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"Sneaky" access to a T1?

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Tansin A. Darcos & Company)
Fri Nov 12 22:05:26 1993

Date: Fri, 12 Nov 1993 21:48:45 -0500 (EST)
From: "Tansin A. Darcos & Company" <0005066432@mcimail.com>
Reply-To: "Tansin A. Darcos & Company" <0005066432@mcimail.com>
To: Doug Humprey <digex@access.digex.net>, com-priv@psi.com

>From: Paul Robinson <TDARCOS@MCIMAIL.COM>
Organization: Tansin A. Darcos & Company, Silver Spring, MD USA
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> >Doug, as I said in my other postings many people have tried to get 
> >a great connection to ANS and have been turned down.
> 
> Sorry to hear that.  I have never found a shortage of firms wanting
> to sell me a T1 into the net.  SURA talked with us at great length,
> Alternet would have sold it to us, PSI had some great deals, and
> ANS was here selling hard to get the business.  All in all,
> shopping for a T1 was an enjoyable experience!  I got to visit a
> LOT of NOCs....  
> 
> In short, I guess that I never considered it some sort of privledge
> to be connected via ANS, just that they are another vendor selling 
> their stuff.  

I'll go along with Doug on this one (and not just because I am a customer
of his :) as well) but because I did something similar to this about two
years ago.

I was trying to find out what an Internet connection would cost.  I didn't
check that many places, but the gist was that UUNET would sell dial up
access for $30 plus $3 an hour.

The University of Maryland (SURANET) would sell me a 56K pipe and a Cisco
router on a special deal for $8,000 a year, I would own the router and the
next year the cost drops to something like $6,000 a year.  This would
include the phone company charge anywhere in the Washington DC area (which
I checked at the same time; C&P Telephone would charge $120 a month for a
56K data line, plus $1 per 1/4 mile from end to end, e.g. a 5 mile drop
would cost $120 a month plus $20 in wire charges. 

These were the only two I checked, as this price was totally outside the
budget for what I was looking for, e.g. something akin to a simple,
inexpensive means to send mail and read and respond to news, e.g. a $20/20
service, or something like Digital Express which offers 6 hours a day of
full Internet access for $25 a month. 

Doug, did you get the nice packet SURANET gives out?  It shows who is on
their network and had some copies of some articles, in a nice purple
folder. 

If they would sell a 56K pipe, I can't see why they wouldn't sell someone
a T1 if they have the capacity.  

And I have to add that seeing the difference between the two (56K to 1.4M)
is absolutely amazing.  I can't take naps while doing FTP downloads
anymore. :)  When you get 85K/Sec transfer rates, only the very largest of
files will allow you to do that. 

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