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Mon Aug 31 13:04:22 1998
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 98 10:00:24 -0700
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Perl-Users Digest Mon, 31 Aug 1998 Volume: 8 Number: 3596
Today's topics:
Re: Accessing remote computers throught RSH <eashton@bbnplanet.com>
Algorithm help...math and perl... <ptomsic@pitt.edu>
Re: Better Regular Expressions (was: Re: Imagine... a n <uri@sysarch.com>
Re: Better Regular Expressions (was: Re: Imagine... a n <rootbeer@teleport.com>
Re: dbmclose screws up my foreach loop <rootbeer@teleport.com>
DeCrypt ? <yokelee@nt.com>
Re: DeCrypt ? (Larry Rosler)
Re: DeCrypt ? <rootbeer@teleport.com>
DESTROY problems <ets@egnetz.uebemc.siemens.de>
Re: DESTROY problems <rootbeer@teleport.com>
Re: Download scipt with questions <rootbeer@teleport.com>
fast fork problem (was: Re: session id) (Greg Bacon)
Re: fast fork problem (was: Re: session id) <lakesoft@skypoint.com>
Re: GD.pm <eashton@bbnplanet.com>
Re: How do I get server-side includes to work with IIS? (Abigail)
Re: How do you prompt a user for data? (Abigail)
how does one delete a file with Perl? <lakesoft@skypoint.com>
Re: how does one delete a file with Perl? (Mike Stok)
Re: How to extract first letter in string? tech_support9@geocities.com
Re: Installation Problem on redhat linux (Randy Kobes)
Re: mail relay check <rootbeer@teleport.com>
Re: Max value in an array <jdporter@min.net>
MLDBM reference confusion mike_miller@my-dejanews.com
New posters to comp.lang.perl.misc <gbacon@cs.uah.edu>
Re: Perl "<!--#exec" with IIS, How? (Abigail)
Re: Perl and apache <eashton@bbnplanet.com>
Re: Perl Cookbook, does anyone have it? (Michael L Denniston,CD108C SCIE,299-4097,3)
Re: PERL is horrible (Larry Rosler)
Re: PERL is horrible (Larry Rosler)
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Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1998 16:26:16 GMT
From: Elaine -HappyFunBall- Ashton <eashton@bbnplanet.com>
Subject: Re: Accessing remote computers throught RSH
Message-Id: <35EACC54.78486FD2@bbnplanet.com>
Patrick Boucher wrote:
>
> I have to garner results of the 'ps -eaf' and 'who' commands on a remote
> computer. I thought of using this with the usr/bin/rsh command. Is there a
> way to use rsh to get this information, capture the result code of the rsh
> execution AND the return of the executed command?
so, you basically want to have some status monitoring for remote systems
right?
rsh is really really really not a good idea. rsh is way too insecure for
my
tastes. there are many ways to accomplish this and with commercial
products
like Tivoli you can choose from many different models. you must ask
yourself
several questions.
1. What is my current architecture and administration model? i.e. where
do
you draw the lines on the visio document.
2. What is my security model?
3. What method would be the most simple and elegant solution given the
answer to question #1 and #2. simple, secure, elegant. chant it.
i did something like this a while back on an academic network. each
machine
ran a process at a given freq. via cron and mailed me the results which
was
then processed a main program and would alert me to problems or flags i
had
told it about.
you could also consider rpc and make..but i digress.
> Any ideas on how to do this or any help would be greatly appreciated!
hope this helps...i am a major fan of if its done more than once,
automate!
e.
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Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1998 12:41:19 -0400
From: "Tomsic, Paul" <ptomsic@pitt.edu>
Subject: Algorithm help...math and perl...
Message-Id: <6sejpk$7a4$1@usenet01.srv.cis.pitt.edu>
I'm trying to make a program that will take a directory of files (on NT)
and assemble them in order, so I'm thinking about appending a letter on to
the end of each file, such that
file1_a, file2_b, file3_c,...,file27_aa, file28_bb, etc.
That way the directory would be in order. NT orders such that the files
would be
1,10,100,2,20,200,3,30,300 which is no good.
Has anyone done anything like this?
I'm looking at something like the following scenerio....
