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Date: Wed, 7 Jul 1999 00:07:07 -0700 (PDT)
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Perl-Users Digest Wed, 7 Jul 1999 Volume: 9 Number: 38
Today's topics:
New posters to comp.lang.perl.misc <gbacon@cs.uah.edu>
NewBie - how to open a file? <anuragved@vsnl.com>
Re: NewBie - how to open a file? (elephant)
Re: NewBie - how to open a file? (Bart Lateur)
Re: NewBie - how to open a file? <daniel.vesma@thewebtree.com>
Re: NewBie - how to open a file? (Abigail)
Re: NewBie - how to open a file? <uri@sysarch.com>
Re: NewBie - how to open a file? (Michel Dalle)
Re: NewBie - how to open a file? (Abigail)
Re: NewBie - how to open a file? <rick.delaney@home.com>
Re: NewBie - how to open a file? (Alastair)
Re: newbie help... should be simple <JFedor@datacom-css.com>
Re: Newbie questions <vinger@mail.ford.com>
Re: Newbie?: Is FreeBSD OK with Perl & Apache? (will)
newbies and usenet [was: DB tutorials] (elephant)
nmake questions - Win32 <bbgraph@mail2.ee.net>
Re: nmake questions - Win32 <swiftkid@bigfoot.com>
NNTP and binaries <pvorishatesspam@earthlink.net>
Re: NNTP and binaries <swiftkid@bigfoot.com>
Digest Administrivia (Last modified: 1 Jul 99) (Perl-Users-Digest Admin)
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Date: 5 Jul 1999 15:40:44 GMT
From: Greg Bacon <gbacon@cs.uah.edu>
Subject: New posters to comp.lang.perl.misc
Message-Id: <7lqjls$2e8$2@info2.uah.edu>
Following is a summary of articles from new posters spanning a 7 day
period, beginning at 28 Jun 1999 15:36:16 GMT and ending at
05 Jul 1999 07:02:04 GMT.
Notes
=====
- A line in the body of a post is considered to be original if it
does *not* match the regular expression /^\s{0,3}(?:>|:|\S+>|\+\+)/.
- All text after the last cut line (/^-- $/) in the body is
considered to be the author's signature.
- The scanner prefers the Reply-To: header over the From: header
in determining the "real" email address and name.
- Original Content Rating (OCR) is the ratio of the original content
volume to the total body volume.
- Find the News-Scan distribution on the CPAN!
<URL:http://www.perl.com/CPAN/modules/by-module/News/>
- Please send all comments to Greg Bacon <gbacon@cs.uah.edu>.
- Copyright (c) 1999 Greg Bacon.
Verbatim copying and redistribution is permitted without royalty;
alteration is not permitted. Redistribution and/or use for any
commercial purpose is prohibited.
Totals
======
Posters: 307 (52.4% of all posters)
Articles: 540 (28.6% of all articles)
Volume generated: 856.4 kb (25.8% of total volume)
- headers: 396.7 kb (8,136 lines)
- bodies: 447.3 kb (15,193 lines)
- original: 320.0 kb (11,397 lines)
- signatures: 11.8 kb (380 lines)
Original Content Rating: 0.715
Averages
========
Posts per poster: 1.8
median: 1 post
mode: 1 post - 212 posters
s: 2.1 posts
Message size: 1623.9 bytes
- header: 752.3 bytes (15.1 lines)
- body: 848.2 bytes (28.1 lines)
- original: 606.8 bytes (21.1 lines)
- signature: 22.4 bytes (0.7 lines)
Top 10 Posters by Number of Posts
=================================
(kb) (kb) (kb) (kb)
Posts Volume ( hdr/ body/ orig) Address
----- -------------------------- -------
20 31.6 ( 15.7/ 15.0/ 10.1) e-lephant@b-igpond.com (elephant)
14 21.2 ( 10.5/ 10.3/ 5.5) Jordan Hiller <hiller@email.com>
11 16.2 ( 8.4/ 7.8/ 3.8) backwards.saerdna@srm.hc (Andreas Fehr)
10 15.0 ( 7.7/ 7.3/ 3.9) jobosw@unx.sas.com
10 16.9 ( 7.0/ 9.9/ 5.3) kloomis@it-resourcesNOSPAM.com
9 16.2 ( 7.5/ 8.7/ 5.2) "Dodger" <dodger@dodger.org>
7 11.5 ( 4.0/ 7.5/ 6.6) edmundsMUNGED@pacifierMUNGED.com (doug edmunds)
6 7.5 ( 4.4/ 2.4/ 1.4) elaine ashton <elaine@wustl.edu>
6 10.6 ( 4.3/ 6.3/ 3.3) Steven Smolinski <sjs@yorku.ca>
6 9.6 ( 4.5/ 5.1/ 2.9) pop <ngaccess@millions.net>
These posters accounted for 5.2% of all articles.
