[118940] in Cypherpunks
Re: IP: Net users must prepare for Big Brother (fwd)
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Jim Choate)
Sun Oct 10 21:42:03 1999
From: Jim Choate <ravage@einstein.ssz.com>
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Date: Sun, 10 Oct 1999 20:36:36 -0500 (CDT)
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----- Forwarded message from John Young -----
Date: Sun, 10 Oct 1999 19:19:53 -0400
From: John Young <jya@pipeline.com>
Subject: CDR: Re: IP: Net users must prepare for Big Brother (fwd)
What the G8 panickers are aiming for is a method to lay
claim to all the records and data of access points and ISPs
around the globe which may have been used as links in the
trail of a criminal action, not unlike the broadscope grounds
for seizure and forfeiture criticized here yesterday in testimony
by the Cato attorney.
...
As with forfeiture the ISP does not have to be guilty of a crime,
but the hopping data in its machines is evidence.
[ only *after* the actual crime. ]
...
----- End of forwarded message from John Young -----
So these governments are going to force every programmer on the planet to
write code a certain way, or include a particular library at a certain
point, etc.? How can that be? It violates the 1st. The US government can't
tell you to write a book. How do they propose to make operating systems like
Linux compliant? Are they seriously proposing to outlaw Open Source software?
And what about older non-compliant systems, is it going to become illegal to
use them? And just exactly *who* is paying for all this upgrading and hardware
replacement (I assume they'll want the routers doing it also)? I wonder how
the British are going to feel with the French and Germans pawing around their
networks by asking the Swiss, and visa versa?
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