Start w/ the base value 65 (ascii code for "A")
then add to it the loop iteration number J (initally 0) MOD-ed by 26
(the number of letters in the alphabet)
Next letter to be output is CHAR(J MOD 26) + 65) - this takes the ASCII Code
for "A", which is 65
Re - append alpha portion - "File" + CHAR(J MOD 26) + ".gif" == "File" + "a"
+ ".gif"
If J DIV 26 > 0,, then there's more than one digit in the orig name, so
replace J w/ the results of J DIV 26 and repeat until J = 0 (so for the 27th
file, the name gets post-pended with "AA"
Seriously, if anyone whose dealt a lot w/ Perl and Math, could 'throw me a
bone' here, I'd appreciate it.
Thanks
--Paul
UPMC Health System
tomsicpj@msx.upmc.edu
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Date: 31 Aug 1998 11:48:55 -0400
From: Uri Guttman <uri@sysarch.com>
Subject: Re: Better Regular Expressions (was: Re: Imagine... a non-greedy world!)
Message-Id: <x7hfyt2lug.fsf@sysarch.com>
>>>>> "TP" == Tom Phoenix <rootbeer@teleport.com> writes:
TP> On Mon, 31 Aug 1998, Mee wrote:
>> So, it may be better to start with common sense instead.
TP> Maybe you didn't notice my request that you be specific. Please try again.
tom,
this is the heart of this moron's problem. he has yet to post anything
real after numerous requests. his last aste of space said that html
parsing should be built in to RE!! he obviously doesn't understand the
problem with parsing recursive structures with a non-procedural language
like RE. he juat wants what he wants without concern for how it gets
done.
i wish this were IRC so we could just kick him from the group totally.
uri
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Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1998 15:21:53 GMT
From: Tom Phoenix <rootbeer@teleport.com>
Subject: Re: Better Regular Expressions (was: Re: Imagine... a non-greedy world!)
Message-Id: <Pine.GSO.4.02A.9808310821210.26370-100000@user2.teleport.com>
On Mon, 31 Aug 1998, Mee wrote:
> So, it may be better to start with common sense instead.
Maybe you didn't notice my request that you be specific. Please try again.
--
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Randal Schwartz Case: http://www.rahul.net/jeffrey/ovs/
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Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1998 15:34:02 GMT
From: Tom Phoenix <rootbeer@teleport.com>
Subject: Re: dbmclose screws up my foreach loop
Message-Id: <Pine.GSO.4.02A.9808310830260.26370-100000@user2.teleport.com>
On Mon, 31 Aug 1998 serstad@acc.jc.edu wrote:
> Suppose I have a loop around a number of dbmopens and dbmcloses,
> possibly to loop through a number of directories that have the exact
> same database file in them. Every time it gets to the DBMclose, it
> pretty much kills my loop control variable.
What, precisely, happens to the loop control variable? Could you print it
out before and after the dbmclose? That would be a big help in knowing
what's really going on. Thanks!
--
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Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1998 10:29:16 -0500
From: Yoke Lee <yokelee@nt.com>
Subject: DeCrypt ?
Message-Id: <35E96FCC.1639@nt.com>
Hi folks,
Is there a way to decrypt a password? The perl docs did not mention
anything about decryption, just encryption (using the crypt function).
Many thanks for a quick response.
Regards,
yoke
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Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1998 09:22:59 -0700
From: lr@hpl.hp.com (Larry Rosler)
Subject: Re: DeCrypt ?
Message-Id: <MPG.10546dbbc825bcba98981b@nntp.hpl.hp.com>
[Posted to comp.lang.perl.misc and copy mailed.]
In article <35E96FCC.1639@nt.com> on Sun, 30 Aug 1998 10:29:16 -0500,
Yoke Lee <yokelee@nt.com> says...
> Is there a way to decrypt a password? The perl docs did not mention
> anything about decryption, just encryption (using the crypt function).
>
> Many thanks for a quick response.
No. Quick enough?
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Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1998 16:37:11 GMT
From: Tom Phoenix <rootbeer@teleport.com>
Subject: Re: DeCrypt ?