Top 10 Posters by Volume
========================
(kb) (kb) (kb) (kb)
Volume ( hdr/ body/ orig) Posts Address
-------------------------- ----- -------
31.6 ( 15.7/ 15.0/ 10.1) 20 e-lephant@b-igpond.com (elephant)
21.2 ( 10.5/ 10.3/ 5.5) 14 Jordan Hiller <hiller@email.com>
16.9 ( 7.0/ 9.9/ 5.3) 10 kloomis@it-resourcesNOSPAM.com
16.2 ( 7.5/ 8.7/ 5.2) 9 "Dodger" <dodger@dodger.org>
16.2 ( 8.4/ 7.8/ 3.8) 11 backwards.saerdna@srm.hc (Andreas Fehr)
15.0 ( 7.7/ 7.3/ 3.9) 10 jobosw@unx.sas.com
12.4 ( 1.1/ 11.3/ 10.4) 2 "John Curry" <kuzzero@nconnect.net>
11.5 ( 4.0/ 7.5/ 6.6) 7 edmundsMUNGED@pacifierMUNGED.com (doug edmunds)
11.5 ( 4.2/ 7.3/ 2.6) 5 Robert de Geus <robert@corpus.nl>
10.6 ( 4.3/ 6.3/ 3.3) 6 Steven Smolinski <sjs@yorku.ca>
These posters accounted for 4.9% of the total volume.
Top 10 Posters by OCR (minimum of three posts)
==============================================
(kb) (kb)
OCR orig / body Posts Address
----- -------------- ----- -------
1.000 ( 2.0 / 2.0) 3 CapWalker <jamescwalker@csi.com>
1.000 ( 2.9 / 2.9) 3 fulko@wtm.tudelft.nl
1.000 ( 1.6 / 1.6) 3 h0444zkf@rz.hu-berlin.de
0.991 ( 2.7 / 2.8) 3 David Thornton <dt@davidthornton.com>
0.976 ( 1.0 / 1.0) 3 rt_daemon@my-deja.com
0.966 ( 2.1 / 2.2) 3 scott_mark@my-deja.com
0.909 ( 5.2 / 5.7) 5 "Cameron Graham" <cameron_graham@clear.net.nz>
0.891 ( 3.2 / 3.6) 3 Jamie Zawinski <jwz@jwz.org>
0.874 ( 6.6 / 7.5) 7 edmundsMUNGED@pacifierMUNGED.com (doug edmunds)
0.846 ( 1.8 / 2.1) 3 harmanie@aol.com (Harmanie)
Bottom 10 Posters by OCR (minimum of three posts)
=================================================
(kb) (kb)
OCR orig / body Posts Address
----- -------------- ----- -------
0.483 ( 1.7 / 3.6) 4 Kenneth Massey <kmassey@mratings.com>
0.473 ( 1.6 / 3.4) 3 jdc@johnc.connectionsusa.com (John Cochran)
0.436 ( 1.3 / 3.0) 4 e_broyles2@my-deja.com
0.414 ( 0.9 / 2.1) 4 Peter Suschlik <splattael@gmx.net>
0.359 ( 1.0 / 2.9) 5 redmondm@yahoo.com ()
0.358 ( 2.6 / 7.3) 5 Robert de Geus <robert@corpus.nl>
0.351 ( 0.5 / 1.3) 3 jaimedp@pacbell.net
0.324 ( 1.2 / 3.6) 5 td90537@hotmail.com
0.320 ( 0.9 / 2.8) 3 Slav Inger <vinger@mail.ford.com>
0.294 ( 1.3 / 4.3) 3 girish deodhar <calciii@my-deja.com>
43 posters (14%) had at least three posts.
