...who more often than not can answer hard questions about C, but have
not actually USED it to do anything useful...)
just my .02 worth...
dwoz
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Date: Tue, 12 Oct 1999 15:59:05 GMT
From: The Glauber <theglauber@my-deja.com>
Subject: Re: Perl lite
Message-Id: <7tvlru$ulm$1@nnrp1.deja.com>
In article <PTHM3.459$IZ5.14023@news.rdc1.ct.home.com>,
Dan Sugalski <dan@tuatha.sidhe.org> wrote:
[...]
> You only need the libperl.a if you plan on building any static
modules. It
> should be safe to toss if you're going all-dynamic. (Which you
probably
> are)
Unless your Perl is itself dynamically linked (easy to see, if the Perl
binary is a couple hundred KB instead of a Meg or so, it is; or rename
libperl.a and see if Perl runs without it, before you delete).
g
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Date: 12 Oct 1999 17:19:37 +0100
From: Jonathan Stowe <gellyfish@gellyfish.com>
Subject: Re: Perl lite
Message-Id: <38035f99_1@newsread3.dircon.co.uk>
The Glauber <theglauber@my-deja.com> wrote:
> In article <PTHM3.459$IZ5.14023@news.rdc1.ct.home.com>,
> Dan Sugalski <dan@tuatha.sidhe.org> wrote:
> [...]
>> You only need the libperl.a if you plan on building any static
> modules. It
>> should be safe to toss if you're going all-dynamic. (Which you
> probably
>> are)
>
>
> Unless your Perl is itself dynamically linked (easy to see, if the Perl
> binary is a couple hundred KB instead of a Meg or so, it is; or rename
> libperl.a and see if Perl runs without it, before you delete).
>
On most systems the dynamix libraries will have a different extension
though.
/j\
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Date: Tue, 12 Oct 1999 18:30:01 GMT
From: Dan Sugalski <dan@tuatha.sidhe.org>
Subject: Re: Perl lite
Message-Id: <J6LM3.472$IZ5.14167@news.rdc1.ct.home.com>
The Glauber <theglauber@my-deja.com> wrote:
> In article <PTHM3.459$IZ5.14023@news.rdc1.ct.home.com>,
> Dan Sugalski <dan@tuatha.sidhe.org> wrote:
> [...]
>> You only need the libperl.a if you plan on building any static
> modules. It
>> should be safe to toss if you're going all-dynamic. (Which you
> probably
>> are)
> Unless your Perl is itself dynamically linked (easy to see, if the Perl
> binary is a couple hundred KB instead of a Meg or so, it is; or rename
> libperl.a and see if Perl runs without it, before you delete).
Nope. You get a libperl.so if you link against a shared perl library.
(Well, at least on Unix boxen) Nuking that Would Be Bad. :)
And shouldn't your perl be a lot smaller than a couple hundred K if
you're linking shared? I build static on my linux boxes since
Conventional Wisdom says shared perls are a lot slower than static
ones (my knowledge of Unix shared library performance metrics
is pretty much nonexistant, but Configure says so, and who am I
to doubt?) but the perl executable on my VMS box (which is linked
shared, as there's no performance penalty) is 3k. (Yep, three.
PERLSHR.EXE, the shared lib, is a touch over a meg)
Dan
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Date: 12 Oct 1999 11:04:52 -0600
From: Eric The Read <emschwar@rmi.net>
Subject: Re: Printing from an HTML button?
Message-Id: <xkfn1to7bnv.fsf@valdemar.col.hp.com>
Philippe Mathis <philippe@mathis.net> writes:
> You can write in Java
> <form method="post">
> <p><input name="Taste" onclick="javascript:self.print();" type="button"
> value="Imprimer cette page"></p></form>
That's not Java. Nor is it Perl. Keep it to the ciwa* gropus, eh?
-=Eric
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business of hate, debauchery, and self-annihilation."
