[119106] in Cypherpunks
No subject found in mail header
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (David Honig)
Fri Oct 15 05:28:34 1999
Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19991015015552.00828100@pop.sprynet.com>
Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1999 01:55:52 -0700
To: remailer@replay.com
From: David Honig <honig@sprynet.com>
Cc: cypherpunks@cyberpass.net
In-Reply-To: <199910142308.AAA00434@server.cypherspace.org>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Reply-To: David Honig <honig@sprynet.com>
::
Anon-to: cypherpunks@algebra.com
##
Subject: Ghandi's machine gun; ietfbi
At 12:08 AM 10/15/99 +0100, Adam Back wrote:
>[Cc: cypherpunks -- discussion of whether IETF should become involved
>in building tracing and tapping etc into protocols at:
>http://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/raven ]
>
>Let's talk about strategy and tactics.
A standards-making body competes for mindshare. If someone is making
tainted standards, others will form their own. Look at
the Sun vs. HP Java wars.
It would be a damn shame if the IETF lost credibility/control this way, but
he who lies with swine wakes with fleas,
and may find future partners unwilling to associate.
>What can the crypto hacker, protocol designer, policy wonk, and
>company executive do about this.
And if you were a pacificist drafted to design bombs (or else), what kind
of bomb would you build?
If you were a jew in a nazi munitions plant..
If you were a cisco coder with a new mortgage..