Top 10 Crossposters
===================
Articles Address
-------- -------
4 e-lephant@b-igpond.com (elephant)
4 johnpc@xs4all.net
3 thomasgd@omc.bt.co.uk (Greg Thomas)
3 Loki <joeh@adm.com>
2 "Alex" <alex@exbook.com>
2 "II D eXTREME" <extreme@chello.nl>
2 manitee@my-deja.com
2 dougd@shieldsbag.com
2 "Michael Burrows" <michael.burrows@lineone.net>
2 Otis Gospodnetic <otis@my-deja.com>
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Date: Mon, 5 Jul 1999 23:29:25 +0530
From: "Anurag Ved" <anuragved@vsnl.com>
Subject: NewBie - how to open a file?
Message-Id: <7ls1b4$ibd$1@news.vsnl.net.in>
Hi
I started learning Perl just today. Since I already know a bit of C I
decided to create my own version of the game called Hangman. The problem is
that I still don't know how to open a file in perl. Can anyone help?
Please!!!!
- Anurag
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Date: Tue, 6 Jul 1999 05:00:52 +1000
From: e-lephant@b-igpond.com (elephant)
Subject: Re: NewBie - how to open a file?
Message-Id: <MPG.11ebabef5c5c2cca989af7@news-server>
Anurag Ved writes ..
>I started learning Perl just today. Since I already know a bit of C I
>decided to create my own version of the game called Hangman. The problem is
>that I still don't know how to open a file in perl. Can anyone help?
seeing as you obviously can't read - and have no speach synthesis device
- I'm not sure what use you thought the usenet would be to you
groan .. RTFM .. believe it or not - how to open files is in there
somewhere .. assuming that you've installed perl on your Windoze machine
there - check out the directory that you installed perl in for a file
called html\index.html .. open it and begin reading
if you're using perl on a UNIX machine then man perl will be a good
starting place .. man perlfunc if you're really lazy
--
jason - remove all hyphens for email reply -
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Date: Mon, 05 Jul 1999 19:26:39 GMT
From: bart.lateur@skynet.be (Bart Lateur)
Subject: Re: NewBie - how to open a file?
Message-Id: <3783058f.1386471@news.skynet.be>
Anurag Ved wrote:
>I started learning Perl just today. Since I already know a bit of C I
>decided to create my own version of the game called Hangman. The problem is
>that I still don't know how to open a file in perl. Can anyone help?
The problem seems to be that you don't know how to peruse the docs...
Since you're using MS Outlook, I gather that you have the Activestate
Perl port? Then open the file "perlfunc.html", and search for the entry
for "open". That seems logical enough to me. On other platforms, do a
"perlfunc -f open" on the command line. (On a Mac, type "open," in a
code window, put the cursor on it, and press command-H)
Oh, BTW, there are online demoes for the Hangman game available. See the
website for mod_perl: <http://www.modperl.com/hangman.html>. Sorry to
spoil the fun!
Bart.
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Date: Mon, 5 Jul 1999 20:19:46 +0100
From: "Daniel Vesma" <daniel.vesma@thewebtree.com>
Subject: Re: NewBie - how to open a file?
Message-Id: <7lr0vf$q7p$1@gxsn.com>
>I started learning Perl just today. Since I already know a bit of C I
>decided to create my own version of the game called Hangman. The problem is
>that I still don't know how to open a file in perl. Can anyone help?