Message-Id: <Pine.GSO.4.02A.9808310936160.26370-100000@user2.teleport.com>
On Sun, 30 Aug 1998, Yoke Lee wrote:
> Is there a way to decrypt a password? The perl docs did not mention
> anything about decryption, just encryption (using the crypt function).
Take another look at the docs about crypt. Hope this helps!
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Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1998 16:35:05 +0200
From: "Hr. Jochen Stenzel" <ets@egnetz.uebemc.siemens.de>
Subject: DESTROY problems
Message-Id: <35EAB499.3D05F0D@egnetz.uebemc.siemens.de>
Hello,
I have a piece of code that exits by "exit $state". Even if $state is
not 0, the shell "status" variable is always 0. Searching for the
reason, I found that I used an object with an explicit DESTROY() method,
which replies 0. My speculation is that exit() is executed first, than
the program scope is closed which causes DESTROY() to be called, and ITS
return code is finally passed to the shell. Is it done this way?
If so, it seems to be very dangerous. This module was written by myself,
and so I know what happens. But if any other module is used it could
define a DESTROY() method for its objects, too. If I call exit($rc) in
such a case anywhere in a script, this return code may never be passed
to the calling shell because of several DESTROY() methods called after
exit() ... This would not be very transparent. Shouldn't exit() be very
special a way that ITS return code should always be replied by a script,
regardless of any cleanup code?
Or am I wrong?
J. Stenzel
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Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1998 16:03:29 GMT
From: Tom Phoenix <rootbeer@teleport.com>
Subject: Re: DESTROY problems
Message-Id: <Pine.GSO.4.02A.9808310859150.26370-100000@user2.teleport.com>
On Mon, 31 Aug 1998, Hr. Jochen Stenzel wrote:
> My speculation is that exit() is executed first, than
> the program scope is closed which causes DESTROY() to be called, and ITS
> return code is finally passed to the shell. Is it done this way?
I think that what you're seeing is that, after exit is called, the special
$? variable has the exit code. Your routine may modify this code if it
chooses. If you don't wish to modify it by accident, you may wish to use
local(). Hope this helps!
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Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1998 15:26:38 GMT
From: Tom Phoenix <rootbeer@teleport.com>
Subject: Re: Download scipt with questions
Message-Id: <Pine.GSO.4.02A.9808310822470.26370-100000@user2.teleport.com>
On Mon, 31 Aug 1998, Orlando Frooninckx wrote:
> # In stead of having the name of the file
> # I want to download in the "save file as" box, it returns the name
> # of the script. So in stead of for instance having "test.exe" or
> # "download.zip" in the "save file as" box, it always has
> # "dlscript.pl" in that box.
It sounds as if you're trying to get a browser to do something. Perhaps
the docs, FAQs, and newsgroups about browsers and related issues would be
able to help you.
> open(OUTFILE, "$ENV{'QUERY_STRING'}");
Those quote marks are merely misleading. Also, even when your script is
"just an example" (and perhaps especially in that case!) you should
_always_ check the return value after opening a file. And the name OUTFILE
may be misleading, since you're opening it for input.
Hope this helps!
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Date: 31 Aug 1998 15:03:08 GMT
From: gbacon@itsc.uah.edu (Greg Bacon)
Subject: fast fork problem (was: Re: session id)
Message-Id: <6sedvc$qrj$5@info.uah.edu>
In article <6s6t43$9bs$1@monet.op.net>,
mjd@op.net (Mark-Jason Dominus) writes:
: $sess_id = time . ".$$';
:
: This will fail if your system the same process ID number more than
: once in the same second.
I've seen lots of programs that make the assumption that
C<time . ".$$"> will be unique. I remember Jarkko writing on p5p that
he'd like to see the machine that is capable of 64 Kforks/second. Is
this something that should be guaranteed? If so, how? By increasing
NPROC? Otherwise, is there a better way to generate unique IDs?
Greg
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bull.
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Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1998 11:40:45 -0500
From: "Jonathan A. Laub" <lakesoft@skypoint.com>
Subject: Re: fast fork problem (was: Re: session id)
Message-Id: <6sejsf$k0d$1@shadow.skypoint.net>
I just created a little increment counter that goes up to 8 places (1000000)
and that numeric became the prefix for the unique drop file. Seems to be
holding okay so far.
