[2561] in Commercialization & Privatization of the Internet

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daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Barry Shein)
Mon Mar 16 16:21:46 1992

Date: Mon, 16 Mar 92 16:20:35 -0500
From: bzs@world.std.com (Barry Shein)
To: alison@oar.net
Cc: drw@BOURBAKI.MIT.EDU, com-priv@psi.com
In-Reply-To: alison@oar.net's message of Mon, 16 Mar 92 15:15:55 -0500 <9203162015.AA02420@thor.oar.net>


>From: alison@oar.net
>I should run a T1 line all the way to the West Coast in order to
>get interconnected to the CIX?

I would be surprised if CIX stipulated that the only way for OARnet to
get connected is by running a wire to the West Coast, but perhaps
that's true, or a preliminary answer. Did this come out of discussion
with them? Or just implication? It was specific enough that I believe
you if you say discussion. Perhaps that needs to be said.

I assume someone from CIX will respond at this point.

I agree that ANS connecting to CIX is a possible way to resolve some
problems, but I also assume there are other assumptions in that (e.g.
that they will provide that additional service without cost for
pass-through.)

>And "access to commercial services" is in the eyes of the beholder. 

I don't know what this means, except in the most superficial sense
(i.e. I understand the words.)

Something much harder to understand is what I would call "the
computing center syndrome", and I have no idea on this particular
case, but I will make a general comment and don't take it as
necessarily relevant to you, just a convenient place to say this:

	"I <admin> don't need <that> so I will assert that my
	<customers/users> don't need it either."

This conversation did all start over end-users being frustrated over
the bifurcations, right? (Not necessarily your end-users, but we must
talk to the general issue even if you are an exception.)

Flame away.

        -Barry Shein

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