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Re: a wee bit o' ultraparanoia (http://www.inet-one.com/cypherpunks/current/msg0028
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Gary Jeffers)
Fri Aug 27 03:33:49 1999
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Date: Friday, August 27, 1999 12:05 AM
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>> This makes verifying the binaries a SERIOUSLY non-trivial=20
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>>them byte by byte, and then you STILL may miss a clever compromise.
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>The fact that it is not trivial is NOT a reason. Somebody with the =
energy,=20
Nobody, here, seems to have a great post. I can't understand the details =
and probably few others can - Unless they are computer engineers. I =
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interrogate:
Gents,
if you have a bit-carrier which is trusted (e.g., a floppy or an iButton
ring) then you can
what's an iButton ring?
verify other pieces of code, and bootstrap yourself into a fully =
verified OS.
The military trusts their suppliers, and enforces strict discipline over =
ownership chains. Mere businessfolk buy COTS and use the =
physically-separate=20
bitcarrier PK verification technique.
What are COTS and what is a PK verification technique?
If you don't trust prefabbed hardware, buy a PLD and configure your own.
What's a PLD?
.....
If the device which encrypts is with you all the time, its very hard to
mess with it. Think Moore's law. PalmDogTag? Woof.
.....
Michael Faraday and his newborne babes are your friends.
Note: The above may help with defense against malice software, but could =
it help
defend against malice hardware?
I realize that my questions are unworthy, but Worthly people have not =
yet implemented
technologies that make me feel that the State is stopped from computer =
tyranny.
Yours Truly,
Gary Jeffers
BEAT STATE!!!
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compromise.
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energy, </PRE><PRE>
Nobody, here, seems to have a great post. I can't understand the details =
</PRE><PRE>and probably few others can - Unless they are computer =
engineers. I shall </PRE><PRE>interrogate:</PRE><PRE>
Gents,
if you have a bit-carrier which is trusted (e.g., a floppy or an iButton
ring) then you can</PRE><PRE>what's an iButton ring?</PRE><PRE>
verify other pieces of code, and bootstrap yourself into a fully =
verified OS.
The military trusts their suppliers, and enforces strict discipline over =
ownership chains. Mere businessfolk buy COTS and use the =
physically-separate=20
bitcarrier PK verification technique.
</PRE><PRE>What are COTS and what is a PK verification =
technique?</PRE><PRE>
If you don't trust prefabbed hardware, buy a PLD and configure your =
own.</PRE><PRE>
What's a PLD?
.....
If the device which encrypts is with you all the time, its very hard to
mess with it. Think Moore's law. PalmDogTag? Woof.
.....
Michael Faraday and his newborne babes are your friends.
</PRE><PRE>Note: The above may help with defense against malice =
software, but could it help</PRE><PRE>defend against malice =
hardware?</PRE><PRE>
I realize that my questions are unworthy, but Worthly people have not =
yet implemented</PRE><PRE>technologies that make me feel that the State =
is stopped from computer tyranny.
Yours Truly,</PRE><PRE>Gary Jeffers</PRE><PRE>BEAT STATE!!!
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