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Date: 12 Oct 1999 17:04:04 +0100
From: Jonathan Stowe <gellyfish@gellyfish.com>
Subject: Re: system() and snmpwalk or other dos executables
Message-Id: <38035bf4_1@newsread3.dircon.co.uk>
r <sr@asd.com> wrote:
> Hi
>
> I have a number of DOS based executables that will display information on
> the screen.
> They can be piped to a file in DOS ok.
>
> What I want to do is to use PERL to do similar things, and more.
>
> the main dos executable is snmpwalk.exe and there are 2 variable
> arguments that follow the command.
>
> so the Dos line would be;
> snmpwalk.exe $host1 $snmpvar
>
> I would like to pipe to a file but am unsure as to how to do this.
>
> I have tried the following but, whilst it goes to the screen, it does not
> go to the file.
>
> print "Enter host: ";
> chomp($host1=<STDIN>);
> print "Enter SNMP variable: ";
> $snmpvar=<STDIN>;
> $info="snmpwalk $host1 $snmpvar > c:\info.txt";
> system($info);
>
Perhaps:
chomp(@stuff = `snmpwalk $host1 $snmpvar`);
for instance will get each line of the output into the array @stuff.
You might want to read the perlipc manpage:
perldoc perlipc
Oh BTW there is a module Net::SNMP that does this stuff directly with Perl.
/J\
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Date: Tue, 12 Oct 1999 16:45:51 GMT
From: Joe Seigh <jseigh@bbnplanet.com>
Subject: Re: tell() works incorrectly in windows
Message-Id: <3803654C.F5CFB4CC@bbnplanet.com>
M.J.T. Guy wrote:
>
> Joe Seigh <jseigh@bbnplanet.com> wrote:
> >Why does tell() try to guess the file offset based on the
> >length of prior reads plus 2 for the CR+NL for each line?
>
> tell() doesn't do anything of the sort. It just reports the current
> byte offset as held by stdio.
>
> Mike Guy
If you have a the following unix file (NL's only) on a windows system, ie.
line1\n
line2\n
line3\n
tell() reports after open() and every line read
0, 4, 11, 18
except for the first one which I can't explain, that's one more
than the actual length of the line so obviously somebody is making
it up.
With binmode on you get
0, 6, 12, 18
which is what you are supposed to get according to my interpretation
of current byte offset.
Joe Seigh
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Date: 12 Oct 1999 17:20:43 GMT
From: mjtg@cus.cam.ac.uk (M.J.T. Guy)
Subject: Re: tell() works incorrectly in windows
Message-Id: <7tvqlb$kkm$1@pegasus.csx.cam.ac.uk>
Joe Seigh <jseigh@bbnplanet.com> wrote:
>
>If you have a the following unix file (NL's only) on a windows system, ie.
>
>line1\n
>line2\n
>line3\n
>
>tell() reports after open() and every line read
>
>0, 4, 11, 18
Eeek! That looks like your implementation of tell() is broken.
But I hadn't thought of the case of non-native files. Perhaps the
implementor of tell() didn't either.
OTOH, the only property required of the values from tell() is that if you
subsequently feed them to seek(), you end up in the right place.
If you feed those values back into seek(), do you get the correct
behaviour? I.e. does the following print "line2\n" ?
open FH, "unix/file/as/above" or die "open: $!\n";
seek FH, 0, 4;
print scalar <FH>;
Mike Guy
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Date: Tue, 12 Oct 1999 17:48:06 GMT
From: Joe Seigh <jseigh@bbnplanet.com>
Subject: Re: tell() works incorrectly in windows
Message-Id: <380373E3.6087F9@bbnplanet.com>
M.J.T. Guy wrote:
>
> Joe Seigh <jseigh@bbnplanet.com> wrote:
> >
> >If you have a the following unix file (NL's only) on a windows system, ie.
> >
> >line1\n
> >line2\n
> >line3\n
> >
> >tell() reports after open() and every line read
> >
> >0, 4, 11, 18
>
> Eeek! That looks like your implementation of tell() is broken.
