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Re: [Raven] strategy in the GAK skirmish

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Paul Ferguson)
Thu Oct 14 20:54:42 1999

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Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 20:37:42 -0400
To: msaroff@pobox.com
From: Paul Ferguson <ferguson@cisco.com>
Cc: raven@ietf.org, cypherpunks@cyberpass.net
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Reply-To: Paul Ferguson <ferguson@cisco.com>

Well, I see that were only only able to make it for five
days before someone came  very close to proving Godwin's
Law of Nazi Analogies: As an online discussion grows longer,
the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler
approaches one.

  http://www.eff.org/pub/Net_culture/Folklore/Humor/godwins.law

- paul

At 06:29 PM 10/14/1999 -0500, Matthew Saroff wrote:

>         This is a gross mischaracterization of socialism, though not
>necessarily a mischaracterization of Facism.  The best examples of states
>tending towards socialism these days are the Scandanavian countries, and they
>also tend to be the most open in their law enforcement apparatus, as in the
>case of the Swedish open document laws.
>         The USSR was never socialism, it was the Tzars rule with some window
>dressing, just as China's "socialism" is actually Imperial China, as it has
>been for many years
>         Socialism is at it's core an economic point of view, not a 
> governmental
>one.
>         I'm not a socialist, just a left of centyer Democrat (to the right of
>Paul Wellstone though).
>         Sorry about picking nits, but it ticks me off.


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