>Please!!!!
open(Handle, "file.txt");
while(<Handle>)
{
print $_;
}
easy.
Daniel Vesma
http://www.thewebtree.com
http://www.thewebtree.com/daniel-vesma
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Date: 5 Jul 1999 15:54:24 -0500
From: abigail@delanet.com (Abigail)
Subject: Re: NewBie - how to open a file?
Message-Id: <slrn7o26rd.h6v.abigail@alexandra.delanet.com>
Anurag Ved (anuragved@vsnl.com) wrote on MMCXXXIV September MCMXCIII in
<URL:news:7ls1b4$ibd$1@news.vsnl.net.in>:
..
.. I started learning Perl just today. Since I already know a bit of C I
.. decided to create my own version of the game called Hangman. The problem is
.. that I still don't know how to open a file in perl. Can anyone help?
Noone knows how to open a file in Perl. Noone here ever reads the manual.
Abigail
--
perl -e '$_ = q *4a75737420616e6f74686572205065726c204861636b65720a*;
for ($*=******;$**=******;$**=******) {$**=*******s*..*qq}
print chr 0x$& and q
qq}*excess********}'
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Date: 05 Jul 1999 17:43:28 -0400
From: Uri Guttman <uri@sysarch.com>
Subject: Re: NewBie - how to open a file?
Message-Id: <x71zemydq7.fsf@home.sysarch.com>
>>>>> "A" == Abigail <abigail@delanet.com> writes:
A> Noone knows how to open a file in Perl. Noone here ever reads the manual.
who is this noone guy? he seems to know a lot of perl.
uri
--
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Date: Mon, 05 Jul 1999 22:04:28 GMT
From: michel.dalle@usa.net (Michel Dalle)
Subject: Re: NewBie - how to open a file?
Message-Id: <7lra3l$2lq$1@xenon.inbe.net>
In article <x71zemydq7.fsf@home.sysarch.com>, Uri Guttman <uri@sysarch.com> wrote:
>>>>>> "A" == Abigail <abigail@delanet.com> writes:
>
> A> Noone knows how to open a file in Perl. Noone here ever reads the manual.
>
>who is this noone guy? he seems to know a lot of perl.
>
The sister of Obi-Wan, maybe ?
Michel.
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Date: 5 Jul 1999 17:57:32 -0500
From: abigail@delanet.com (Abigail)
Subject: Re: NewBie - how to open a file?
Message-Id: <slrn7o2e28.h6v.abigail@alexandra.delanet.com>
Uri Guttman (uri@sysarch.com) wrote on MMCXXXIV September MCMXCIII in
<URL:news:x71zemydq7.fsf@home.sysarch.com>:
%% >>>>> "A" == Abigail <abigail@delanet.com> writes:
%%
%% A> Noone knows how to open a file in Perl. Noone here ever reads the manual.
%%
%% who is this noone guy? he seems to know a lot of perl.
It's a secret.
Abigail
--
perl -e '* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
/ / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / /
% % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % %;
BEGIN {% % = ($ _ = " " => print "Just Another Perl Hacker\n")}'
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Date: Mon, 05 Jul 1999 23:12:38 GMT
From: Rick Delaney <rick.delaney@home.com>
Subject: Re: NewBie - how to open a file?
Message-Id: <37813BB5.C2E70647@home.com>
[posted & mailed]
Uri Guttman wrote:
>
> >>>>> "A" == Abigail <abigail@delanet.com> writes:
>
> A> Noone knows how to open a file in Perl. Noone here ever reads the manual.
>
> who is this noone guy? he seems to know a lot of perl.
Former lead singer of Herman's Hermits, he is the subject of this week's
"Where are they now?"
--
Rick Delaney
rick.delaney@home.com
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Date: Mon, 05 Jul 1999 23:55:15 GMT
From: alastair@calliope.demon.co.uk (Alastair)
Subject: Re: NewBie - how to open a file?
