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Re: IP: Net users must prepare for Big Brother (fwd)

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Jim Choate)
Sun Oct 10 21:34:50 1999

From: Jim Choate <ravage@einstein.ssz.com>
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Date: Sun, 10 Oct 1999 20:28:05 -0500 (CDT)
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----- Forwarded message from John Young -----

Date: Sun, 10 Oct 1999 19:19:53 -0400
From: John Young <jya@pipeline.com>
Subject: CDR: Re: IP: Net users must prepare for Big Brother (fwd)

What the G8 panickers are aiming for is a method to lay
claim to all the records and data of access points and ISPs 
around the globe which may have been used as links in the
trail of a criminal action, not unlike the broadscope grounds 
for seizure and forfeiture criticized here yesterday in testimony
by the Cato attorney.

...

As with forfeiture the ISP does not have to be guilty of a crime, 
but the hopping data in its machines is evidence. 

[ only *after* the actual crime. ]

...

----- End of forwarded message from John Young -----


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