Jonathan
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Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1998 16:02:44 GMT
From: Elaine -HappyFunBall- Ashton <eashton@bbnplanet.com>
Subject: Re: GD.pm
Message-Id: <35EAC6D0.E10CA778@bbnplanet.com>
> >Ok, I am not that good at perl, or probly unix, but her is my problem,
> >I downloaded gd.pm, seams to be a bunch of files, I cant compile them,
> >is there a realy simple way for me just to download a file, and stick
> >it in the same dir as my cgi's and be able to make an image counter?
> >
>
> Does "I cant compile them" mean you don't know how to compile them (in
> which case you should read the sensibly named file README) or that you
> dont have a compiler on your system (which is a crime that your vendor
> ought to be shot for) or that your compiler doesnt work properly (in
> which case you or your SysAdmin should be shot).
>
hey, no shooting of sysadmins here...just because it doesn't work
'properly'
doesn't mean that its broken. compilers are probably the one thing that
always work on a system. users are so silly. :)
from the readme.
3. To compile GD.pm on a system that supports dynamic linking:
a. cd GD-1.18
b. perl Makefile.PL
c. make
d. make install
This will create GD.pm and copy it and its dynamically loadable
module
GD.so into the Perl library tree. You'll need root privileges
to do
the install step.
do perl -v to make sure you have perl 5.003 or better.
installs like buttah for me.
e.
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Date: 31 Aug 1998 16:11:10 GMT
From: abigail@fnx.com (Abigail)
Subject: Re: How do I get server-side includes to work with IIS?
Message-Id: <6sehuu$d6k$2@client3.news.psi.net>
Wayne Cochrane (wcochrane@pobox.com) wrote on MDCCCXXVI September
MCMXCIII in <URL: news:FQuG1.7$po.175648@sapphire.mtt.net>:
++ How do I get server-side includes to work with IIS? Is this in the default
++ install or do I need something else?
You're in the wrong newsgroup. We're discussing sandpainting here.
You want to go to rec.martial-artis.tickling.
Abigail
--
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Date: 31 Aug 1998 16:12:55 GMT
From: abigail@fnx.com (Abigail)
Subject: Re: How do you prompt a user for data?
Message-Id: <6sei27$d6k$3@client3.news.psi.net>
Peter Bismuti (bismuti@dirac.scri.fsu.edu) wrote on MDCCCXXVI September
MCMXCIII in <URL: news:6sd7hs$v$1@news.fsu.edu>:
++
++ I have a few books on PERL, but I don't seem to be able to
++ find an example of how you can prompt a user for input.
++ In Fortran, if you type:
++
++ read(*,*) input
++
++ the program will pause until the user enters in a value
++ and hits the return key. How can I get the same
++ functionality out of perl?
Prompting for input is nothing more than printing output and
reading input. Both of them are explained in the manual, and
any beginners book on Perl.
Abigail
--
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Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1998 11:37:40 -0500
From: "Jonathan A. Laub" <lakesoft@skypoint.com>
Subject: how does one delete a file with Perl?
Message-Id: <6sejmk$jve$1@shadow.skypoint.net>
is there a "delete" file command in Perl?
Thanks
Jon
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Date: 31 Aug 1998 16:46:15 GMT
From: mike@stok.co.uk (Mike Stok)
Subject: Re: how does one delete a file with Perl?
Message-Id: <6sek0n$4rj@news-central.tiac.net>
In article <6sejmk$jve$1@shadow.skypoint.net>,
Jonathan A. Laub <lakesoft@skypoint.com> wrote:
>is there a "delete" file command in Perl?
There's unlink which does what many people want when they want to delete a
file (on a typical unix file system it is possible to have many directory
entries which "point" to a file, unlink removes a directory entry, and if
it's the last one refering to the file then it deletes the file too.)
perldoc -f unlink
should help you out.
Hope this helps,
Mike
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Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1998 16:34:36 GMT
From: tech_support9@geocities.com
Subject: Re: How to extract first letter in string?
Message-Id: <6sejas$l4i$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com>
To expand on this a bit, what if I wanted to search out a keyword, within a
string, or text file, and change that keyword to something else, like make it
BOLD faced before displaying it to the page?
