[1141] in Moira
discrepancies between moira and mailservers for LIST:spelunkers
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Jeffrey C. Gilman Bigler)
Thu Dec 18 12:40:42 1997
Date: Thu, 18 Dec 97 12:40:22 -0500
To: bug-moira@MIT.EDU
Cc: spelunkers-request@MIT.EDU, spelunkers-acl@MIT.EDU
From: "Jeffrey C. Gilman Bigler" <jcb@MIT.EDU>
Reply-To: jcb@MIT.EDU
Somebody recently spammed the spelunkers list, and as a member of the
owner list (spelunkers-acl), I got a bunch of bounces from addresses
that were deleted quite a while ago. (The list normally gets maybe 2-3
messages a semester, so I hadn't seen these previously.)
I looked into this matter, and it appears that there are several
discrepancies between the spelunkers list according to moira and who
actually receives email sent to spelunkers@mit.edu:
% blanche -i spelunkers
List: spelunkers
Description: This is the mailing list of the MIT Caving Club. It was created (and is used for) keeping members of the MIT Caving Club informed of the club's activities.
Flags: active, public, and visible
spelunkers is a maillist and is not a group
Owner: LIST spelunkers-acl
Last modified by smfarrit with blanche on 17-dec-1997 23:09:28
The above shows that the list hasn't been modified since yesterday at
23:09:28. Assuming everything is behaving the way it should, the info
in moira should therefore be the same as the info the mailservers have.
% blanche spelunkers > /tmp/spelunkers-moira
% add consult
% expn spelunkers > /tmp/spelunkers-mailservers
I created an emacs macro to edit the expn output that I dumped into
/tmp/spelunkers-mailservers, changing lines of the form:
250-<string@REMOTEHOST.COM>
250-<localuser@PO8.LOCAL>
to lines of the form:
string@remotehost.com
localuser
and then I sorted the output. (You'll have to either trust me on this
one, or blanche and expn the two lists and see for yourself.)
Finally, I diff'ed the two lists:
% diff /tmp/spelunkers-moira /tmp/spelunkers-mailservers
7d6
< allena
11d9
< andre
13d10
< apae
18,19d14
< barkalow
< battleax
21d15
< beethovn
26d19
< bobmacke
32d24
< cadichia
41d32
< cyborg
48d38
< deucker
54,55d43
< dml-old
< dunnage
57d44
< eliot
59d45
< elwood
61,62d46
< eshamrat
< evanr
64d47
< ewilhelm
68d50
< franlew
70d51
< ghomsy
74d54
< grg
80d59
< houles
85d63
< ioannis
94d71
< jenlee
96d72
< jewell
98d73
< jhbrown
110,111d84
< jsheena
< jtt
115d87
< kerog
118d89
< kgajos
120d90
< kgreig
122d91
< kjacobs
133,134d101
< lohse
< loren
138,139d104
< marc
< mcharity
147,148d111
< mobius
< monkey
165,167d127
< petermc
< phireich
< probe
169d128
< reagle
187d145
< southsea
206d163
< wesommer
208d164
< wptucker
211d166
< zak
213c168
< LIST:dahl
---
> 100547.2626@compuserve.com
214a170,171
> alex@rubiconmgt.com
> allen@cmod2.pfc.mit.edu
216a174
> andre@ai.mit.edu
217a176,177
> barkalow@iabervon.mit.edu
> basch@lehman.com
218a179,180
> bcomiskey@mindspring.com
> cadichia@lcs.mit.edu
221a184
> dahl@ikos.com
223a187,189
> eks@alum.mit.edu
> evanr@netgravity.com
> ewilhelm@sub-zero.mit.edu
224a191
> ghomsy@theory.lcs.mit.edu
226a194
> grg@ai.mit.edu
227a196,197
> ike@isl.stanford.edu
> ipoulos@eng.delcoelect.com
228a199
> jewell@eddie.mit.edu
229a201,203
> jhbrown@ai.mit.edu
> jrandall@media.mit.edu
> kerog@draper.com
230a205,207
> kgajos@user1.channel1.com
> kjacobs@aesir.mit.edu
> kraken@mothership-connection.mit.edu
231a209,212
> lohse@sensable.com
> marc@cambridge.cygnus.com
> mcharity@lcs.mit.edu
> mobius@duct-tape.mit.edu
232a214,218
> noelle@harvard.net
> obi-wan@sub-zero.mit.edu
> p.reich@ic.ac.uk
> petermc@bourbaki.mit.edu
> reagle@rpcp.mit.edu
236a223
> sommerfeld@orchard.arlington.ma.us
If the moira update (and, indeed moira updates from months ago) had
happened as they should have, the above diff command should have
returned nothing.
So my questions are:
1) Can you figure out why the spelunkers list does not appear to be
taking updates from moira and fix the problem?
2) If yes, would you please do so?
Once the spelunkers list is again properly taking moira updates, I will
take the union of both lists and make that the spelunkers list. Then,
after waiting a day for the moira update, I will send mail to the list
explaining what happened and advising people who had previously removed
themselves or asked to be removed to please do so again.
Thanks in advance.
Jeff Bigler
