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Mon Aug 31 13:05:37 1998
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 98 10:01:29 -0700
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Perl-Users Digest Mon, 31 Aug 1998 Volume: 8 Number: 3597
Today's topics:
Re: perl wrapper in shell? <eashton@bbnplanet.com>
Re: perl wrapper in shell? (Matthew Bafford)
Re: perl wrapper in shell? <rootbeer@teleport.com>
SSI problem <desquite@hotmail.com>
Re: SSI problem <rootbeer@teleport.com>
Statistics for comp.lang.perl.misc <gbacon@cs.uah.edu>
Re: Using password with sybperl (Abigail)
Re: Y2K Date Support (Abigail)
Re: Yet another RegX Question. (Greg Bacon)
Re: Yet another RegX Question. (Patrick Timmins)
Special: Digest Administrivia (Last modified: 12 Mar 98 (Perl-Users-Digest Admin)
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Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1998 15:42:03 GMT
From: Elaine Ashton <eashton@bbnplanet.com>
Subject: Re: perl wrapper in shell?
Message-Id: <35EAC1F7.1207ED0B@bbnplanet.com>
> I'm using various perl scrips on different unix systems, where perl is at
> different locations
> I want to use somethign like
> #!`which perl`
> but that doesn't work really. Anybody know how to write some kinda wrapper
> which executes perl (including options ofcourse) from perl from the Path? I
> could use 2 different files, one shell file and one perl file, but I wanne
> have them at one single file. Anybody some idea?
im something of a fascist unix admin when it comes to consistency of
where
programs should be. you create more complexity by adding a 'wrapper' and
make it even less portable. i see people do this all the time and it
makes
no sense to me. if you are not the admin or if you are i would highly
recommend symbolic links to /usr/local... or wherever your perl is
across
all the systems. consistency and simplicity are your friends. if there
were
a function called by shebang that would look for perl, that would be
elegant
but in lieu of that you may be better off with the consistent
location/links.
e.
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Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1998 11:48:55 -0400
From: dragons@scescape.net (Matthew Bafford)
Subject: Re: perl wrapper in shell?
Message-Id: <MPG.10548fda1df77f07989682@news.south-carolina.net>
In article <6se7sh$13k$1@wnnews.sci.kun.nl> on 31 Aug 1998
13:19:13 GMT, Stephan Jager (stephanj@sci.kun.nl) pounded in the
following text:
=> Hello,
=>
=> I'm using various perl scrips on different unix systems, where perl is at
=> different locations
=> I want to use somethign like
=> #!`which perl`
=> but that doesn't work really. Anybody know how to write some kinda wrapper
=> which executes perl (including options ofcourse) from perl from the Path? I
=> could use 2 different files, one shell file and one perl file, but I wanne
=> have them at one single file. Anybody some idea?
=>
=> Stephan
=>
=>
Look at the 'x' command line option for perl.
Basically it's be something like:
#!nonperlprogram
... do some stuff that isn't perl ...
... including calling perl with the -x flag and the name of ...
... this script ...
#!perl <flags>
... do some stuff that _is_ perl ...
__END__
Hope this helps!
--Matthew
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Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1998 15:52:26 GMT
From: Tom Phoenix <rootbeer@teleport.com>
Subject: Re: perl wrapper in shell?
Message-Id: <Pine.GSO.4.02A.9808310850050.26370-100000@user2.teleport.com>
On 31 Aug 1998, Stephan Jager wrote:
> I'm using various perl scrips on different unix systems, where perl is
> at different locations
Of course, /usr/local/bin/perl should be a symlink pointing to the real
perl on nearly any Unix-like system.
> Anybody know how to write some kinda wrapper which executes perl
> (including options ofcourse) from perl from the Path?
There's something about this in the perlrun manpage. Hope this helps!
--
Tom Phoenix Perl Training and Hacking Esperanto
Randal Schwartz Case: http://www.rahul.net/jeffrey/ovs/
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Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1998 11:40:57 -0400
From: "DesQuite" <desquite@hotmail.com>
Subject: SSI problem
Message-Id: <CqAG1.69$YI.8138954@news.asheboro.com>
I insert this code into my test.shtml file
<!--#exec cgi="/cgi-bin/filename.cgi"-->
and then receive this error when I open the file in my browser
HTTP/1.1 200 OK Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1998 15:25:13 GMT Server:
Microsoft-IIS/4.0 Content-type: text/html 'D:\***\***\***\test.shtml script
produced no output
Yes, it's a stupid NT sever, but I don't have any control over that. Am I
just making a stupid mistake or is there something I can try to run this
script? The script will run fine when it's run by itself in the browser.
