[2562] in Commercialization & Privatization of the Internet
Re: access to world.std.com from the Univ of Michigan
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Sean Donelan)
Mon Mar 16 17:43:09 1992
Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1992 16:38:49 -0600 (CST)
From: SEAN@SDG.DRA.COM (Sean Donelan)
To: com-priv@psi.com, alison@oar.net
X-Vmsmail-To: SMTP%"com-priv@psi.com",SMTP%"alison@oar.net"
>D_____N it!!! Some of the regionals, and OARnet is one, are making
>choices about who to join based not on ideology, but on economics.
>I've got a big hub in Cleveland and so does ANS. You are telling me
>I should run a T1 line all the way to the West Coast in order to
>get interconnected to the CIX????? Get serious!! ANS should get
>interconnected with the CIX, and the CIX should get interconnected
>with ANS. Redundancy is nice, but cost-effective is a greater god.
>And "access to commercial services" is in the eyes of the beholder.
Huh? economics? There are lines between the ANS hub in St. Louis to
Lincoln, NE (MIDNET) and then back to St. Louis (Wash. U.) again, three
hundred-plus miles each way. Of course T-3 hasn't been operational, so
MIDNET is still using the T-1 backbone, so add in a lot more miles
of T-1 lines to go with the T-3. This makes economic sense????
Is the decision being swayed swayed because a funding agency will pay for
only lines connecting to a particular network backbone provider? At the
MIDNET meeting the choice of accepting commercial ANS traffic was presented
as a "no-cost" option since NSF pays for all the lines to the ANS hub.
The question is
Would OARNET connect to the CIX if NSF paid for the line?
Of course you don't have to go all the way to California to get to peer
with the CIX anymore than you have to put in a line to FIX-east or FIX-west
to peer with the other agency networks. Most of the other network vendors
have POPs around the country that may be as close. I think PSI had a
proposal where MIDNET would connect to a PSI pop in the midwest, and route
across PSI's frame relay network to the CIX (at some cost).
P.S. DRA isn't a network vendor, but we have alternative connections to
nodes in Cleveland and Boston so, in theory, you could get to world.std.com
from cleveland right now.
OARNET->DRANET->NEARNET->Alternet->world.std.com
Of course you'd have to get the proper authorization from all the parties
concerned before letting the packets fly. But I just tried it, and got
a login prompt (I don't have an account on world.std.com).
Of course CompuServe is also an Alternet customer, and in Ohio, so you might
be able to simplify the connection to
OARNET->CIS->Alternet->world.std.com
--
Sean Donelan, Data Research Associates, Inc, St. Louis, MO
Domain: sean@sdg.dra.com, Voice: (Work) +1 314-432-1100
