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daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU)
Wed Nov 14 12:45:08 1990

From: deevans@ATHENA.MIT.EDU
Date: Wed, 14 Nov 90 12:44:39 -0500
To: testers@ATHENA.MIT.EDU


Nice job on the new login running on the test machines in W20.   A
definite improvement.   A couple things ---

	o When I run something from the other options (anything I
		believe, I've tried xcluster) after exiting a console
		will appear with the error message:

		console: error 13: opening /usr/tmp/console.log

		I'm assuming that this is because wihtout logging in
		and getting kerberos there is no way to write the file
		to /usr/tmp.   It would be nice if this could be fixed,
		although it is a minor annoyance.

	o A useful "Other Option" would be to check the postoffice if
		you have mail.   Enter your username (maybe passwd if
		you think privacy is an issue) and it tells you how
		many messages you have.  It would be even better if
		you could actually read your mail without doing a
		complete login, but this would understandably take
		some doing.

	o The new "unactive" screen seems a bit excessive...I thought
		the point of deactivating was to save machine processes.
		I don't know of the stats, but if this doesn't why not
		just leave the login up all the time. 

	o Quick login...perhaps should xrdb - load ~/.Xresource.  In
		my case, at least, it is annoying having both zephyrs
		and my only xterm in the same upper right corner.  If
		it doesn't take longer, it might be better for the
		average user to have the xterm in the lower left?

	o Time in login window is great, I just wich it would be removed
		from the console...but that's an old complaint.

	o It would be better if the menus also operated under the click
		once to get menu, click again to make choice, in
		addition to the hold and release method.  I find this
		a bit more intuitive, and with some of the mice you
		find on VAX II's the other way is awful tiresome.

	o A feedback message after selecting an option would be
		an improvement...staring at xsetroot -rv for a
		few minutes wondering if the right this is
		going on is a bit daunting.

	o Why the huge fonts on TechInfo, Barton, etc.?   I'd like
		the defaults to be -rv and regular fonts, but
		that's just a matter of preference.

	o Perhaps a timeout on Other Options...it may take a while
		for people to get used to these things running but
		no one being logged in when people leave without 
		quiting (after getting discouraged waiting for
		something to start...)


Overall a good job, though,

       --- Dave
	deevans@athena
	
	
		

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