Thanks.
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Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1998 16:34:28 GMT
From: Tom Phoenix <rootbeer@teleport.com>
Subject: Re: SSI problem
Message-Id: <Pine.GSO.4.02A.9808310933330.26370-100000@user2.teleport.com>
On Mon, 31 Aug 1998, DesQuite wrote:
> Subject: SSI problem
SSIs need to be set up in the server. The docs, FAQs, and newsgroups about
servers and related issues should be of some help to you. Good luck!
--
Tom Phoenix Perl Training and Hacking Esperanto
Randal Schwartz Case: http://www.rahul.net/jeffrey/ovs/
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Date: 31 Aug 1998 15:27:35 GMT
From: Greg Bacon <gbacon@cs.uah.edu>
Subject: Statistics for comp.lang.perl.misc
Message-Id: <6sefd7$qrj$7@info.uah.edu>
Following is a summary of articles spanning a 7 day period,
beginning at 24 Aug 1998 14:32:19 GMT and ending at
31 Aug 1998 07:07:16 GMT.
Notes
=====
- A line in the body of a post is considered to be original if it
does *not* match the regular expression /^\s{0,3}(?:>|:|\S+>|\+\+)/.
- All text after the last cut line (/^-- $/) in the body is
considered to be the author's signature.
- The scanner prefers the Reply-To: header over the From: header
in determining the "real" e-mail address and name.
- Original Content Rating (OCR) is the ratio of the original content
volume to the total body volume.
- Find the News-Scan distribution on the CPAN!
<URL:http://www.perl.com/CPAN/modules/by-module/News/>
- Please send all comments to Greg Bacon <gbacon@cs.uah.edu>.
- Copyright (c) 1998 Greg Bacon. All Rights Reserved.
Verbatim copying and redistribution is permitted without royalty;
alteration is not permitted. Redistribution and/or use for any
commercial purpose is prohibited.
Excluded Posters
================
perlfaq-suggestions\@mox\.perl\.com
Totals
======
Posters: 546
Articles: 1767 (806 with cutlined signatures)
Threads: 423
Volume generated: 3046.6 kb
- headers: 1273.8 kb (24,566 lines)
- bodies: 1631.9 kb (48,912 lines)
- original: 1102.6 kb (35,501 lines)
- signatures: 139.2 kb (2,889 lines)
Original Content Rating: 0.676
Averages
========
Posts per poster: 3.2
median: 1.0 post
mode: 1 post - 342 posters
s: 7.0 posts
Posts per thread: 4.2
median: 2 posts
mode: 2 posts - 113 threads
s: 8.5 posts
Message size: 1765.6 bytes
- header: 738.2 bytes (13.9 lines)
- body: 945.7 bytes (27.7 lines)
- original: 639.0 bytes (20.1 lines)
- signature: 80.7 bytes (1.6 lines)
Top 10 Posters by Number of Posts
=================================
(kb) (kb) (kb) (kb)
Posts Volume ( hdr/ body/ orig) Address
----- -------------------------- -------
60 105.9 ( 41.2/ 57.9/ 36.8) lr@hpl.hp.com (Larry Rosler)
56 94.5 ( 38.2/ 50.3/ 29.0) Gellyfish@btinternet.com (Jonathan Stowe)
53 78.6 ( 41.7/ 30.5/ 20.9) Tom Phoenix <rootbeer@teleport.com>
50 109.2 ( 35.8/ 73.3/ 48.4) cberry@cinenet.net (Craig Berry)
40 64.1 ( 22.2/ 41.9/ 34.3) mjd@op.net (Mark-Jason Dominus)
37 69.6 ( 32.2/ 30.8/ 14.3) abigail@fnx.com
33 62.6 ( 25.8/ 32.6/ 21.8) No.unsoiliciteds@dead.end (Norman UNsoliciteds)
31 51.9 ( 22.5/ 29.4/ 29.1) fl_aggie@thepentagon.com (I R A Aggie)
29 56.6 ( 21.5/ 27.1/ 15.9) Russ Allbery <rra@stanford.edu>
29 44.0 ( 26.7/ 17.0/ 8.1) jdporter@min.net
These posters accounted for 23.7% of all articles.
