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Gang,
Here's some lengthy IPM server hardware pricing info. I'd vote for
some sort of RAID disk (RAID 5 would be fine with me) for any/all
IPM production servers. Past experiences indicate the RAID protection
for disks is well worth the minimal additional cost.
-Dave
----------------------------Original message----------------------------
David, what you see below is not that confusing. I copied 2 notes into
this note and added this paragraph. The first note is the original
response I received before going to Boulder for an IPM configuration. The
second note was in response to my request for beefing up the servers in the
first
note, even more. i.e. increase the memory size of the largest server in
the first
note to 512MB, and to include an even bigger processor that has a greater
ability
to be expanded (more slots for expansion), also with 512MB. I like the
F50 as it
is the most flexible. It is far more than you need if we are only going
to drive
the two 3160's from VM however. jb
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To: Jeff Banta/Waltham/Contr/IBM
cc:
From: Steve Lawton/Providence/IBM@ibmus
Subject: MIT Configurations
Jeff,
I hate giving customers multiple configurations/options. I like to usually
just give them one recommendation as not to confuse them. I figured I'd
run the following configurations by you first, then we can decide which to
send to the customer. The first is the 7043-150 and is the cheapest
scenario here. The second is the 170 and the third is the 270. Here's a
quick list of caveats, followed by actual configurations:
7043-150 - $10,195
- can upgrade to 3 total disk drives using an optional media/disk bay.
Currently 9.1GB and 18.2GB disk drives supported.
- can upgrade memory to a total of 1GB (4 memory slots @ 256MB cards).
- has 375MHz Processor with no upgrade options.
7044-170 - $12,055
- can upgrade 332Mhz Processor to a 400MHz Processor.
- can upgrade to total of 4 disk drives using optional media/disk bay.
- can upgrade memory to a maximum of 2GB (2 memory slots @ 1GB cards).
7044-270 - $18,555
- can upgrade from 1 up to 4 processors.
- can upgrade up to 3 disk drives using optional media/disk bay.
- can upgrade up to total of 8GB of memory (16 memory slots @ 512MB cards)
It's really difficult for me to choose any of these (or a different
machine) without knowing what we're looking for. Where are the potential
bottlenecks or inhibitors? I guess my question is, do these servers rely
on memory? disk? processing speed? Without knowing what the pre-req's are,
it;s difficult to make a recommendation. Let me know if you have any
questions, or if you want me to clean any of the following up, or make
changes, etc. Thanks.
MIT - 150
Date : 6 April 2000
********************************* HARDWARE
*********************************
Product Description Qty Purchase
Maint
7043-150 RS/6000 43P Model 150 1 2445
70 F
1.44MB 3.5-in Diskette Drive 1 N/C
Integrated Ultra SCSI Adapter 1 N/C
Integrated Ethernet Adapter 1 N/C
2624 32x Speed CD-ROM Drive 1 375
2830 POWER GXT130P Graphics Adapter 1 340
(PCI)
2908 9.1 GB 1" Ultra SCSI Hard Disk 1 1160
Drive
3627 P76 Color Monitor, Stealth 1 995
Black
4169 256 MB SDRAM DIMM, 168 Pin 1 1280
4348 375 MHz 604e PowerPC Processor 1 3375
5005 Preinstall 1 N/C
5520 Complete System Order 1 N/C
8700 Quiet Touch Keyboard, Stealth 1 100
Black - English (US)
8741 3-Button Mouse - Stealth Black 1 75
9300 Language - English (US) 1 N/C
9800 Power Cord - US/Canada (125V, 1 N/C
15A)
=========
======
7043-150 Price 10145
Monthly Maintenance
70
********************************* SOFTWARE
*********************************
Product Description Qty License
5765-C34 AIX Version 4 1 N/C
4061 AIX 4.3 1 N/C
5005 Preinstall 1 N/C
9001 Asset Registration 1 N/C
=========
5765-C34 OTC 0
5692-AIX System Software 1 N/C
0598 AIX Welcome Center 1 N/C
0838 AIX 4.3 Update CD 1 N/C
0857 AIX 4.3 1 N/C
0859 Preinstall AIX 4.3 Server 1 N/C
Bundle
0860 AIX 4.3 Bonus Pack - Non 1 N/C
Export.