How would you write this? Use split?
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Date: 31 Aug 1998 16:42:25 GMT
From: randy@theory.uwinnipeg.ca (Randy Kobes)
Subject: Re: Installation Problem on redhat linux
Message-Id: <slrn6ull2t.or.randy@theory.uwinnipeg.ca>
On Sat, 29 Aug 1998 23:03:50 GMT,
rknig@my-dejanews.com <rknig@my-dejanews.com> wrote:
>I am trying to compile perl version 5.004_04. The configure script runs fine
>but when I type make I get the following error:
>
>[perl5.004_04]$ make
>makefile:441: *** missing separator. Stop.
>
Hi,
As well as checking for perhaps using a DOS-type makefile,
I've also seen this error after I've edited by hand a Makfile
and the editor silently wrapped some long lines, which confused
make. Maybe check the makefile for such occurrences?
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Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1998 15:58:31 GMT
From: Tom Phoenix <rootbeer@teleport.com>
Subject: Re: mail relay check
Message-Id: <Pine.GSO.4.02A.9808310857460.26370-100000@user2.teleport.com>
On Mon, 31 Aug 1998, Vladimir Bormotov wrote:
> How check exist mail relay for given e-mail address, or not?
Perhaps you want to check the docs, FAQs, and newsgroups about email. Hope
this helps!
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Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1998 12:17:17 -0400
From: John Porter <jdporter@min.net>
Subject: Re: Max value in an array
Message-Id: <35E97B0D.103@min.net>
Tom Christiansen wrote:
>
> In comp.lang.perl.misc, abigail@fnx.com writes:
> :Oh, so now void context isn't a special case of scalar context anymore?
>
> Sure it is.
Useful answer, Tom.
Care to comment on Abigail's suggestion that map in void context is
a case of list in scalar context?
--
John Porter
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Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1998 16:08:23 GMT
From: mike_miller@my-dejanews.com
Subject: MLDBM reference confusion
Message-Id: <6sehpn$j6k$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com>
When I store hash data in a file via the MLDBM package under ActiveState
5.00502, I seem to need one extra dereference to retrieve the data. For
example:
my (%o, %local_copy, $id);
use MLDBM qw(DB_File Storable);
tie %o, 'MLDBM', 'Filex' or die $!;
$id = 1;
$local_copy = $o{$id};
print "Dumping contents of record\n";
use Data::Dumper;
print Data::Dumper->Dump([%o->{$id}], [id]);
print "original local_copy{text} was ", $local_copy{text}, "\n";
print "original local_copy->{text} was ", $local_copy->{text}, "\n";
$local_copy{text} = 'Some text here';
print 'local_copy{text} is ', $local_copy{text}, "\n";
print 'local_copy->text is ', $local_copy->{text}, "\n";
$o{$id} = \%local_copy;
My question involves why $local_copy->{text} is needed on the retrieval,
instead of just $local_copy{text}. I suspect it has something to do with the
way serialization is occurring. Any insights?
Thanks,
Mike
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Date: 31 Aug 1998 15:27:56 GMT
From: Greg Bacon <gbacon@cs.uah.edu>
Subject: New posters to comp.lang.perl.misc
Message-Id: <6sefds$qrj$8@info.uah.edu>
Following is a summary of articles from new posters spanning a 7 day
period, beginning at 24 Aug 1998 14:32:19 GMT and ending at
31 Aug 1998 07:07:16 GMT.
Notes
=====
- A line in the body of a post is considered to be original if it
does *not* match the regular expression /^\s{0,3}(?:>|:|\S+>|\+\+)/.
- All text after the last cut line (/^-- $/) in the body is
considered to be the author's signature.
- The scanner prefers the Reply-To: header over the From: header
in determining the "real" e-mail address and name.
- Original Content Rating (OCR) is the ratio of the original content
volume to the total body volume.
- Find the News-Scan distribution on the CPAN!
<URL:http://www.perl.com/CPAN/modules/by-module/News/>
- Please send all comments to Greg Bacon <gbacon@cs.uah.edu>.