Top 10 Posters by Volume
========================
(kb) (kb) (kb) (kb)
Volume ( hdr/ body/ orig) Posts Address
-------------------------- ----- -------
109.2 ( 35.8/ 73.3/ 48.4) 50 cberry@cinenet.net (Craig Berry)
105.9 ( 41.2/ 57.9/ 36.8) 60 lr@hpl.hp.com (Larry Rosler)
94.5 ( 38.2/ 50.3/ 29.0) 56 Gellyfish@btinternet.com (Jonathan Stowe)
78.6 ( 41.7/ 30.5/ 20.9) 53 Tom Phoenix <rootbeer@teleport.com>
76.1 ( 22.2/ 44.0/ 31.9) 28 Zenin <zenin@bawdycaste.org>
69.6 ( 32.2/ 30.8/ 14.3) 37 abigail@fnx.com
64.1 ( 22.2/ 41.9/ 34.3) 40 mjd@op.net (Mark-Jason Dominus)
62.6 ( 25.8/ 32.6/ 21.8) 33 No.unsoiliciteds@dead.end (Norman UNsoliciteds)
56.6 ( 21.5/ 27.1/ 15.9) 29 Russ Allbery <rra@stanford.edu>
51.9 ( 22.5/ 29.4/ 29.1) 31 fl_aggie@thepentagon.com (I R A Aggie)
These posters accounted for 25.2% of the total volume.
Top 10 Posters by OCR (minimum of five posts)
==============================================
(kb) (kb)
OCR orig / body Posts Address
----- -------------- ----- -------
1.000 ( 1.4 / 1.4) 7 "Todd B" <NOTHANKStbeaulieu@mediaone.net>
0.990 ( 29.1 / 29.4) 31 fl_aggie@thepentagon.com (I R A Aggie)
0.988 ( 6.6 / 6.7) 16 mee@mine.com
0.988 ( 5.0 / 5.0) 5 tye@fumnix.metronet.com (Tye McQueen)
0.967 ( 5.0 / 5.2) 7 Benjamin Low <b.d.low@unsw.edu.au>
0.961 ( 3.5 / 3.6) 5 "Erik Knepfler" <erik@zeno.com>
0.870 ( 3.1 / 3.5) 5 "John Call" <johnc@interactive.ibm.com>
0.843 ( 7.2 / 8.6) 7 Andrew Johnson <ajohnson@gpu.srv.ualberta.ca>
0.817 ( 34.3 / 41.9) 40 mjd@op.net (Mark-Jason Dominus)
0.814 ( 15.5 / 19.1) 13 Daniel Grisinger <dgris@rand.dimensional.com>
Bottom 10 Posters by OCR (minimum of five posts)
=================================================
(kb) (kb)
OCR orig / body Posts Address
----- -------------- ----- -------
0.464 ( 14.3 / 30.8) 37 abigail@fnx.com
0.454 ( 3.9 / 8.6) 9 david.hawker@cableol.co.uk
0.445 ( 2.1 / 4.8) 10 alastair@calliope.demon.co.uk
0.440 ( 3.0 / 6.9) 6 Dan Boorstein <danboo@negia.net>
0.437 ( 6.2 / 14.1) 14 Ala Qumsieh <aqumsieh@tigre.matrox.com>
0.403 ( 4.2 / 10.5) 5 John Goerzen <jgoerzen+usenet@complete.org>
0.393 ( 1.9 / 4.8) 6 maurice@hevanet.com (Maurice Aubrey)
0.368 ( 1.5 / 4.2) 5 kpreid@ibm.net (Kevin Reid)
0.291 ( 3.1 / 10.5) 9 david.hawker@removethis.cableol.co.uk
0.238 ( 2.1 / 8.7) 6 whatpartofdontemailme@dontyouunderstand
75 posters (13%) had at least five posts.
Top 10 Threads by Number of Posts
=================================
Posts Subject
----- -------
123 Perl compiler
67 Perl documentation
51 Y2K Date Support
50 comp.lang.perl.windows.misc
45 Imagine... a non-greedy world!
31 Unreadable Scripts?
27 Perl FAR version 1.1.1 MAKE SURE YOU READ THIS BEFORE POSTING
25 Max value in an array
19 Perl Cookbook, does anyone have it?
18 Determining strlen
These threads accounted for 25.8% of all articles.
Top 10 Threads by Volume
========================
(kb) (kb) (kb) (kb)
Volume ( hdr/ body/ orig) Posts Subject
-------------------------- ----- -------
255.2 ( 96.3/148.4/ 91.5) 123 Perl compiler
136.4 ( 57.5/ 72.7/ 44.5) 67 Perl documentation
88.1 ( 40.1/ 44.5/ 30.9) 51 Y2K Date Support
85.3 ( 35.9/ 44.6/ 24.4) 50 comp.lang.perl.windows.misc
80.2 ( 36.5/ 39.5/ 28.3) 45 Imagine... a non-greedy world!
