[2539] in Commercialization & Privatization of the Internet

home help back first fref pref prev next nref lref last post

Re: Trust and the T-3 Network

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Christopher Davis)
Sat Mar 14 20:35:59 1992

Date: Sat, 14 Mar 1992 20:28:10 -0500
From: Christopher Davis <ckd@eff.org>
To: peter@goshawk.lanl.gov
Cc: com-priv@uu.psi.com
In-Reply-To: peter@goshawk.lanl.gov's message of Sat, 14 Mar 1992 13:05:57 GMT

[DISCLAIMER: these are my personal opinions only and are not the
official opinions of the Electronic Frontier Foundation unless Mitch, or
someone else in a more official position than I, says so.]

>> == Peter Ford <peter@goshawk.lanl.gov> 

 >> From your comments to date, it appears to me that you consider the
 >> operation of the NSFnet as a trivial undertaking and that it can be
 >> switched to any technology base in no time.  Unfortunately it is not
 >> that simple, NSFnet plays a very special role inside the global
 >> Internet and it is far more than simply a 16 node network.  I am
 >> sure the Merit staff can explain all of this to you while you are
 >> out there.

I think Gordon (and some of the rest of us) are more concerned with
whether the network is truly a 16 node network, or an eight node
network[*], or a two node network.  We're told it's a 16 node network,
but is it?

 >> they have done a pretty good job in pushing things ahead.  They have 
 >> kept the global Internet wired together so far

As long as you're not sending impure commercial bits, in which case
you're out of luck.

Personal experience department:  I recently had to "indirectly" ftp a
file because the T1 NSFNET was having problems between College Park and
Ithaca.  I had to use a NEARNET site as a stepping-stone, because the T1
was losing packets faster than a DevNull 666 router...

...and it reminded me of the early days of the T3.  Teething problems
are all well and good, but if I hear "fully operational" and see packet
loss, I start to wonder.

Christopher Davis <ckd@eff.org> |    INTERESTING DEFINITIONS DEPARTMENT:
System Manager & Postmaster     |  "An editor comes with a guarantee and a
Electronic Frontier Foundation  |    toll free customer service number."
+1 617 864 0665  NIC: [CKD1]    |  -P. Hallam-Baker <hallam@zws009.desy.de>

home help back first fref pref prev next nref lref last post