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Re: SIPB Installer Bugs: Custom Install

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Garry Zacheiss)
Thu Oct 12 10:20:50 2000

Message-Id: <200010121420.KAA12302@hodge-podge.mit.edu>
To: Derek Atkins <warlord@MIT.EDU>
cc: Camilla R Fox <cfox@MIT.EDU>, Alex Coventry <alex_c@MIT.EDU>,
        linux-dev@MIT.EDU
In-Reply-To: Your message of "12 Oct 2000 10:05:46 EDT."
             <sjmy9zuxih1.fsf@rcn.ihtfp.org> 
Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 10:20:38 -0400
From: Garry Zacheiss <zacheiss@MIT.EDU>

>> I'm sorry, but I can't agree with this.  SIPB can not and SHOULD not
>> be constrained by what owls pledges I/S support.

   We do, however, have to keep in mind that work we do on Athena ports
can and will increase I/S support costs if we do our work poorly, and if
OLC or the Faculty Liason's spend enough of their time having to clean
up after our mess, I/S is within it's rights telling us to take our ball
and go home.

>> Previous SIPB RedHat-Athena installers had custom installs, and it was
>> never a problem.

   Previous Linux-Athena efforts also never made any effort to deal with
the notion of autoupdate, with the exception of the update.pl script in
the Linux locker which gained a reputation for being a great way to
reduce your workstation to a pile of smoldering rubble.

>> Um, why?  IMHO, this complicates the install needlessly.

   Attempts to build a custom install floppy have thus far failed,
cf. the mail Sam was sending to kcr.  If you'd like to help out and
build a custom floppy, feel free.   I feel that a custom floppy probably
is a requirement for an actual release, but keep in mind we're still in
beta.

>> > way to go.  There are Red Hat mirrors on faster subnets than the SIPB
>> > server subnet, and I don't see what we'd be adding to the community by
>> > running a redhat mirror.
>> 
>> There are?  Where?

   rufus.w3.org, if you're willing to consider that at MIT (it is on net
18).

>> I would think that Athena would be interested in this as well.  Does
>> mkserv even EXIST in Linux-Athena?

   Yes, I added the support for Linux to mkserv myself, and made mkserv
remote, discuss, mail, and print supported for Linux machines.  If there
is a desire for other services, I've yet to hear it (I am aware of a
desire for "mkserv web", and am thinking about it).

Garry


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