58.2 ( 24.3/ 31.9/ 24.8) 27 Perl FAR version 1.1.1 MAKE SURE YOU READ THIS BEFORE POSTING
48.5 ( 16.5/ 30.7/ 15.7) 18 COBOL and Perl
43.1 ( 11.6/ 29.1/ 21.1) 16 Misinterpreted => why no true/false keywords?
42.8 ( 23.4/ 17.4/ 11.2) 31 Unreadable Scripts?
41.0 ( 18.6/ 19.6/ 12.3) 25 Max value in an array
These threads accounted for 28.8% of the total volume.
Top 10 Threads by OCR (minimum of five posts)
==============================================
(kb) (kb)
OCR orig / body Posts Subject
----- -------------- ----- -------
0.849 ( 3.6/ 4.3) 8 Help - Perl security problem!
0.845 ( 5.2/ 6.2) 7 "protocol not supported" with socket()
0.788 ( 3.6/ 4.5) 7 chop bug
0.780 ( 24.8/ 31.9) 27 Perl FAR version 1.1.1 MAKE SURE YOU READ THIS BEFORE POSTING
0.780 ( 2.3/ 2.9) 5 problems with checking file just created
0.775 ( 3.5/ 4.5) 5 Using <!--something-->
0.772 ( 2.9/ 3.8) 9 question RE downloading webpages and parsing them.
0.771 ( 1.9/ 2.5) 5 What is it?
0.771 ( 3.4/ 4.4) 5 new and with a lot of questions
0.757 ( 1.6/ 2.1) 5 Perl script compiling
Bottom 10 Threads by OCR (minimum of five posts)
=================================================
(kb) (kb)
OCR orig / body Posts Subject
----- -------------- ----- -------
0.540 ( 4.9 / 9.1) 9 pattern matching
0.525 ( 2.4 / 4.6) 6 Argh! NT Perl
0.512 ( 15.7 / 30.7) 18 COBOL and Perl
0.512 ( 4.0 / 7.9) 10 what's wrong with this statement?
0.484 ( 2.7 / 5.7) 5 CGI Form Refresh
0.480 ( 1.1 / 2.4) 5 logical negation
0.461 ( 2.9 / 6.3) 6 Bit of humor
0.455 ( 2.8 / 6.1) 6 Perlscript: where is documentation
0.418 ( 1.4 / 3.4) 5 Perl Docs.. forget the original post
0.312 ( 0.4 / 1.2) 5 Where to find Net::Domain?
84 threads (19%) had at least five posts.
Top 10 Targets for Crossposts
=============================
Articles Newsgroup
-------- ---------
108 comp.lang.perl.modules
17 comp.lang.cobol
15 comp.lang.perl.tk
13 comp.lang.perl
11 comp.os.linux.misc
6 comp.lang.javascript
6 comp.os.linux.setup
5 comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard.tech
5 comp.os.linux.advocacy
5 comp.mail.misc
Top 10 Crossposters
===================
Articles Address
-------- -------
17 peterp@netteens.com
17 "Michael W. Lancaster" <conservative-party@iname.com>
17 "John H. Cato, Jr." <jcato@accessatc.net>
17 eglamkowski@angelfire.com
17 thorsten@pixel-gmbh.de
9 abigail@fnx.com
8 Mick B <bellears@deakin.edu.au>
8 cberry@cinenet.net (Craig Berry)
7 Gellyfish@btinternet.com (Jonathan Stowe)
7 "Issam W. Alameh" <issam@qtel.com.qa>
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Date: 31 Aug 1998 16:27:32 GMT
From: abigail@fnx.com (Abigail)
Subject: Re: Using password with sybperl
Message-Id: <6seitk$doj$1@client3.news.psi.net>
Jonathan Stowe (Gellyfish@btinternet.com) wrote on MDCCCXXVI September
MCMXCIII in <URL: news:35ea8248.63000457@news.btinternet.com>:
++ On Mon, 31 Aug 1998 10:44:28 +0200, Geert Roovers wrote :
++
++ <snip>
++ >
++ >i take it that I have to put my userId and password in the script. Is
++ >this a safe thing to do? I'd think of it as a security risk (anybody
++ >with access to the script's source code will know my password), but
++ >wouldn't know how to avoid this. Any suggestions?
++ >
++
++ This kind of thing has been done to death in recent weeks I'm afraid -
++ quick search of this group for "password" in DejaNews will throw up
++ more discussion than you will care to read. However a couple of
++ suggestions:
++
++ A) Put the login information in a file that is only readable by you
++ (or whoever will run the script) and possibly refuse to run the
++ program if the permissions are otherwise.