1004 CD-ROM Process Charge 1 50
2924 English 1 N/C
3410 CD-ROM 1 N/C
5005 Preinstall 1 N/C
5924 AIX 4.3 PII - English 1 N/C
9001 Asset Registration 1 N/C
=========
5692-AIX OTC 50
******************************* GRAND TOTALS
*******************************
Hardware Price 10145
Software OTC 50
=========
Grand Total 10195
Monthly Maintenance
70
Type of Repair: F = 7 days x 24 hours on-site repair/exchange
P = 5 days x 9 hours on-site repair/exchange
D = Depot service
N/C - No Charge
W/D - Withdrawn
T&M - Time and Material
N/O - Not Offered
N/A - Price Not Available
*** - Price Not Available
g - GSA Price
MIT - 170
********************************* HARDWARE
*********************************
Product Description Qty Purchase
Maint
7044-170 RS/6000 44P Model 170 1 3400
65 F
1.44MB 3.5-in Diskette Drive 1 N/C
Integrated Ultra SCSI Adapter 1 N/C
Integrated External Ultra2 SCSI 1 N/C
Port
Integrated Ethernet Adapter 1 N/C
2624 32x Speed CD-ROM Drive 1 375
2830 POWER GXT130P Graphics Adapter 1 340
(PCI)
2908 9.1 GB 1" Ultra SCSI Hard Disk 1 1160
Drive
3627 P76 Color Monitor, Stealth 1 995
Black
4110 256 MB (2x128MB) SDRAM DIMMs 1 2560
4349 333MHz POWER3-II Processor Card 1 3000
5005 Preinstall 1 N/C
8700 Quiet Touch Keyboard, Stealth 1 100
Black - English (US)
8741 3-Button Mouse - Stealth Black 1 75
9300 Language - English (US) 1 N/C
9800 Power Cord - US/Canada (125V, 1 N/C
15A)
=========
======
7044-170 Price 12005
Monthly Maintenance
65
********************************* SOFTWARE
*********************************
Product Description Qty License
5765-C34 AIX Version 4 1 N/C
4061 AIX 4.3 1 N/C
5005 Preinstall 1 N/C
9001 Asset Registration 1 N/C
=========
5765-C34 OTC 0
5692-AIX System Software 1 N/C
0598 AIX Welcome Center 1 N/C
0838 AIX 4.3 Update CD 1 N/C
0857 AIX 4.3 1 N/C
0859 Preinstall AIX 4.3 Server 1 N/C
Bundle
0860 AIX 4.3 Bonus Pack - Non 1 N/C
Export.
1004 CD-ROM Process Charge 1 50
2924 English 1 N/C
3410 CD-ROM 1 N/C
5005 Preinstall 1 N/C
5924 AIX 4.3 PII - English 1 N/C
9001 Asset Registration 1 N/C
=========
5692-AIX OTC 50
******************************* GRAND TOTALS
*******************************
Hardware Price 12005
Software OTC 50
=========
Grand Total 12055
Monthly Maintenance
65
Type of Repair: F = 7 days x 24 hours on-site repair/exchange
P = 5 days x 9 hours on-site repair/exchange
D = Depot service
N/C - No Charge
W/D - Withdrawn
T&M - Time and Material
N/O - Not Offered
N/A - Price Not Available
*** - Price Not Available
g - GSA Price
MIT - 270
********************************* HARDWARE
*********************************
Product Description Qty Purchase
Maint
7044-270 RS/6000 44P Model 270 1 4762
70 F
1.44MB 3.5-in Diskette Drive 1 N/C
Integrated Ultra SCSI Adapter 1 N/C
Integrated External Ultra2 SCSI 1 N/C
Port
Integrated Ethernet Adapter 1 N/C
Service Processor 1 N/C
2624 32x Speed CD-ROM Drive 1 375
2830 POWER GXT130P Graphics Adapter 1 340
(PCI)
3029 9.1 GB 1" Ultra SCSI 16-bit 1 1260
Enhanced Hard Disk Drive
3627 P76 Color Monitor, Stealth 1 995
Black
4098 Memory Expansion Feature 1 1038
4110 256 MB (2x128MB) SDRAM DIMMs 1 2560
4361 1-way 375 MHz POWER3-II 1 7000
35 F
Processor, 4MB L2 Cache
5005 Preinstall 1 N/C
8700 Quiet Touch Keyboard, Stealth 1 100
Black - English (US)
8741 3-Button Mouse - Stealth Black 1 75
9300 Language - English (US) 1 N/C
9800 Power Cord - US/Canada (125V, 1 N/C
15A)
=========
======
7044-270 Price 18505
Monthly Maintenance
105
********************************* SOFTWARE
*********************************
Product Description Qty License
5765-C34 AIX Version 4 1 N/C
4061 AIX 4.3 1 N/C
5005 Preinstall 1 N/C
9001 Asset Registration 1 N/C
=========
5765-C34 OTC 0
5692-AIX System Software 1 N/C
0598 AIX Welcome Center 1 N/C
0838 AIX 4.3 Update CD 1 N/C
0857 AIX 4.3 1 N/C
0859 Preinstall AIX 4.3 Server 1 N/C
Bundle
0860 AIX 4.3 Bonus Pack - Non 1 N/C
Export.