Message-Id: <slrn7o2l48.5p.alastair@calliope.demon.co.uk>
Daniel Vesma <daniel.vesma@thewebtree.com> wrote (minus 'die') :
>
>open(Handle, "file.txt") or die "Open failed: $!";
Don't forget to check the return from 'open'.
--
Alastair
work : alastair@psoft.co.uk
home : alastair@calliope.demon.co.uk
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Date: Sat, 3 Jul 1999 02:29:00 -0400
From: "Jody Fedor" <JFedor@datacom-css.com>
Subject: Re: newbie help... should be simple
Message-Id: <7lk8o9$j85$1@plonk.apk.net>
tony____d@my-deja.com wrote in message <7lifk7$btt$1@nnrp1.deja.com>...
>I was wondering if someone would be so kind to help,
>
>I am trying to split a url into pieces, then use one of the pieces (the
>last piece) to print to the html page
>The elements of the url are:
>
>http://foo.foo.com/bla/bla.dll?bla&blanumber=123546842
>
>All I can do so far is remove the http://, I'd like the script to find
>the "=" and print out only how ever many numbers follow, but
>only if numbers follow the "=". The result on the html page would look
>like:
>
>Here is the Number: 123546842
To extract just the number portion you can use this simple regex:
$num = $url; $num =~ s/.+=//; print $num;
Jody
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Date: Thu, 01 Jul 1999 15:40:00 -0400
From: Slav Inger <vinger@mail.ford.com>
Subject: Re: Newbie questions
Message-Id: <377BC410.351DA14E@mail.ford.com>
CapWalker wrote:
>
> Sorry to double post, but I can't find my first message...
>
> As a total newbie I need some guidance, either to a FAQ or
> if someone can reply...
>
> 1 - What programs should I get to start Perl ? I've gotten
> version 5.x and the PDK from Activestate
> 2 - What program in the two above will create a stand alone
> executable ?
> 3 - I'm going out tonight and buying the camel book from
> O'reilly. Are there others that speak to a Windows 9x
> or NT environment ?
>
> Thanks
>
> **** Posted from RemarQ - http://www.remarq.com - Discussions Start Here (tm) ****
You might also want to pick up "Learning Perl" with lama on the cover.
O'Reilly has a title called "Learning Perl on Win32 systems", as well as
"Perl Resource Kit for Win32".
- Slav Inger.
- vinger@mail.ford.com
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Date: Mon, 05 Jul 1999 15:11:08 GMT
From: wganz~ZZZZ~@texoma.net (will)
Subject: Re: Newbie?: Is FreeBSD OK with Perl & Apache?
Message-Id: <3780c635.6160507@news.texoma.net>
>Of course this group is not in the business of advocating any particular OS
>generally but at <http://www.perl.com/pace/pub/perldocs/latest.html> is a
>list of the Unix and Unix-like OS that Perl has built in supports for.
I specifically did _NOT_ post to the OS specific newsgroups because I
have seen the jihads resulting from such queries. The various
comp.os.*.advocacy newsgroups are filled with testosterone impaired
zealots that live for such posts to waste bandwidth with
tomes&diatribes of why their particular OS can beat up everyone else's
OS.
What I was looking for a simple adult statement in 25 words or less
that simply says that FreeBSD has these advantages/disadvantage &
Linux has these advantages/disadvantages or they are the same since
they both compile the same source code & are UNIX clones.
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Date: Tue, 6 Jul 1999 06:12:56 +1000
From: e-lephant@b-igpond.com (elephant)
Subject: newbies and usenet [was: DB tutorials]
Message-Id: <MPG.11ebbcd62a955e3989af8@news-server>
[ item posted to comp.lang.perl.misc and CCed to Floyd Morrissette ]
Floyd Morrissette writes ..
