[9719] in Commercialization & Privatization of the Internet
Re: AUPs and Connectivity
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Rick Adams)
Tue Jan 18 00:56:56 1994
From: rick@uunet.uu.net (Rick Adams)
To: ms6b+@andrew.cmu.edu (Marvin Sirbu)
Date: Tue, 18 Jan 1994 00:49:44 -0500 (EST)
Cc: com-priv@psi.com
In-Reply-To: <ghBouw600VAD86YTRM@andrew.cmu.edu> from "Marvin Sirbu" at Jan 14, 94 09:02:36 pm
Date: Fri, 14 Jan 1994 21:02:36 -0500 (EST)
From: Marvin Sirbu <ms6b+@andrew.cmu.edu>
To: com-priv@psi.com, rick@uunet.UU.NET (Rick Adams)
Subject: Re: AUPs and Connectivity
Excerpts from internet.com-priv: 14-Jan-94 Re: AUPs and Connectivity by
Rick Adams@uunet.uu.net
> There's more bandwidth available commercially that your failed experiment
> (Hell, its only been T3 for less than a month, yet you never complained.
> That's reckless.)
Are you saying that if ANS were to cease providing service on May 1 that
the commercial networks have enough excess capacity to handle the 10
terabytes of traffic that the NSFNet handled in December 1993? I wasn't
aware that there was this much excess capacity in the commercial
networks.
yes, absolutely. No problems. My network ALONE has the capacity. The
commercial providers combined have an order of magnitude more than necessary.
It baffles me why people think that T3 is a big deal. IT's boring off the
shelf technology.
Counting terabytes is so much semantic nonsense. It makes cute meaningless
graphs, But is totally meaningless. What counts is sustained data rates.
10 terrabytes per month is not a big deal. 10 terrabytes per hour is impressive.
What are the 95% confidence intervals for bandwidth used?
Remember how long they passed off the "T1 Safety net" as a big deal.
Now either the T1 net was able to handle the traffic or it was a major fraud.
(Or both!)
Since I have never seen packet and byte count statistics for the
commercial networks comparable to what is published every month by Merit
for NSFNET it is hard to become aware of the aggregate capacity
available from the commerical providers. What information source do you
rely on for your assertion above?
I'm running on a real T3 based network TODAY. By definition, a T3 network
can replace the half T3 network that ANS has been using to provide that
"amazing" 10 terrabytes. By the way, whats that in bits per second? I've been
asking for MEANINGFUL data for 3 years. They dont seem to have it.
It does seem to impress the political types though. (Are you a political type?)