- Copyright (c) 1998 Greg Bacon. All Rights Reserved.
Verbatim copying and redistribution is permitted without royalty;
alteration is not permitted. Redistribution and/or use for any
commercial purpose is prohibited.
Totals
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Posters: 271 (49.6% of all posters)
Articles: 448 (25.4% of all articles)
Volume generated: 721.3 kb (23.7% of total volume)
- headers: 309.6 kb (6,118 lines)
- bodies: 390.2 kb (11,991 lines)
- original: 290.9 kb (9,321 lines)
- signatures: 21.0 kb (476 lines)
Original Content Rating: 0.746
Averages
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Posts per poster: 1.7
median: 1 post
mode: 1 post - 204 posters
s: 2.6 posts
Message size: 1648.8 bytes
- header: 707.8 bytes (13.7 lines)
- body: 891.9 bytes (26.8 lines)
- original: 665.0 bytes (20.8 lines)
- signature: 48.1 bytes (1.1 lines)
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33 62.6 ( 25.8/ 32.6/ 21.8) No.unsoiliciteds@dead.end (Norman UNsoliciteds)
16 20.0 ( 13.3/ 6.7/ 6.6) mee@mine.com
14 25.9 ( 9.7/ 14.1/ 6.2) Ala Qumsieh <aqumsieh@tigre.matrox.com>
9 13.3 ( 5.0/ 8.3/ 4.4) simple@nanospace.com
7 10.5 ( 4.3/ 5.2/ 5.0) Benjamin Low <b.d.low@unsw.edu.au>
7 6.7 ( 5.3/ 1.4/ 1.4) "Todd B" <NOTHANKStbeaulieu@mediaone.net>
6 8.6 ( 3.7/ 4.8/ 3.9) Paul Worthington <prw@evolving.com>
5 7.7 ( 3.4/ 3.5/ 2.1) wdr1@pobox.com (William D. Reardon)
5 15.6 ( 3.6/ 10.5/ 4.2) John Goerzen <jgoerzen+usenet@complete.org>
5 7.9 ( 4.3/ 1.8/ 0.9) Vincent Lowe <vincent@compclass.com>
These posters accounted for 6.1% of all articles.
Top 10 Posters by Volume
========================
(kb) (kb) (kb) (kb)
Volume ( hdr/ body/ orig) Posts Address
-------------------------- ----- -------
62.6 ( 25.8/ 32.6/ 21.8) 33 No.unsoiliciteds@dead.end (Norman UNsoliciteds)
25.9 ( 9.7/ 14.1/ 6.2) 14 Ala Qumsieh <aqumsieh@tigre.matrox.com>
20.0 ( 13.3/ 6.7/ 6.6) 16 mee@mine.com
17.3 ( 1.1/ 16.2/ 11.0) 2 rknig@my-dejanews.com
15.6 ( 3.6/ 10.5/ 4.2) 5 John Goerzen <jgoerzen+usenet@complete.org>
13.3 ( 5.0/ 8.3/ 4.4) 9 simple@nanospace.com
12.0 ( 0.7/ 11.3/ 11.0) 1 Steve Durst <sdurst@sprintmail.com>
10.5 ( 4.3/ 5.2/ 5.0) 7 Benjamin Low <b.d.low@unsw.edu.au>
9.6 ( 0.8/ 8.8/ 8.8) 1 Nick Glencross <nickg@glencros.demon.co.uk>
8.6 ( 3.7/ 4.8/ 3.9) 6 Paul Worthington <prw@evolving.com>
These posters accounted for 6.4% of the total volume.