>...But I always thought it would best to ask
>perhaps hundreds of people to get different ideas.
the attitude that you express here Floyd is one of the most annoying to
regular visitors to the newsgroups .. hopefully I will cover the reasons
for this in the remainder of this followup
>I know I am going to get a bad rep here but I would like to state that I
>thought newsgroups were a place especially for beginners to ask some
>pros questions.
no one minds being asked a question .. all anyone asks is that (1) the
beginner gives things a go first and (2) they ask the question with the
people who are answering it in mind (ie. give examples and information to
make their question clear) .. both of these conditions are part of the
same reason that your original paragraph (above) is annoying .. more as I
go
>It seems the answer for all questions could be "go read the docs or
>faqs" for I find it hard to believe that there are many questions that
>are not covered somewhere.
not at all .. but the answer to questions asked by beginners is more
often than not already covered in the documentation .. the same
documentation that the beginner copied and installed on their own machine
(or someone did on their behalf) .. all for a reason
ok .. so here we go
so what makes most beginner's posts annoying - thereby attracting flamage
?? .. what attitude were you expressing in your first paragraph ?
it's all about respect .. respect for other people's time and respect for
the effort that other people put in .. as an experienced usenet
participant I am thoroughly disgusted with the beginner who comes first
to usenet .. before reading the files that came with the program ..
before looking up a manual .. before trying something out .. before doing
anything
posting to usenet should be a last resort .. maybe a second last resort
if you don't have enough money to afford a book .. maybe a third last
resort if your internet connection doesn't allow web browsing .. it
should never be your first port of call
someone sat down and wrote some pretty damn excellent manuals for perl ..
and they give them away free of charge .. a lot of time and expense are
given to you free .. including the language .. and access to all the
modules .. but it's not enough that someone is given everything and the
instructions on how to use it .. you want to be able to get interractive
examples to your precise problem as well
the attitude that you expressed in your first paragraph is one of "my
problem is so important that it deserves hundreds of people's time" ..
you're just not that important Floyd .. and the attitude that you (or
your problem) is that important makes experienced usenet participants
sick
the conditions that I mentioned above are part of this same deal ..
people post shit like "I want to make a hotmail type web based mail thing
in perl, where do I start?" .. what the fuck !?!? .. do you people think
that someone pays people to answer the questions in this newsgroup ?
essentially that sort of request is saying .. "I don't have time to learn
this silly language, so I want you - who's time is not as important as
mine - to do all the legwork for me." .. of course this sort of request
is going to get flamed .. ESPECIALLY .. in a language and community that
already has a tonne of existing modular code - ready to use - mostly
fully documented
AND .. that has full documentation that you can literally learn the
language from - included - and presented in a very usable format
but noooooo .. that's not good enough .. "I've just installed perl and I
want to re-create hotmail, can someone post an example of how I'd do
this." .. fuck off
lastly .. not only do these sorts of questions indicate a lack of respect
for the people who are in here with the knowledge .. it also shows a lack
of respect for the time of the other newbie battlers who are trying to
understand and work things out for themselves
it makes it difficult to sift through all the crap searching for someone
who's actually asking a worthwhile question .. a question to which the
answer isn't lying just under the surface of the included documentation
.. a question that isn't solved by RTFM
if you had all the knowledge in the world about perl .. and you spent
some of your time contributing to a newsgroup such as this one .. and
there were two questions in front of you
(Q1)"
I'm trying to do xyz so that I can do abc to efg. I've tried Blah::Blah
and Blob and Blank and Dank packages, and I've also tried doing it myself
in regex with /blah..blah..blah/ .. and /this..that..other/, but I'm
having no luck. I've read the perlre and perlmod and been through CPAN a
few times. I'm getting qrs errors in the following code.
#--blah
With the following input.
--blah
Can someone point me in the right direction ?
"
(Q2)"
I just started perl today and need to know quickly how to open and read
in a file. I'm sure it's in the docs somewhere, but I've got this project
that really needs to be out today so if someone could just show me.
"
which one would you answer ?
now consider for a moment that in a day there might be 10-15 questions
very similar to Q2 .. some exactly the same .. all asking questions
answered in page one of the manual
now .. add to that people asking questions about Apache, CGI, UNIX, DOS
Command Shells, etc. etc. .. tell me when you're sick of hearing people
ask for you to hold their hand just long enough for them to get paid for
the work they've got to have done tomorrow
ironically .. answering Q1 above might take an hour .. Q2 would
definitely take less than 30 seconds .. wanna put odds on which one gets
answered ?
