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Re: Build a better OTP?

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Bill Stewart)
Fri Sep 10 04:26:51 1999

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Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 01:10:09 -0700
To: Anonymous <nobody@replay.com>, cypherpunks@cyberpass.net
From: Bill Stewart <bill.stewart@pobox.com>
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Reply-To: Bill Stewart <bill.stewart@pobox.com>

At 08:24 PM 9/9/99 +0200, Anonymous wrote:
>>   >> [...RNG whitening code...]
>>   > Well, putting it on the chip sure ain't the right place.

>The RNG currently consists of two thermal resistors, two oscillators,
>and the simple state machine to detect 1-0 and 0-1 transitions.  The
	[SHA big]
>In the face of these engineering realities, what is the argument for
>putting the whitening on the chip?  It is fundamentally ideological.

There are two separate decisions -
1) whether to do whitening on the chip
2) whether to allow access to the Raw Bits as well

The reason for 1) is straightforward - if you don't put the
whitening on the chip, clueless users will fail to do it themselves,
and people will blame Intel that their gambling programs and
crypto systems and fuzzy-logic stock market predictors work badly,
and they'll blame Intel for collaborating with the NSA by
providing bad randomness.

On the other hand, 2) is bad - some people really want access
to the raw bits, and it shouldn't take much resources to provide it.

				Thanks! 
					Bill
Bill Stewart, bill.stewart@pobox.com
PGP Fingerprint D454 E202 CBC8 40BF  3C85 B884 0ABE 4639


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