Top 10 Posters by OCR (minimum of three posts)
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(kb) (kb)
OCR orig / body Posts Address
----- -------------- ----- -------
1.000 ( 1.4 / 1.4) 7 "Todd B" <NOTHANKStbeaulieu@mediaone.net>
1.000 ( 1.2 / 1.2) 4 DAVID PIZZO <david.pizzo@West.sun.com>
0.988 ( 6.6 / 6.7) 16 mee@mine.com
0.982 ( 4.5 / 4.6) 4 David Coppit <dwc3q@mamba.cs.virginia.edu>
0.967 ( 5.0 / 5.2) 7 Benjamin Low <b.d.low@unsw.edu.au>
0.965 ( 2.1 / 2.2) 3 Gregor Mosheh <gregor@novoironlight.com>
0.811 ( 3.9 / 4.8) 6 Paul Worthington <prw@evolving.com>
0.792 ( 2.8 / 3.6) 3 Jose Cuervo <jcrowe@io.com>
0.783 ( 2.3 / 3.0) 3 "vip" <vip@takas.lt>
0.755 ( 3.3 / 4.3) 4 robertrose@my-dejanews.com
Bottom 10 Posters by OCR (minimum of three posts)
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(kb) (kb)
OCR orig / body Posts Address
----- -------------- ----- -------
0.567 ( 0.8 / 1.5) 4 Bruce Barnett <see.my.address.below@domain.com>
0.561 ( 1.6 / 2.9) 3 Leon Brocard <l.brocard@elsevier.nl>
0.557 ( 2.0 / 3.5) 4 Wade Holst <wade@cs.ualberta.ca>
0.536 ( 4.4 / 8.3) 9 simple@nanospace.com
0.492 ( 1.3 / 2.7) 4 Dave Wreski <dave@nic.com>
0.478 ( 0.9 / 1.8) 5 Vincent Lowe <vincent@compclass.com>
0.454 ( 0.8 / 1.9) 3 "David" <ceci@bway.net>
0.443 ( 2.4 / 5.4) 3 duke@co.kittitas.wa.us (Duke)
0.437 ( 6.2 / 14.1) 14 Ala Qumsieh <aqumsieh@tigre.matrox.com>
0.403 ( 4.2 / 10.5) 5 John Goerzen <jgoerzen+usenet@complete.org>
25 posters (9%) had at least three posts.
Top 10 Crossposters
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Articles Address
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17 peterp@netteens.com
17 thorsten@pixel-gmbh.de
17 "John H. Cato, Jr." <jcato@accessatc.net>
8 Mick B <bellears@deakin.edu.au>
7 "Issam W. Alameh" <issam@qtel.com.qa>
4 Thornton Prime <thornton@yoyoweb.com>
4 Bruce Barnett <see.my.address.below@domain.com>
3 Gregor Mosheh <gregor@novoironlight.com>
3 wmcclatc@primenet.com (Bill)
3 Stefan Wimmer <swimmer@rto.dec.com>
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Date: 31 Aug 1998 16:13:45 GMT
From: abigail@fnx.com (Abigail)
Subject: Re: Perl "<!--#exec" with IIS, How?
Message-Id: <6sei3p$d6k$4@client3.news.psi.net>
Wayne Cochrane (wcochrane@pobox.com) wrote on MDCCCXXVI September
MCMXCIII in <URL: news:LOuG1.6$po.175265@sapphire.mtt.net>:
++ Can I issue the line below on an IIS server running Perl?
Djee, didn't you already ask that question?
Abigail
--
perl -e '$a = q 94a75737420616e6f74686572205065726c204861636b65720a9 and
${qq$\x5F$} = q 97265646f9 and s g..g;
qq e\x63\x68\x72\x20\x30\x78$&eggee;
{eval if $a =~ s e..eqq qprint chr 0x$& and \x71\x20\x71\x71qeexcess}'
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Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1998 16:09:29 GMT
From: Elaine -HappyFunBall- Ashton <eashton@bbnplanet.com>
Subject: Re: Perl and apache
Message-Id: <35EAC865.99EE1FA@bbnplanet.com>
> >How do I get my new Unix Apache web server install to recognize perl
> >extensions? Do I type something in mime.types? What?
>
> You're asking in the wrong newsgroup. There are news groups devoted to web
> servers - I'd try them.
well, perl was in the subject - be a good sport. hes either asking how
to
get apache to reconise perl as a cgi type (http://www.apache.org) or
asking
how to use the ever so cool mod_perl for apache. either way, apache has
great documentation so you shouldn't be too lost...also, the oreilly
apache
book is terrific ,if a bit outdated, for getting a quick clue.
enjoy. i love apache.
e.