That doesn't add anything over storing the passwords in the source
of the program - you can as easily make the script only readable
by whoever runs the script.
In fact, this is exactly why there are file permissions on Unix.
I would do the following:
- Run the cgi programs under a user-id of which only "trusted"
people have the password. ("trusted" people: people who have
nothing to gain by reading the database password, for instance,
because they already have it).
- Make your script readonly for that user.
- Create a dedicated user in the database, to be used from the
script. (You might want to give the user limited permissions).
Use the user-id and password of that user in the script.
Abigail
--
perl -wle '$, = " "; print grep {(1 x $_) !~ /^(11+)\1+$/} 2 .. shift'
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Date: 31 Aug 1998 15:59:18 GMT
From: abigail@fnx.com (Abigail)
Subject: Re: Y2K Date Support
Message-Id: <6seh8m$d6k$1@client3.news.psi.net>
Patrick Timmins (ptimmins@netserv.unmc.edu) wrote on MDCCCXXVI September
MCMXCIII in <URL: news:6sdhtc$fld$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com>:
++ In article <at0G1.56$Ts1.128288@client.news.psi.net>,
++ abigail@fnx.com wrote:
++ > Patrick Timmins (ptimmins@netserv.unmc.edu) wrote on MDCCCXXIII September
++ > MCMXCIII in <URL: news:6s77gq$e08$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com>:
++ [snip]
++ > ++ > Hmmm. Have you ever worked with a string containing more than 4
++ > ++ > characters?
++ > ++ > Did it fit on the bus?
++ > ++ [snip]
++ > ++
++ > ++ byte by byte, yes
++ >
++ > And, which magical properties of time prevent it from being put on the
++ > bus 32 bits by 32 bits?
++
++ Sheeesh! 4 by 4. But what does string processing have to do with
++ the fact that what we have is a numerical processing problem originating
++ from a hardware limitation?
Just because 32 bits was choosen to fit a certain hardware size doesn't
mean the Y2038 problem is a hardware problem.
It isn't.
Abigail
--
sub _'_{$_'_=~s/$a/$_/}map{$$_=$Z++}Y,a..z,A..X;*{($_::_=sprintf+q=%X==>"$A$Y".
"$b$r$T$u")=~s~0~O~g;map+_::_,U=>T=>L=>$Z;$_::_}=*_;sub _{print+/.*::(.*)/s}
*_'_=*{chr($b*$e)};*__=*{chr(1<<$e)};
_::_(r(e(k(c(a(H(__(l(r(e(P(__(r(e(h(t(o(n(a(__(t(us(J())))))))))))))))))))))))
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Date: 31 Aug 1998 15:11:34 GMT
From: gbacon@itsc.uah.edu (Greg Bacon)
Subject: Re: Yet another RegX Question.
Message-Id: <6seef6$qrj$6@info.uah.edu>
In article <35EAACB9.75F547D6@sneex.fccj.org>,
Bill 'Sneex' Jones <sneaker@sneex.fccj.org> writes:
: next if $url =~ /^(a href=http:|a href=news:)/;
You forgot to allow mixed case. You forgot to allow quotes.
Why does everyone want to parse HTML with regexen? It's much simpler
to do (and much more likely to be correct) with Gisle's parser.
Greg
--
I guess I just prefer to see the dark side of things. The glass is always
half-empty. And cracked. And I just cut my lip on it. And chipped a tooth.
-- Janeane Garofalo
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Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1998 15:21:45 GMT
From: ptimmins@netserv.unmc.edu (Patrick Timmins)
Subject: Re: Yet another RegX Question.
Message-Id: <6sef29$fd7$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com>
In article <6se99l$8ea$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com>,
chad@gurucom.net wrote:
>
>
> Ok, This works great. But if 'news' or 'http' is after the href=" I want
> to skip it, how do I do that?
>
> (@cats) = $content =~ /<li><a href="(.*?)"><b>/ig;
>
> ???????
>
> (@cats) = $content =~ /<li><a href="^(http|news)(.*?)"><b>/ig;
>
> thanks,
>
> -chad
Based on your last few posts, it sounds like you have a lot of regex
handling to do in your work. For about $30.00 (US) you can purchase
Jeffrey Friedl's "Mastering Regular Expressions". Honestly, this is
an enjoyable read ... not dry at all, and in just a week or two, you'll
be totally independent in working on your regexes ... it will save
you *lots* of time ... honestly. You can get it from the publisher
(O'Reilly and Assoc www.ora.com), Barnes and Noble, Amazon, etc.
Hope you believe me ...
Patrick Timmins
U. Nebraska Medical Center
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