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Re: Discuss, Hesiod, Moira, & Athena are registered trademarks of MIT

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (bhatiani@jpmorgan.com)
Tue Sep 21 22:08:50 1993

From: bhatiani@jpmorgan.com
To: mlc@MIT.EDU (Mark Curby)
Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1993 22:01:39 -0400 (EDT)
Cc: dcns@MIT.EDU, acs@MIT.EDU, css@MIT.EDU, isdir@MIT.EDU, watchmakers@MIT.EDU,
In-Reply-To: <9309212214.AA09708@MIT.EDU> from "Mark Curby" at Sep 21, 93 06:14:55 pm


Speaking as somebody who has been involved in the implementation of DECathena
(agreed, a somewhat different beast) in a production environment for over
a year now, I think that there are some great benefits to be derived from
using Moira, Hesiod and Kerberos in a large heterogeneous environment.

What has been lacking from the MIT point of view is a strong endorsement of 
these tools. Ted Lemon is right in saying that there has been dead silence
from Cambridge about Athena. This is especially important because the 
so-called commercial products like Tivoli, OpenVision and CA-Unicenter are
woefully inadequate and poorly designed. 

A case in point is something as simple as dcm updates. These other products
do not have the concept, much less an implementation.

This leaves people like me having to defend tools that are far better than
anything else for managing large networks because they have not been given
the stamp of approval by MIT like for example has X.

I hope now that MIT has actually taken the trouble of registering these
names as trademarks, we will see more endorsements.

This is especially important since industry standards like DCE have endorsed
a far inferior product like Tivoli only because Athena does not have the
polish of a finished product in its freely available form.

One can buy DECathena from DEC, but the lack of source code is a big big
lose.

-- amit
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