I think that paints a pretty good picture .. I know it sounds like it -
but I'm sure that I don't speak for everyone .. although I'd be surprised
if it wasn't most
--
jason - remove all hyphens for email reply -
------------------------------
Date: Sat, 3 Jul 1999 08:39:33 -0400
From: "Bob Stickel" <bbgraph@mail2.ee.net>
Subject: nmake questions - Win32
Message-Id: <7ll0pm$cpb$1@news2.ee.net>
I'm trying to use Perl/PHP/mysql as my dev suite for a web server/database
op I'm working on. Since there are mods that I need to build that can't be
installed via ppm or CPAN, I have to use nmake.
Can someone point me in the right direction for using nmake from Msoft for
my make program with Perl Win32?...I have the make=nmake in config.pm but am
unsure as to what other info should be in that .pm file or where the nmake
program should be located, switches if any I should be using, what should I
be looking for after the make process, what gets moved to where, etc...I
have been using different searches to try to locate Win32 and Perl info but
haven't been too successful with this topic. I also don't really understand
what the @INC means and why I have to place files in \lib or \site\lib when
the path is already defined to the system.....
Also, looking for opinions of the PRK for Win32....seems kind of expensive
.... don't mind the expense if the materials are concise, useful and timely.
Thanks
Bob
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Date: Sat, 3 Jul 1999 19:00:48 +0500
From: "Faisal Nasim" <swiftkid@bigfoot.com>
Subject: Re: nmake questions - Win32
Message-Id: <7lm8bq$9c95@news.cyber.net.pk>
> I'm trying to use Perl/PHP/mysql as my dev suite for a web server/database
> op I'm working on. Since there are mods that I need to build that can't be
> installed via ppm or CPAN, I have to use nmake.
Most of them can be installed using ppm.
DBI
DBD-mysql
DBD::CSV
etc.
>
> Can someone point me in the right direction for using nmake from Msoft for
> my make program with Perl Win32?...I have the make=nmake in config.pm but
am
> unsure as to what other info should be in that .pm file or where the nmake
> program should be located, switches if any I should be using, what should
I
> be looking for after the make process, what gets moved to where, etc...I
> have been using different searches to try to locate Win32 and Perl info
but
> haven't been too successful with this topic. I also don't really
understand
> what the @INC means and why I have to place files in \lib or \site\lib
when
> the path is already defined to the system.....
I don't anything when I need to install a module, its simple:
perl makefile.pl #on win32, case doesn't matter
nmake
nmake test #I rarely do this
nmake install
thats it!
but I haven't been able to compile any .C or any .XS code through nmake!
it correctly installs stuff where they should be installed.
>
> Also, looking for opinions of the PRK for Win32....seems kind of expensive
> .... don't mind the expense if the materials are concise, useful and
timely.
I have absolutely no idea about this.
>
> Thanks
>
> Bob
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Date: Fri, 02 Jul 1999 22:01:38 -0700
From: Phil Voris <pvorishatesspam@earthlink.net>
Subject: NNTP and binaries
Message-Id: <377D9932.3203DB32@earthlink.net>
I've written a script which grabs news postings. However, I'm at a loss
as to how I should handle binary files. How would I pull out and save
an mp3 or image file preceded by text?
Thanks,
Phil
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Date: Sat, 3 Jul 1999 12:19:56 +0500
From: "Faisal Nasim" <swiftkid@bigfoot.com>
Subject: Re: NNTP and binaries
Message-Id: <7llgs2$9c93@news.cyber.net.pk>
news:377D9932.3203DB32@earthlink.net...
> I've written a script which grabs news postings. However, I'm at a loss
> as to how I should handle binary files. How would I pull out and save
> an mp3 or image file preceded by text?
See MIME::Parser
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