[1829] in Moira
Re: strange list behavior
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Jeff Bigler)
Wed Jul 25 07:00:39 2001
Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2001 07:00:36 -0400 (EDT)
Message-Id: <200107251100.HAA17517@multics.mit.edu>
To: jweiss@mit.edu
CC: bug-moira@mit.edu
In-reply-to: <200107250656.CAA03134@the-other-woman.mit.edu> (message from
Jonathon Weiss on Wed, 25 Jul 2001 02:56:12 -0400)
From: Jeff Bigler <jcb@alum.mit.edu>
> From: Jonathon Weiss <jweiss@MIT.EDU>
> Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2001 02:56:12 -0400
> The problem appears to be that the aliases file entry for
> mitspo-request contains jcb, meaning the list jcb which contains no
> email-able addresses, but this is getting superceeded by the user jcb.
> Obviously, you want this superceeding to occur in general, because
> otherwise mail to jcb@mit.edu would go to the members of the moira
> list jcb (ie. no one.) Since the list jcb is set as 'not a mailing
> list' in moira we do consider it a bug that alias for mitspo-request
> contains jcb (rather than the members of the list jcb.) We even have
> code to fix this bug, but it requires a lot of testing, coordination,
> and some other work to prevent undesired consequences. Unfortunately,
> we haven't managed to complete this work, nor can I guess when we
> will.
>
> In the mean time, I suspect that renaming the list jcb to something
> else will correct the symptoms that you're seeing. If you decide to
> try this, I'd appreciate it if you could test it and confirm my
> belief, since it's based mostly on reading the code that generates the
> aliases file.
I'll try that.
Incidentally, the reason I have a list named jcb that's separate from
user jcb in the first place is from the days of Athena NFS. At that
time, each user was given an NFS group named the same thing as their
username. When Moira was created and Athena made the transition to AFS,
these NFS groups were also made AFS groups.
Am I correct in assuming that users are no longer automatically given an
AFS group list with the same name as their username? Certainly, if I
asked Accounts for a list called jcb, regardless of my intended use of
it, they'd probably (rightfully) reply "I don't think it's a good idea
to have a list with the same name as your username."
Could I be the only person who uses his/her same-name group/list in this
manner? (Or at least the only person who has done so, found this
particular bug, and reported it?)
Jeff