1004 CD-ROM Process Charge 1 50
2924 English 1 N/C
3410 CD-ROM 1 N/C
5005 Preinstall 1 N/C
5924 AIX 4.3 PII - English 1 N/C
9001 Asset Registration 1 N/C
=========
5692-AIX OTC 50
******************************* GRAND TOTALS
*******************************
Hardware Price 18505
Software OTC 50
=========
Grand Total 18555
Monthly Maintenance
105
Type of Repair: F = 7 days x 24 hours on-site repair/exchange
P = 5 days x 9 hours on-site repair/exchange
D = Depot service
N/C - No Charge
W/D - Withdrawn
T&M - Time and Material
N/O - Not Offered
N/A - Price Not Available
*** - Price Not Available
g - GSA Price
Steve Lawton
RS/6000 Advisory Sales Specialist
IBM Corporation
781-895-2878 -- T/L 362-2878 -- slawton@us.ibm.com
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#2******************************************************************************
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To: Jeff Banta/Waltham/Contr/IBM
cc:
From: Steve Lawton/Providence/IBM@ibmus
Subject: MIT Configurations
Jeff,
Here is the redone MIT 270 configuration and an F50 configuration. Just as
a quick note on the F50. I ran it as a 2-Way System (2 332Mhz Processors).
If they only needed one processor, then the price would be $3000 less than
the final price below. The reason I added the 2-way is that if they
decided to purchase one processor, then upgrade it later to a 2-way, it
would cost $7000. Basically, it's a lot cheaper to just buy the 2-Way
processor. Let me know if you have any questions or if you need anything
else. Thanks.
MIT - 270
Date : 21 April 2000
The IBM Portable Configurator (TM) is classified for proposal usage only.
Commitments on prices and products should not be made without complete
verification with the sales manuals. Prices are for your information only
and are subject to change. Applicable taxes are not shown.
********************************* HARDWARE
*********************************
Product Description Qty Purchase
Maint
7044-270 RS/6000 44P Model 270 1 4762
70 F
1.44MB 3.5-in Diskette Drive 1 N/C
Integrated Ultra SCSI Adapter 1 N/C
Integrated External Ultra2 SCSI 1 N/C
Port
Integrated Ethernet Adapter 1 N/C
Service Processor 1 N/C
2624 32x Speed CD-ROM Drive 1 375
2830 POWER GXT130P Graphics Adapter 1 340
(PCI)
3029 9.1 GB 1" Ultra SCSI 16-bit 1 1260
Enhanced Hard Disk Drive
3627 P76 Color Monitor, Stealth 1 995
Black
4098 Memory Expansion Feature 1 1038
4119 512 MB (2x256MB) SDRAM DIMMs 1 5760
4361 1-way 375 MHz POWER3-II 1 7000
35 F
Processor, 4MB L2 Cache
5005 Preinstall 1 N/C
8700 Quiet Touch Keyboard, Stealth 1 100
Black - English (US)
8741 3-Button Mouse - Stealth Black 1 75
9300 Language - English (US) 1 N/C
9800 Power Cord - US/Canada (125V, 1 N/C
15A)
=========
======
7044-270 Price 21705
Monthly Maintenance
105
********************************* SOFTWARE
*********************************
Product Description Qty License
5765-C34 AIX Version 4 1 N/C
4061 AIX 4.3 1 N/C
5005 Preinstall 1 N/C
9001 Asset Registration 1 N/C
=========
5765-C34 OTC 0
5692-AIX System Software 1 N/C
0598 AIX Welcome Center 1 N/C
0838 AIX 4.3 Update CD 1 N/C
0857 AIX 4.3 1 N/C
0859 Preinstall AIX 4.3 Server 1 N/C
Bundle
0860 AIX 4.3 Bonus Pack - Non 1 N/C
Export.