> But I hadn't thought of the case of non-native files. Perhaps the
> implementor of tell() didn't either.
>
> OTOH, the only property required of the values from tell() is that if you
> subsequently feed them to seek(), you end up in the right place.
>
> If you feed those values back into seek(), do you get the correct
> behaviour? I.e. does the following print "line2\n" ?
>
> open FH, "unix/file/as/above" or die "open: $!\n";
> seek FH, 0, 4;
> print scalar <FH>;
>
Nope, seek is broke in that sense. It puts you a the offset tell() returned,
not where you would have read the same data that the subsequent read after tell
would have returned.
And, if I remember correctly, seek is a little bit twitchy on where you try to
position it. I think it didn't like being set where there was a CR and would bump
up a character or two. I had to resort to a little bit of hackery to get it
to work in the look.pl rewrite. The orginal look.pl, after doing a file system's
buffer's worth of reads, tell() wasn't even in the right neighborhood. No amount
of hackery was going to get around that.
Joe Seigh
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Date: Wed, 13 Oct 1999 01:55:44 +0930
From: spamfree@metropolis.net.au (Henry Penninkilampi)
Subject: Re: tmtowtdt? Getting the date
Message-Id: <spamfree-1310990155440001@d7.metropolis.net.au>
In article <7tuusb$e23$1@nnrp1.deja.com>, schablone@my-deja.com wrote:
> > I'd tend to
> > write this as
> >
> > my ($day, $month, $year) = (localtime)[3, 4, 5];
> >
> > $month++;
> > $year += 1900;
> >
> > my $Today = sprintf "$year.%02d.%02d", $month, $day;
> >
> > This will yield e.g. '1999.07.04' for the 4th of July this year.
> >
> > : Are there other ways of doing this? Preferably shorter and/or more
> > : cryptic)?
> >
> > use POSIX;
> > my $Today = strftime('%Y.%m.%d', localtime);
I'll (belatedly) add my preferred method:
($YYYY,$MM,$DD) = (localtime)[5,4,3];
$dateStamp = sprintf "%04d%02d%02d",$YYYY+1900,++$MM,$DD;
Henry.
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Date: Tue, 12 Oct 1999 17:33:01 GMT
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Subject: USENIX Annual Conference 2000, Call For Papers
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Date: Tue, 12 Oct 1999 18:24:12 GMT
From: Dan Sugalski <dan@tuatha.sidhe.org>
Subject: Re: Why's 'mailx' complaining?
Message-Id: <g1LM3.471$IZ5.14167@news.rdc1.ct.home.com>
MTW <suaai@csv.warwick.ac.uk> wrote:
> On Mon, 11 Oct 1999, Alan J. Flavell wrote:
>> packages (go to an appropriate group to investigate what they are), and
>> practice your Perl skills on something else. Don't take this as general
>> discouragement, just as honest practical advice for this specific (and
>> relatively high-risk if you get it wrong) situation.
> No budget! I'm running this for a small theatrical society, with 0 money
> to spare :(
Well, Majordomo's free, and perl to boot...
Dan
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Date: Tue, 12 Oct 1999 18:21:51 +0200
From: "Alan J. Flavell" <flavell@mail.cern.ch>
Subject: Re: Why's 'mailx' complaining?
Message-Id: <Pine.HPP.3.95a.991012181354.29398A-100000@hpplus01.cern.ch>
On Tue, 12 Oct 1999, MTW wrote:
> > If you take my advice, look into one of the respected mail distributor
> > packages (go to an appropriate group to investigate what they are),
> No budget!
Oh, I hadn't envisaged spending money!
If the list is just a small one then maybe a procmail configuration,
administered "by hand" would meet your needs. For large lists or
automatic subscription management you could consider majordomo. But I'm
sure there are plenty of other options, hence I recommended you to go to
an appropriate group (I think comp.mail.misc would be a reasonable
start) for the specifics.
(have you asked your campus folks whether they run a mail list server
that they could let you use?)
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