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Re: Mutt?
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (John Hawkinson)
Mon Mar 9 02:44:29 2009
Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 02:42:31 -0400
From: John Hawkinson <jhawk@MIT.EDU>
To: Evan Broder <broder@MIT.EDU>
Cc: Shreevatsa R <vatsa@MIT.EDU>, testers@MIT.EDU, bug-sipb@MIT.EDU
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bug-sipb@ please, not gsipbbin.
I will rebuild mutt mon Monday afternoon.
And I owed Greg Price an upgrade from December or something, too.
We'll see about that, with a less aggressive rebuild commitment.
--jhawk
Evan Broder <broder@MIT.EDU> wrote on Mon, 9 Mar 2009
at 01:03:16 -0400 in <49B4A314.6040804@mit.edu>:
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> Date: Mon, 09 Mar 2009 01:03:16 -0400
> From: Evan Broder <broder@MIT.EDU>
> To: Shreevatsa R <vatsa@mit.edu>
> CC: testers@mit.edu
> Subject: Re: Mutt?
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> Hi Shreevatsa -
> Sorry to hear that mutt doesn't work on the Debathena Beta systems.
> It definitely sounds like its just a matter of recompiling them to link
> against newer libraries. I'll ask the maintainers of the sipb locker if
> they can do that.
>
> I think in general I'd be fine with putting mutt in the release, but
> ideally I'd like to also provide some modicum of configuration. I don't
> use mutt myself, so I'm not really sure where to start, but do you think
> you could come up with a config file snippet to configure mutt for MIT
> e-mail? (Or alternatively, would one of the other mutt users on this
> list like to come up with such a snippet?)
>
> As for the system notifications, there are a couple of issues here.
> First, to address the direct cause, we pushed an update earlier today
> that should get rid of the apt-file cache notification. We'll probably
> be attacking some of those other notifications over the next month.
>
> I will point out that you are actually a sudoer on Debathena, and you
> can su, as the root password is the same as under Athena 9. However, any
> changes made to the system during your login session are temporary, and
> are undone when you log out, so there's not really much point to taking
> system updates anyway.
>
> - Evan
>
> Shreevatsa R wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I just used a Debathena Beta cluster machine today, and when I try to
> > start my favourite email-client (mutt), this happens:
> >
> > ~$ mutt
> > mutt: error while loading shared libraries: libssl.so.0.9.7: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
> >
> > I guess this is because mutt is
> >
> > ~$ type -p mutt
> > /mit/sipb/arch/i386_rhel4/bin/mutt
> >
> > and it's just not built for Debathena. Could you make mutt part of the
> > default release? :)
> >
> > Another issue I noticed with Debathena Beta is that it shows me
> > notifications about updating the apt cache etc. (update-notifier),
> > which as a non-root/non-sudo user I'm not in a position to do
> > anything about. I removed it from System->Preferences->Sessions,
> > but it would be good to not show it to users by default.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Shreevatsa
> >
Evan Broder <broder@MIT.EDU> wrote on Mon, 9 Mar 2009
at 01:07:20 -0400 in <49B4A408.1090205@mit.edu>:
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> Date: Mon, 09 Mar 2009 01:07:20 -0400
> From: Evan Broder <broder@MIT.EDU>
> To: gsipbbin@mit.edu
> Subject: Mutt on Debathena
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> It seems that mutt no longer runs on Lenny/Intrepid systems thanks to
> shared library versioning.
>
> Is anybody willing to rebuild mutt (and possibly other utilities from
> the locker) for the i386_deb50 sysname? i386_deb50 refers to Debian
> Lenny or Ubuntu Intrepid/Jaunty. Examples of i386_deb50 machines on
> campus include Linerva and any of the Debathena Beta cluster machines
> scattered around campus.
>
> I'd offer to do it myself, but I don't really understand how exactly the
> sipb locker build system works.
>
> Thanks,
> - Evan
>
> Shreevatsa R wrote:
> > I just used a Debathena Beta cluster machine today, and when I try to
> > start my favourite email-client (mutt), this happens:
> >
> > ~$ mutt
> > mutt: error while loading shared libraries: libssl.so.0.9.7: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
> >
> > I guess this is because mutt is
> >
> > ~$ type -p mutt
> > /mit/sipb/arch/i386_rhel4/bin/mutt
> >
> > and it's just not built for Debathena. Could you make mutt part of the
> > default release? :)