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Charging for low-end services

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Brian Lloyd)
Fri Jan 31 01:19:07 1992

Date: Thu, 30 Jan 92 22:16:56 PST
From: brian@lloyd.com (Brian Lloyd)
To: matsb@sics.se
Cc: com-priv@psi.com
In-Reply-To: matsb@sics.se's message of Thu, 30 Jan 92 09:58:44 +0100 <9201300858.AA24853@asia.sics.se>
Reply-To: brian@lloyd.com

   Date: Thu, 30 Jan 92 09:58:44 +0100
   From: matsb@sics.se

   What about if the site gets a full load of trash mail shipped to them?
   Should they pay usage for this too?

   What about if they get a request to their "directory service" to give
   a lot of info? The request may be a couple of packets, but the result
   will be a set of files?

That is an unlikely scenario if you are using an inbound-only dial-up
service.  In that case you are connected only when you need the
service.  The rest of the network cannot reach you on demand so you
are unlikely to provide servers for others to use.  In that case it is
a moot point and your example fails.

   Of course the customers/users should be able to decide on what model
   for payment they should use, and the providers should get a reasonable
   return on investment, but beware of the "Pubic X.25 trauma" - open
   ended costs, and even worse: if your network is congested, or if the
   service end-to-end is bad, you will see retries and retransmissions, THAT
   YOU PAY FOR!

You seem to think that I recommend that all connectivity be on-demand.
I am not.  I simply stated that 1) I believe that there is a place for
usage-based charging, and 2) that I applaud CERFNet for offering such
a service.  As someone who is active in trying to make this technology
work I am interested in what they have learned from their service.

There will always be a place for dedicated service.  Eventually
traffic levels reach the point where dedicated service makes sense.
For instance, the traffic level into my office has increased to the
point that I have ordered dedicated 56Kbps service from BARRNet.  It
simply doesn't make sense for me to continue with dial-up service.

And shouldn't "Pubic X.25 trauma" be discussed in
alt.sex.kinky-datacom or something?  :-) :-)

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