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Date: 30 Aug 1998 15:13:08 -0400
From: mdennist@dekalb.dc.peachnet.edu (Michael L Denniston,CD108C SCIE,299-4097,3)
Subject: Re: Perl Cookbook, does anyone have it?
Message-Id: <6sc884$me9@gpc.gpc.peachnet.edu>
In a previous article, admin@kewl.com.au ("Craig Nuttall") says:
>
>Owen Cook <rcook@pcug.org.au> wrote in message
>35e83428.805397@newshost.pcug.org.au...
>>On Wed, 26 Aug 1998 19:14:05 GMT, ptimmins@netserv.unmc.edu
>(Patrick
>>Timmins) wrote:
>>
>>Guess it will never get to Australia
>>
>>
>>Owen
>
>Fear not, I have a copy on order from a Brisbane distributor and
>they assure me that the new version will be available early
>September........... but the Aust. price will be a killer for
>some......... $89 if memory serves correctly :-(
>
>Anyways....... My library of O'Reilly books has been well worth
>the investment and I doubt that the cookbook will be any less
>than well worth the money :-)
>
>Craig
>
>
>
************************
I ordered a copy from Amazon last week; they are knocking a few bucks off
the $39.95 [US] price. As of that point, it was back ordered, but there
must be lots of interest; it was #256 on their best seller list.
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<> ML Denniston, Assoc Prof, Chemistry <>
<> Georgia Perimeter College CCC2160 <>
<> 555 N. Indian Creek Dr., Clarkston, GA 30021 <>
<> Phone [404]-299-4097, 298-3913 FAX [404]-298-3833 <>
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Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1998 07:55:37 -0700
From: lr@hpl.hp.com (Larry Rosler)
Subject: Re: PERL is horrible
Message-Id: <MPG.1054593ef8ccbb2c989819@nntp.hpl.hp.com>
[Posted to comp.lang.perl.misc and copy mailed.]
In article <6secal$m2o$1@eros.clara.net> on Mon, 31 Aug 1998 15:28:31
+0100, Jules <julius@clara.net> says...
...
> I'm struggling to understand Larry Wall and the lot, on the camel book Programming Perl published by
> O'Reilly. Is there any other "dummy" or "die unless $jules =~ s/java_mind/perl_mind/g" book on Perl
> which is good? I think I will need that. =(
>From <URL:http://www.perl.com> (actually, from the link at the bottom,
until they go back to their regular format from the Perl Conference
stuff), you will find a link 'Books and Magazines' to book reviews and
recommendations. The book for novices that most people here recommend is
'Learning Perl', ISBN: 1-56592-284-0, by Randal L. Schwartz and Tom
Christiansen.
BTW, set your newsreader to wrap lines at 72 characters in the future.
--
(Just Another Larry) Rosler
Hewlett-Packard Laboratories
http://www.hpl.hp.com/personal/Larry_Rosler/
lr@hpl.hp.com
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Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1998 08:01:31 -0700
From: lr@hpl.hp.com (Larry Rosler)
Subject: Re: PERL is horrible
Message-Id: <MPG.10545aa6ff5168e698981a@nntp.hpl.hp.com>
In article <6secrs$t7m@news-central.tiac.net> on 31 Aug 1998 14:44:12
GMT, Mike Stok <mike@stok.co.uk> says...
> In article <6secal$m2o$1@eros.clara.net>, Jules <julius@clara.net> wrote:
> >Dear all, I'm a newbie in perl and I find it absolutely terrifying. I
> >know C++ and Java, ......
...
> Programming Perl is more of a reference book than a tutorial, maybe you
> should consider Learning Perl by Randal Schwartz and Tom Christiansen (or
> Learning Perl on Win32 if you're on a Win32 system) whic are published bu
> O'Reilly - see http://www.oreilly.com
Having already recommended that, I would add that -- as you profess to be
an experienced programmer -- you might well find the book 'Perl, the
Programmer's Companion' by Nigel Chapman (John Wiley & Sons) to meet your
needs best. My one-word review for this book is 'delightful'. You will
no longer think that 'Perl is horrible'.
--
(Just Another Larry) Rosler
Hewlett-Packard Laboratories
http://www.hpl.hp.com/personal/Larry_Rosler/
lr@hpl.hp.com
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