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Windows NT rollout issues from the CAO point of view

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Rob Smyser)
Wed Jun 11 16:37:11 1997

Date: Wed, 11 Jun 1997 16:35:27 -0400
To: winnt@MIT.EDU
From: Rob Smyser <smyser@MIT.EDU>
Cc: Carol Van Aken <vanaken@mitvma.mit.edu>,
        Bil Huxley <HUXLEY@MITVMC.MIT.EDU>,
        David Hardy <TOONCES%MITVMC.bitnet@mitvma.mit.edu>

Hi all, the attached is the CAO response to the survey of issues we sent
out a while back.  One key item in there I'd like us to address, that of
FTP.

Apparently CAO apps like to ftp things to your PC.  I have never seen
SumMIT run so I don't know what it really does, but I guess it anonymous
ftp's to the PC.  On Win3.1 I suppose the server is the one that comes with
LanWorkplace; on the Mac maybe it's part of ncsa telnet?  In any event,
what should we suggest people do who have NT and need to serve ftp?  Is
using Peer Web Services good enough (if setup instructions were clear)?

Likewise for a graphical ftp client.  IS now sanctions and delivers Fetch
for the mac and Rapid Filer for the Mac.  What32-bit ftp client can IS
sanction and have on net-dist somewhere?
We ought to have an answer in place by the end of June.  Please send your
thoughts to the list.

Thanks!
   Rob

- - - - - - - -
Hi,

I'm sorry it took so long to put together the following response to your
questionaire. We've been snowed under in CAO.

I'm responding to the questionaire below for the Controller's Accounting
Office.

>1. What are your remaining concerns about the impact of NT on
>   desktops across the Institute?

    SumMIT & its satellite applications (ESandi, ETime, JV, TELECOM, SumPROP)
    do not function well under Windows NT at this time.

    Added notes from Dave Hardy:

     Needing to upgrade machine speed and memory size.  My experience
     indicates that NT does not run well on a P75 with 16MB.  Increasing
     the memory to 32MB is probably required and a faster machine would
     help.

>2. What would be on your list of specific "Do <this>" and
>   "Don't Do <that>" about installing or using NT?

    If you rely on SumMIT or any of its satellite applications do not
    install NT until we have a 32 bit application.

>3. What needs to be delivered along with NT to really integrate
>   it into effective desktop computing in the office?

    A 32 bit SumMIT, which won't be ready for wide spread use for 3 to
    6 months

    Added notes from Dave Hardy:

     32-bit equivalents of the Lan WorkPlace applications, especially
     an FTP server.  There are some shareware versions but MIT should
     site-license one and distribute it.

>4. Are there critical applications you know of that would
>   prevent you from using NT on the Desktop at this time?

    SumMIT

    Added note from Dave Hardy: Serving FTP

>5. What is on your list of Really Useful Tricks to set up NT well?
>   How would you deal with the issue of accounts and privileges?

    Notes from Dave Hardy:

     Memory.  Lots and lots of memory.  16MB is not enough even though
     some documentation states that 16MB is a minimum.  Any user that
     does any sort of programming will need to be an Administrator.
     "User" priveleges might be ok for those machines where the user
     just interacts with pre-programmed applications.

>6. What publications does I/S need to produce to meet your Support
>   requirements?

    Notes from Dave Hardy:

     Detailed information on the Registry, how it works, what info gets
     put there by what programs, how to modify, etc... This is much less
     intuitive than the typical DOS/Windows 3.1 environment variables.

>7. What kind of Training if any do you need on NT?

    None.

>8. How would you set up or change the rollout process for supporting
>   this and other commercial software packages at MIT?

    Warn SumMIT users to hold off on upgrading to Windows NT until
    we have a 32 bit SumMIT ready for distribtution.

>9. What should we know about your specific NT implementation
>   needs that we didn't ask here?  (such as: Mission critical applications
>   you expect will run on NT? or other unique requirements?)

    Nothing.

>10. Would you be willing to meet individually with members of the
>    team to address your concerns in more detail?

     Sure.

Carolyn

Carolyn Fuller                                         M.I.T.
fuller@mit.edu                             Controller's Accounting Office
http://www.mit.edu/people/fuller/            Senior Analyst/Programmer
                                                  (617) 253-6213

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	I/S Computing Help Desk, MIT, 11-226, 617.253.1358
	smyser@mit.edu



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