[345] in Commercialization & Privatization of the Internet
Re: Implicit Assumptions Crystalizing for the NREN
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (martyne@walt.tn.cornell.edu)
Mon Mar 11 18:47:48 1991
Date: Wed, 27 Feb 91 21:07:20 -0500
From: martyne@walt.tn.cornell.edu
To: schoff@psi.com
Cc: com-priv@psi.com, members@farnet.org, nettf@devvax.TN.CORNELL.EDU
Marty, You write:
Following/Expanding on the original thesis there is an implicit
bias towards giga-bits-for-a-few (Big Science under a different
name), removing the E from the NREN, and a form of getting the
cart before the horse. Attached is a representative public
posting, though there are better private ones, that hints at
some of this.
Here we have two of the biggest and best that the US has to
offer in Big Science providing recommendations to NSF for
the NREN
- why isn't EDUCOM participating in this, balancing the E portion
of the NREN and definitely influencing the "implementation".
- where will the input come from the small users of the world such
as Skidmore (a small upstate NY liberal arts college), certainly
not at IETF, so when are the forums going to be announced
so that they can participate.
Let me suggest at least two possible forums:
FARNET - the regional networks which participate in this organization
have as members these small users of the world.. and there
are more and "smaller" users coming into the Internet world.
In this "smaller" should not necessarily mean smaller as in
numbers of people, though that may be the case, but smaller
in terms of amount of financial and technical resources with
which to support a network connection... I am thinking of
k-12 users, community colleges, small companies
SIGUCCS - for those of you who do not recognize this particular
acronym, SIGUCCS is the ACM Special Interest Group for
University and College Computing Services. The members
are international, are from both very large, very small and
in between size academic institutions. A Networking
Taskforce has been formed to act as an advocate for the
SIGUCCS membership in the area of national internetworking.
As chairman of this taskforce, I think is truly represents,
of not the actual users of the network, then that group
of people who are responsible for offering services to
the researchers, educators, and students that use NSFNet and
associated networks.
One of the goals of the Siguccs Networking Taskforce is to work
with other organizations such as IETF so make sure that the activities
of each will compliment each other.
- Was there every any really sponsored survey/assessement that
was done to represent the E & R communnities, from some
independant organization, (maybe from the gartner group),
or are we going to leap directly into engineering and
implementation. [Has your state's department of Ed
been polled at least?].
Marty
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Subject: Two Announcements -- IETF meeting in St. Louis
Date: Tue, 26 Feb 91 17:07:57 -0500
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Two Announcments regarding the upcoming IETF meeting in St. Louis:
1) We are pleased to have scheduled a presentation on early planning
toward the National Research and Education Network (NREN). The
session will be on Tuesday afternoon, March 12th. The title and
abstract are below.
Preliminary Architecture Considerations for the Interim Interagency
National Research and Education Network (NREN)
Abstract
The National Science Foundation has asked both the Los Alamos National
Laboratory and Lawrence Berkeley Laboratory to provide technical
recommendations concerning the architecture and implementation of the
Interim Interagency NREN, providing service to the national education
and research communities. Both LANL and LBL would like to invite the
IETF community and its represented interests to discuss the major
high-level issues and provide input into this challenging process.
Issues such as network architecture, user requirements, scaling,
robustness, service assurances, decentralized control and operations,
and technology prediction will be presented and discussed in light of
preliminary requirements synthesis.
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