1004 CD-ROM Process Charge 1 50
2924 English 1 N/C
3410 CD-ROM 1 N/C
5005 Preinstall 1 N/C
5924 AIX 4.3 PII - English 1 N/C
9001 Asset Registration 1 N/C
=========
5692-AIX OTC 50
******************************* GRAND TOTALS
*******************************
Hardware Price 21705
Software OTC 50
=========
Grand Total 21755
Monthly Maintenance
105
Type of Repair: F = 7 days x 24 hours on-site repair/exchange
P = 5 days x 9 hours on-site repair/exchange
D = Depot service
N/C - No Charge
W/D - Withdrawn
T&M - Time and Material
N/O - Not Offered
N/A - Price Not Available
*** - Price Not Available
g - GSA Price
____________________________________________________
MIT 7025-F50
Date : 21 April 2000
********************************* HARDWARE
*********************************
Product Description Qty Purchase
Maint
7025-F50 RS/6000 Model F50 1 13900
230 F
CD-ROM Drive 1 N/C
1.44MB 3.5-in Diskette Drive 1 N/C
Base SCSI 6-Pack 1 Kit 1 N/C
Integrated SCSI-2 F/W Adapter 1 1 N/C
Integrated SCSI-2 F/W Adapter 2 1 N/C
Integrated Ethernet Adapter 1 N/C
2830 POWER GXT130P Graphics Adapter 1 340
(PCI)
2919 9.1 GB 1" Ultra SCSI Disk Drive 1 N/C
Select
3627 P76 Color Monitor, Stealth 1 995
Black
4106 Select 256 MB (2x128MB) SDRAM 1 1280
DIMMs
4110 256 MB (2x128MB) SDRAM DIMMs 1 2560
4357 Select 2-Way 604e3 332MHz 1 3000
51 F
Processor Card, 2x256KB L2
Cache
5005 Preinstall 1 N/C
8700 Quiet Touch Keyboard, Stealth 1 100
Black - English (US)
8741 3-Button Mouse - Stealth Black 1 75
9300 Language - English (US) 1 N/C
9800 Power Cord - US/Canada (125V, 1 N/C
15A)
=========
======
7025-F50 Price 22250
Monthly Maintenance
281
********************************* SOFTWARE
*********************************
Product Description Qty License
5765-C34 AIX Version 4 1 N/C
4061 AIX 4.3 1 N/C
5005 Preinstall 1 N/C
9001 Asset Registration 1 N/C
=========
5765-C34 OTC 0
5692-AIX System Software 1 N/C
0598 AIX Welcome Center 1 N/C
0838 AIX 4.3 Update CD 1 N/C
0857 AIX 4.3 1 N/C
0859 Preinstall AIX 4.3 Server 1 N/C
Bundle
0860 AIX 4.3 Bonus Pack - Non 1 N/C
Export.
1004 CD-ROM Process Charge 1 50
2924 English 1 N/C
3410 CD-ROM 1 N/C
5005 Preinstall 1 N/C
5924 AIX 4.3 PII - English 1 N/C
9001 Asset Registration 1 N/C
=========
5692-AIX OTC 50
******************************* GRAND TOTALS
*******************************
Hardware Price 22250
Software OTC 50
=========
Grand Total 22300
Monthly Maintenance
281
Type of Repair: F = 7 days x 24 hours on-site repair/exchange
P = 5 days x 9 hours on-site repair/exchange
D = Depot service
N/C - No Charge
W/D - Withdrawn
T&M - Time and Material
N/O - Not Offered
N/A - Price Not Available
*** - Price Not Available
g - GSA Price
Steve Lawton
RS/6000 Advisory Sales Specialist
IBM Corporation
781-895-2878 -- T/L 362-2878 -- slawton@us.ibm.com
Jeff Banta
IBM Printing Systems Co.
404 Wyman St.
Waltham, Ma. 02454
8-362-2295 / 781-895-2295
mobile 617-513-5400
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